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1581  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Sell a Casino Script | 27 Unique Games | 100 Slot Games on: March 02, 2023, 01:01:08 PM
Is this your own script? Did anyone audit this script? Do you have any public recognition for the authenticity? How do we know this script isn't full of bugs or malicious intent? This post is a reminder to everyone that trust is ok but here we would like some verification before we trust you.

Have you sold scripts before? If not why start now?

Whenever a newbie opens this kind of script selling thread, they always want to "continue talking" on Telegram. Seems strange to me.
1582  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin's age of legal competence on: March 02, 2023, 12:41:25 PM
In my country (Germany) it is not legal to do business with children in the age 0 to 18.

From 0 to 7 it is forbidden, and from 7 to 18 there are some minor differences, But overall and away from everyday life things, in Germany it is not allowed to sell children (age 11, 12, 13) and young people (age 14, 15) bigger things. For example, if I want to sell a television set to a 13 years old person, it is not allowed and I have to give back the money the 13 years old was paying me for the TV set.

In the case a 13 year old is selling me something with Bitcoin, it is easy to handle. I get the TV set back (from my example) back, and I have to pay back the Bitcoin or the money therefor (at the market price).

But my question or my reason to discuss:

If a 13 year old children is mining BTC this is not allowed in Germany. The question of the hour is, not just for Bitcoin - for all POW coins: How to protect chuldren from mining coins? Is there a statistic about how many coins (BTC) were mined by children or persons under 18 years? And how to compensate this unlawful behavior?

Is there a mining protection for children on the Bitcoin core?



its impossible to stop children from mining Bitcoin as that would have to fall under the responsibility of the parents. And lets face it, most parents are not responsible. One thing that the government can do (And does) is reinforce KYC (Know-Your-Customer) identity checks. But that otherwise pointless identity check will not stop the child from selling its Bitcoin. It could sell it in many various ways which the government cannot see or control. It could trade in the coin for an item. So it does not have to be limited to fiat.

So fortunately, these kids will learn the struggle of obtaining Bitcoin and the pain of losing them. If you ask me, I think its best to let life teach them how to handle money.
Every mistake is an educational fee.
1583  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: SEC Chair Gensler confirms "everything other than Bitcoin is a security" on: March 02, 2023, 12:34:09 PM
This is a political issue. The SEC will regulate the entire crypto market, and they do not need bitcoin, because it is possible that bitcoin will have problems. There are a lot of reasons for this, from large consumption of electricity to a threat to national security.
Sometimes even I do not understand how many Chinese, Korean, Russian and other companies first try to comply with the norms of the SEC and then the laws of their countries.

How exactly is the SEC going to regulate the entire crypto market? Do you really believe that that is somehow possible? What about DeFi? How is SEC going to deal with that, or the cryptos which are already considered securities by the SEC itself? I am not going to worry about the SEC. Nothing but hot air and empty threats. They only go after centralized businesses, if they can. Everything else is unenforceable as with current laws.

Enforcing laws fully against crypto would take a global dictatorship. Nothing less.
1584  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2023, 09:11:32 AM

Its not about keeping the WO free of shitposts (an impossible and unnecessary task). Its about teaching the value of self-respect and encouraging others to better themselves rather than take the lazy route.

By rewarding merit farmers, you are teaching them that making a living through bullshitting and sucking up pays off. You actively contribute to their inability to grow as a human being.

+10 WOsMerit


But the money coming in is government pensions.


1 win for me.

I would not call government pensions a win. for example, Ukraine denied their Donbass and Crimean citizens their pensions unless they moved to a part of the country which was not controlled by the Russia-supported Ukrainian rebels (AKA land which is controlled by the current government and those who support it) 8 years ago. Absolutely abandoned old/sick people to fend for themselves or die.

Those people lived in the wrong place at the wrong time and the government denied them their rightfully earned money.

So having your money taken hostage by your government is obviously not a win. No matter how good you think your government is.
1585  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Welche Kryptobörse on: March 01, 2023, 11:43:00 AM
Auf jeden Fall ist eine europäische oder sogar deutsche Börse am sichersten (rechtlich gesehen). Also Bitstamp Kraken z.B.

Was meinst du mit "rechtlich gesehen"?
~snip

Ich meine damit dass falls du dich jemals in einem rechtlichen Streit mit einer Krypto Börse befindest, egal um was es geht, so wärst du bei einer deutschen Börse sicher, dass sie sich an dir bereits bekannte Gesetze halten muss. Darüber hinaus wäre es auch kein Problem für den Rechtsstreit einen Anwalt zu finden. Bei ausländischen Börsen wirst du es echt schwer (und teuer) haben, dafür einen geeigneten Anwalt zu finden. Also bei kleineren Geldsummen macht sich da keiner die Mühe. Vor allem in Ländern die viel mit Korruption am hut haben, beißt du dir an deinen Klagen die Zähne raus.

Okay. Danke für deine Rückmeldung. Hatte mir auch schon gedacht, dass du das mit rechtlich gesehen meintest. Aber war mir halt nicht sicher, ob ich richtig gedacht hatte.  Wink

Problem ist natürlich, dass es eigentlich keine richtige Börse in Deutschland gibt. Interessant wird es aber werden, sobald ausländische registrierte Dienstleister mit eine BAfin-Kryptoverwahrlizenz verklagt werden. Dann ist wahrscheinlich der Gerichtsstand auch nicht Deutschland.

Gerne. t'schuldigum dass es erstmal ein paar Jahre gedauert hat. :'D

Ich habe auch bei einer deutschen Börse- Bitcoin.de nachgefragt wie es bei denen rechtlich ausschaut. Alle umgehen eine BaFin Erlaubnis dank eines geregelten bankaufsichtsrechtlichen Loopholes (Ausnahmetatbestand).

Der Begriff heißt Haftungsdach und vorausgesetzt wird eine Börse-Bank Partnerschaft. Wie Bitcoin.de mit Fidor Bank.

Aber bei einer Klage weiß ich auch nicht wie das Ganze aussehen könnte. Aber ich denke, Gerichtsstand wäre Deutschland.
1586  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽🎮🎲 Coinplay.com | Brand New Crypto Sportsbook & Casino on: March 01, 2023, 11:33:30 AM
First when casino advertise in this forum, it does not get exposed to only forum members alone, but also other visitors to the forum will also get to notice them also and and getting wider visibility enhances the casino traffic generation and potential revenue increase.
so it makes sense that casinos decide to advertise here as they hope to reach not only those that are part of the forum but all of those that may visit it once in a while.

I have different theories regarding the reason why casinos like to advertise on this forum.

Perhaps they think that anyone willing to invest into cryptocurrencies would be a person who is risky in nature and therefore would make a good gambling cash-cow? I think that might be correct, but only from a certain part of the community. A lot of us understand crypto is not gambling but rather it can be used for gambling. Those are two different things and they should be respected individually as such.

Or perhaps gambling was just one of the very first adopters of cryptocurrency and blockchain, and we as a community have therefore accepted it into our culture for this very reason?

It is really a bit hard to tell without extensive research.
I also believe so, the gambling market has become one of the highest markets for cryptocurrency and ever since the creation of the first coin in 2009 the phase of payment to the online casino has changed and they have widely adopted cryptocurrency since bitcointalk has been the first and only original bitcoin discussion forum, all services that use Bitcoin will like to have a long term promotion here in the forum.
One of the factors behind the rapid development of crypto casinos is the desire of a gambler to remain anonymous. KYC is not required when it joins crypto casino. Deposits may be complicated in fiat gambling sites but in crypto casinos a gambler is able to conduct gambling activities by making quick deposits without any hassles. I personally handled gambling at Bet365. But I had to face a lot of problems to deposit and withdraw ‍on that site. But I haven't gambled at any other fiat currency supported casino since I made my first deposit at Crypto Casino platform. Day by day its scope will be expanded.

Anonymity is not the same thing as privacy. You do not get to be anonymous by any government standard. Because being anonymous means you get to dodge responsibility when you do something wrong. Privacy is the right not to divulge anything about yourself that you wish not to divulge.

No legitimate Casino in this world is going to help you be anonymous. They have regulators breathing down their necks and looking at their hands at all times. Casinos have a duty to weed out bad actors like money launderers, scammers, terrorists and so on.

Just because the KYC is not demanded when you register an account does not mean you will not have to give your KYC on demand, later.

In fact, every legit casino which does not demand KYC on registration mentions this in their Terms Of Service.
1587  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2023, 08:45:43 AM
...

I will be having some vodka tonight.

May as well.  Vodka, potatoes, carbs.. what difference does it make...  




Its got mint and limes in it. How is that vodka? Put the limes back in your purse and drink it pure like a man (who hodls BTC). Tongue
1588  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: Welche Kryptobörse on: March 01, 2023, 08:27:28 AM
Auf jeden Fall ist eine europäische oder sogar deutsche Börse am sichersten (rechtlich gesehen). Also Bitstamp Kraken z.B.

Was meinst du mit "rechtlich gesehen"?
"Rechtlich gesehen" sollte es vollkommen egal sein ob die Börse in Europa, USA oder Asien betrieben wird.

Wo man aber definitiv Probleme bekommen könnte ist bei der Auszahlung in FIAT und der Überweisung von einer ausländischen Börse. Dort wird die Bank mit großer Wahrscheinlichkeit nachhaken wenn bspw. 10k aus Taiwan auf deinem Konto landen, du zuvor aber niemals Zahlungsverkehr mit Taiwan hattest. Das ist aber generell bei ausländischen Börsen oder abweichenden Beträgen (also Beträgen über deiner normalen Überweisungstätigkeit) so, zumindest im Hintergrund finden hier immer Checks statt.

Ich meine damit dass falls du dich jemals in einem rechtlichen Streit mit einer Krypto Börse befindest, egal um was es geht, so wärst du bei einer deutschen Börse sicher, dass sie sich an dir bereits bekannte Gesetze halten muss. Darüber hinaus wäre es auch kein Problem für den Rechtsstreit einen Anwalt zu finden. Bei ausländischen Börsen wirst du es echt schwer (und teuer) haben, dafür einen geeigneten Anwalt zu finden. Also bei kleineren Geldsummen macht sich da keiner die Mühe. Vor allem in Ländern die viel mit Korruption am hut haben, beißt du dir an deinen Klagen die Zähne raus.
1589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Shuichiro Yoshino April 8 on: February 28, 2023, 06:38:13 PM
^^ I would agree, decent to good opponent for Shakur but I doubt that he can upset Stevenson at this point. So I will have to put Shakur here winning maybe by a knockout or complete domination of the fight.

No offense to the Japanese fighter, he had the belt in Asia, beat Nakatani who gave Teo Lopez all he can handle and also fought Loma in his comeback fight. But that is not enough resume to beat the likes of Shakur right now.

Shuichiro Yoshino is an impressive boxer and I do not doubt that he will give Shakur Stevenson a good fight and maybe even make Shakur sweat nervously a bit. But there is no denying that Shakur is going to be the winner of this upcoming match. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. That is just how good Shakur is. Yoshino is a promising boxer but he does not have the necessary skills and experience to fight against the big dogs.
1590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the IMF Qualms With Regulating/ Banning Bitcoin? on: February 28, 2023, 01:16:44 PM
I think the IMF was not ready for Bitcoin and did not expect Bitcoin/other cryptocurrencies to become such a gigantic movement. They were not ready to implement anything which would go outside the current fiat regulatory framework and they are now playing for time while they figure out how to deeper regulate cryptocurrency. And the truth is they have no idea how to and are starting to become desperate.

I doubt that they will find a way to regulate Bitcoin effectively. Perhaps they have realized that and are now hoping on the introduction of CBDCs as some sort of alternative.
1591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin weaken the Wests ability to fight enemies of freedom? on: February 28, 2023, 01:08:41 PM
Sanctions should not be used as weapons, like the US is doing. Sanctions should have a preventative effect not a destructive, coercive one.

We know what weaponized sanctions do. Just like at what happened to Germany before WW2. In fact I would go as far as to say sanctions were the main cause of WW2. Had the Germans not been bled dry and left to their doom, then they may have not followed a maniac who wanted to exact revenge on those exact people and steal what he considered rightfully theirs.

And Bitcoin cannot be used to overcome sanctions that easily. In fact, Fiat is way more useful in money laundering and sanction evading because its not on a public ledger, unlike Bitcoin. Nobody knows where Fiat goes.
1592  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽🎮🎲 Coinplay.com | Brand New Crypto Sportsbook & Casino on: February 28, 2023, 01:01:03 PM
so it makes sense that casinos decide to advertise here as they hope to reach not only those that are part of the forum but all of those that may visit it once in a while.

I have different theories regarding the reason why casinos like to advertise on this forum.

Perhaps they think that anyone willing to invest into cryptocurrencies would be a person who is risky in nature and therefore would make a good gambling cash-cow? I think that might be correct, but only from a certain part of the community. A lot of us understand crypto is not gambling but rather it can be used for gambling. Those are two different things and they should be respected individually as such.

Or perhaps gambling was just one of the very first adopters of cryptocurrency and blockchain, and we as a community have therefore accepted it into our culture for this very reason?

It is really a bit hard to tell without extensive research.
The second reason you give makes way more sense to me, if you were to ask me which is the most profitable business we have in this market then I would say exchanges take the top spot with ease, but when it comes to the second kind of business which makes the most profits I will say casinos take that spot, casinos and cryptocurrencies make a winning combination, and even if we cannot enjoy as much privacy as we did on the early days I still think the overall experience is better than the experience you can get with fiat casinos.

Now that you say that, I would also have to agree with the second scenario in which casinos and cryptocurrencies have gone hand in hand since their inception. I am not sure if this reflects positively on the cryptocurrency community nor the gambling community but I guess one of the good things is that crypto has added value thanks to all the online crypto casinos.

It also seems to explain why the exchanges are using marketing tactics which are usually native to casinos.
1593  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2023, 09:31:03 AM
Think i'm gunna sell some corn at $30k if we ever get there again (*dramatic couch fainting*)

Gunna buy a tractor. Maybe some chickens. Maybe a Browning .50 Cal (not for the chickens)

Gotta convert some of this corn into meatspace currency... so I can grow meat... and eggs... real actual live corn mebbe...

Spring soon.

Getting excited. Barn is coming along nicely on schedule to be ready ~end of April.

Obviously the Browning .50 Cal is for the tractor, not for the chickens Roll Eyes. The chickens are however very threatening at times and I completely understand that you need to guard yourself against such imminent danger.

God bless.
1594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: February 27, 2023, 06:15:06 PM
Here we go boys, it's official now,



https://twitter.com/Gervontaa/status/1629214312949751808

And several media outlets are also reporting it, so its' going to be April 22. Everyone is right though, maybe the biggest stumbling block is the court case of Tank Davis, sentencing is May 5 so after this fight, then he has another one in court.

Nevertheless his legal team are going to handle that so there should be no distractions for him and Garcia as well to make this fight happen on April. For sure everyone now is very excited that finally, we have a date and just waiting for what venue it is in Las Vegas.

So the match is definitely happening then? Why can't they ever just say it straight without expressing the ego driven need to make it seem like its still not been decided upon. The cryptic messages on social media posts do become quite annoying after a while. The marketing team seems to be having fun with keeping everyone on edge and listening for anything that might be considered a final decision. But then again, I guess it is working. The fans were obviously jonesing for the details.

Lets see how this plays out.
1595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does this help you win when you're gambling? on: February 27, 2023, 10:31:45 AM
I also bet for fun because when I play to win I realize that greed beats me and I realize that I don't enjoy what I'm doing. Also, even if one day I become an inveterate gambler, I will never consider gambling a job. I don't think it's a job, I think it's a means of entertainment. That's why I bet just for fun and try to enjoy gambling to enjoy the moment. Of course, my thoughts on the subject don't make me a consistently winning gambler, but they do make me one who enjoys gambling.

I agree. Betting for fun is way less stressing than betting big. And it gives you the gambling dopamine rush without so much the gambling money loss aspect of the casino experience  Roll Eyes

The amount of money you should gamble is something that nobody else can decide for you. You should look at how much of your monthly income you can spare and not go beyond that number. For me, 10% from the "fun funds" of the income pie is just right.

For example: If you have 400 dollars for fun (drinking, partying, gambling etc.) then only 40 of those dollars should go to gambling.
1596  Economy / Gambling / Re: This is madness. Something super more than DeepSum on: February 26, 2023, 07:15:27 PM
Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.

It looks to me that you've made an application based on some assumptions and you show that your application does follow your assumptions (and can print nice numbers too).
The problem is that I really think that your assumptions are not correct.

As said, if you want to monetize this application you're doing it wrong.
1. If the application is that good, why don't you gamble yourself with it and earn money?
2. Why you don't find some reputed members willing to test your app with their own money and review it? (And to make it clear: no, I don't want your app).

Exactly what it looks like to me. And I am not even sure what exactly OP wants to do here. Does he expect someone to invest in him? Or does he perhaps use these posts for advertising this upcoming simulator?

Either way the math does not add up and his program is flawed, obviously.

He should post the code publicly if he wants to prove whatever he is trying to prove. Thats really the only way to prove to people he is on to something.

In either case, its complete nonsense.
1597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Jake Paul vs Tommy Fury - February 26 in Saudi Arabia on: February 25, 2023, 06:02:25 PM
Jake Paul has made a bet with Tommy Fury that if Tommy Fury wins he gets double the paycheck but if he loses he gets nothing. They both shaked hands on the deal so I do not know if that is legally binding but there is video evidence of it happening but both fighters look confident going into this fight. Tommy Fury does not normally get as angry as he was in the build up to this fight so I am excited to see if he can use that anger in the ring against Jake Paul.

I am no lawyer nor do I have any kind of law degree or education but it would seem logical to me that even a verbal contract is a binding one. And the fact that they shook hands on that agreement and acknowledged AND that it will recorded on video is more than enough proof of a legally binding agreement. The bet must be honored. If the loser of the bet chickens out and tries to go back on his word, then those actions should have legal consequences for that man.

Not to mention the amount of honor and fans the loser will lose if he goes back on his word. People don't like liars like that who go back on their promises...

1598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Figueroa vs Magsayo WBC Interim Featherweight Title (March 4) on: February 25, 2023, 05:47:55 PM
You guys are measuring the wrong way. Yes they might be both coming from a RECENT loss but lets look at both of their track records over years. Obviously Figueroa might have been on a bad luck streak just like Magsayo, but Magsayo's history is less flawed by a 1 fight (draw). So how does one even compare the two histories? Its hard to tell but Figueroa has been showing more weakness in the recent past, so my money is on Magsayo.

Just because he recently had some bad luck in his fight against Vargas and has finally gotten 1 loss does not make this an eventuality which will happen again. 24 wins 1 loss. Cmon.

But looking at the statistics, even though Figueroa has one draw, his knockout record is more impressive than Magsayo.  Besides, Figueroa is taller and has a reach advantage, if Figueroa mimic the strategy of Vargas, I believe Magsayo will have a huge problem in this fight.

I definitely agree! All boxers have their own failure in this industry and the good thing about them is that they aren't measured by the loss they had but with what they did after the loss they experienced. Both Figueroa and Magsayo came from an unfortunate situation, both boxers didn't want that for sure but they needed it because by that, they will be molded as a much better boxer. But since we are here speculating and putting some bets, my money also goes for Magsayo even if he will be listed as favorite, it will still be Magsayo.

When it comes to betting, I will also go with Magsayo not because I think he is a better boxer but because he is a fellow countryman, and I do that to show my support


That is if Figueroa can mimic the strategy of Vargas and give a hard time to Magsayo but we all know that Figueroa is more like an open book because he's been showing a lot of weaknesses lately than the latter. He might have a good KO ratio but when it comes to ring IQ, I will still side with Magsayo. While for my betting opinion and option, Magsayo is also a fellow countryman but I will bet on him not just because of that fact alone but because I do believe on his talent and that he will beat Figueroa.

Both have different styles and so I doubt that Brandon will mimic the style of Rey Vargas just to win. He has his own way or strategizing in this fight and fight Magsayo the way he knows it.

But for sure it will be his volume punching again, nothing will change a lot here, that's already what we call bread and butter, and that style has been working for him for many years except against Fulton who took all his best shots and received some as well.
Well, in every fight, a fighter could up their game depending on their drive which is more likely from their previous fights.But if we would base on stats, this could be a toe-to-tose or a close match even if they have different fighting styles. The heartbreaker is a heavy puncher and is more agressive but Magnifico has the speed over Figuerroa. This would be interesting for sure because they are fighting for a vacant belt. Both are eager for the spotlight given that their previous fights didn't turn out to be as what they have expected. Hard to guess to be honest but for this fight I guess edge is on The heartbreaker. Outcome probably is by unanimous decision.

It we look at the record though, and basing on their ko % it should be Figueroa that is considered a heavy puncher,

Figueroa - KOs    72%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/718399

Magsayo - KOs    64%
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/653034

Speed in boxing is relative though, you can be fast, but if you are not going to hit a target then that speed is nothing. Or Magsayo could be fast in his last fight, but when he faces another fast boxer, then again, his advantages becomes 0.

That seems like a very tiny difference which also does not account for more complex probabilistic data inputs such as the opponents who they were fighting against. It seems possible to me that Figueroa might not have been getting tougher opponents who do not easily go down unlike the guys that Magsayo fought in his past matches.

That is only one example of why the KO percentage could deviate. If we were to fix for all the correct variables, perhaps even hidden and unknown variables, then we might see both of them having a very similiar KO percentage number.

Sure Figueroa could be considered a heavy puncher. But so is Magsayo.
1599  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 13 years ago Theymos sold 160btc at $0.003 per 1, lowest price ever recorded on: February 25, 2023, 04:57:06 AM
Poor Theymos. I bet he might be regreting that, knowing todays price. Grin

But then again almost all of us regrets not buying BTC sooner.

But its a good thing it happened, if was an important step for Bitcoin adoption and thanks to that ongoing adoption, Bitcoin is worth over 23 thousand dollars by today. Who would have guessed back then that this would become so revolutionary for the evolution of our monetary system.

Bitcoin is definitely one of the few things I love about our modern age. Still waiting on the technology of flying personal vehicles for everyone but we will get there.... Im sure.
1600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is easier to make bets on? on: February 24, 2023, 02:59:07 PM
From my own personal experience, I think MMA is easier to predict than Football, so a gambler is likely to win more bets when such a gambler just focus on MMA betting, but the important thing is that, such a gambler must know MMA stars in and out, he or she must watch all their matches and know their strengths, weaknesses, capabilities and tactics, this is the only way predicting and winning most of the MMA betting would be very much easy for the gambler.

Football prediction on the other hand isn't something that is certain or very easy, this is because football is full of uncertainties, a small team from no where can get up and by luck, beat the bigger team every one is expecting to win the match, last year's world cup where Saudi Arabia beat Argentina, is a good example of what i am talking about.

Of course I would agree on that. MMA certainly is much easier to predict accurately. Its only mathematics if you consider the more variables you have to work with, the more your prediction starts becoming vague and out of focus.

MMA has the upper hand for the gamblers. Not that I believe it is possible to predict anything with 100% accuracy. I am sure however, that you could get a close enough number for whichever gambling strategy.

But you can get a slight edge in, a few extra percent maybe even a two digit number... It really depends on luck anyway. So both are unpredictable with MMA being less so.

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