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October 09, 2019, 09:18:43 PM
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Ok, question, MA repeatedly states China will take over and become the financial capital of the world after 2032. How can this be, with the CCP in charge(communist) and their dual currencies system and not allowing people to take money out of the country, who in their right mind would put their money there to create this change? BTW, I never heard MA ever talk about China's dual currency system, I only found out two weeks or so ago, why the silence on this issue which is significant to anyone who considers putting money in China?  I know there has been dual system for trade but evidently to get money out of China you have to convert to US$ only with the permission of the CCP, this explains bitcoin going to the moon since Chinese have no other way to get money out. If this is old news, I apologize.

As Gumbi said, China will stand taller after the crash and burn;
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/china/chine-the-financial-capital-of-the-world-after-2032
Q - '..You keep stating that the center of Finance will move to China. However, the world distrusts China, rightly so. How can they become the Financial Center if no one trusts them?
A - That will come only after 2032. Keep in mind, the West will be tested and the failed system of continually borrowing is why the confidence in the West will break. After that, it will become the lesser of two evils. The financial capital of the world always migrates. The British never saw how America could take their crown. Throw in a world war, and capital moves..'

https://www.peakprosperity.com/martin-armstrong-dow-35000-by-2021/
'..It’s more than people really understand. The capital flows have been moving into the United States from Europe dramatically and also from China. I mean, that was the whole issue behind bitcoin. More than 80 percent of the volume was all coming out of China because the Chinese figured out “OK, fine, there are currency restraints,. So if I can’t get my cash out of the country, I’ll buy bitcoin and then I’ll sell it in on another terminal outside of China, probably in the US, and I get my money. That’s what’s been going on..'


So we are going to have a "Crash and Burn". Right. Where is the proof?

So China will "stand taller" because currency is flowing out of its country. And become the financial capital of the world. In 2032. Right. Makes sense. Doesn't it? No further research required. Just believe me.

Someone making a prediction so far out into the future is a charlatan. He completely ignores the multitude of China's problems such as pollution and lack of water which make it difficult to even feed its own population without food imports. There are so many factors that predicting such an outcome is just a joke.

We cannot predict this based on some historic occurrence.

As it occurred with America vs England. Right? Very special case. Same people, same langue.
So everyone world wide please quickly adopt the Chinese culture and learn how to speak and write Chinese.

Because Martin Armstrong said so. Give me a break.

To be honest, someone making such a prediction must be a complete idiot.

Martin Armstrong's prediction is linear thinking done on the back of an envelope.

The bullshit flies so high it is beyond description.

Look at how the world looks like now compared with what it looked like in the past. Today, there are no new continents to conquer, and the world economy is fully globalized. There are hundreds of Chinese companies listed on US stock exchanges. Nobody wants anything to collapse because it  would hurt everyone.

Do not expect any drama such as these alt-finance sites project with the aim to attract subscribers of their services.


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October 10, 2019, 02:04:51 AM
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..paid troll..


..sometimes on this forum i think i'm losing my sight..my eyes just glaze over..yeah, nah.
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Actually wrong. If you were right then dozens of people here opposing Martin Armstrong would be paid trolls as well.

The fact is that I am doing this in a more persevering and organized way with high intensity. That is all.

Because I am sick of the doomsday shit that Armstrong puts out to attract conference attendees, site visitors and Socrates subscribers.

Honestly, does anybody believe that western civilization will decay to the point that Armstrong wants us believe (such as "Crash and Burn")? No way. Too much at stake here.

Corruption will be dealt with swiftly. Just look at the Joe and Hunter Biden's dealings. All exposed. The people are not happy with it. Just watch what happens!

The world will not end here. It will fix itself! I hope that Wikileaks Julian Assange will be free soon because Wikileaks or in other words a free press is an important ingredient for that process to accelerate. Because without it, we have totalitarianism, facism. A child can figure that out. Don't waste your time with Armstrong-like cults!


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October 10, 2019, 04:42:53 AM
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Normally I agree with a lot of your comments but Fark Me

If your saying that Joe and His son Hunter( what an Idiotic name) Biden will be dealt with by the law
Then your crazier than MA.NOT A CHANCE, will never happen. he’s a protected species and has too much dirt on others
The world has become so corrupt that only guns and blood will fix it nothing else , but we aren’t there yet.
If they get Trump as they’re attempting to then I can see Blood in the streets of USA but not full blown civil war.
As for Assange being released 😂😂 !!!! like Epstein he will be carried out on a trolley
Killery Klinton will see to that
Now where’s MA!   what’s he pumping now
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October 10, 2019, 05:05:24 AM
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I sincerely hope for all of us that you are wrong, not so much because I disagree with your observations, but because of something else:

I hate fatalism.

At some point, and that is a timing issue, some positive forces may prevail earlier than negative forces and prevent a violent outcome. Every politician wants to be elected. Pure self-interest. And if a politician recognizes that the best platform would be justice and anti-corruption, then that will be the platform of the most successful politician.

Therefore, it is a matter of how corrupt the population electing the politician is.

Have you ever wondered why some people still admire corrupt super-rich assholes? Entire news magazines are dedicated to them. Readers just want to be as stinking rich as the celebrities.

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While people are hyper focused on "politics" and that corruption, corporations aka money, is slowly stripping us of freedoms and society is forming idealistic tribes and seeing others as "enemies". It will all come to a head sooner or later and we're well overdue for a major armed conflict. Look over her at my left hand so you don't see what's going on with the right hand.

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October 10, 2019, 06:43:22 AM
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While people are hyper focused on "politics" and that corruption, corporations aka money, is slowly stripping us of freedoms and society is forming idealistic tribes and seeing others as "enemies". It will all come to a head sooner or later and we're well overdue for a major armed conflict. Look over her at my left hand so you don't see what's going on with the right hand.


While we should be aware of distraction tactics being used as you say, all this essentially falls apart with transparency and an independent press. Sorry to be boring, but Wikleaks really is the answer to this. Julian Assange is truly an eye opener because he explains in simple terms how delegation is the problem, and the corruption that comes with it is part of human nature. Since I do not subscribe to *isms that try to change the human nature to serve some higher common good and strips us of personal freedoms, I prefer the simple mechanism of transparency that aims to keep people as honest as possible, not only the politicians, but also corporations. Assange truly is a genius and therefore, all evildoers who like exploiting others for their benefit are afraid of him.


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October 10, 2019, 10:02:33 AM
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Thanks guys for the replies. I still can't see China becoming the financial capital even if the Democrats take over. That would be like going from the frying pan to the fire, unless China somehow has Freedom of moving money and more capitalistic. They go hand in hand, can't see that but one never knows. But hey, the worlds gonna end in 12 years, so who cares anyway, lol.
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October 10, 2019, 04:02:52 PM
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But hey, the worlds gonna end in 12 years, so who cares anyway, lol.

Are u refering to MA's ECM or AOC's BS?
"...The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don't address climate change..."

in 12 years a lot can happen. War can break out, currency reset(s) might happen or both. capital controls can be lifted as a result one of the first 2 (or both or something else). As seen after 9/11, a lot can happen in 12 years. But yes, a shift of the world capital should probably require much more then "just" a 9/11, IMHO. But I'm not too sure about it. Crazy things are happening nowadays.
On the other side, I would not bet that one of the above will definitely happen within 12 years, but it could...
The fact is, that FUD sells. Almost everywhere.
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October 11, 2019, 09:33:43 AM
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Below is an email doing the rounds direct from Armstrong Events team. Curiously, the email has an address on it:

AE Global Solutions, Inc. | 300 Delaware Ave. Suite 210,Wilmington,DE,USA,19801


Which is... A virtual office: https://www.davincivirtual.com/loc/us/delaware/wilmington-virtual-offices/facility-1929

And yet MA only the other day mentioned:

As I have said, we have 3 offices in Asia and clients on every side of this issue with questions.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/cold-the-great-migration/

This narrative seems to get more mentions nearer WECs, perhaps so it sounds like AE GS Inc. is a much bigger organisation than an ageing one-man-band, living out of a reasonably sized home in FL, with a network of virtual offices and everything else outsourced.



WEC Email:


"I have never witnessed such complete disruption to the world economy on a massive scale of this nature. This is going to be a challenge to survive."
- Martin A. Armstrong

The Armstrong computer model correctly forecast that a liquidity crisis would begin in September, and right on schedule. In the early hours of September 17, the repo rate jumped 500%. The Fed is now threatening to take over the market after injecting over half a trillion dollars.  And the liquidity problem is not going away. Even after injecting over $500 billion, the Fed will continue to inject upwards of $76 billion a day at least until November 4.  

The EU has rejected Boris Johnson’s most recent Brexit offer, which increases the chance of “no deal” by the October 31st deadline. On Tuesday, the new head of the IMF, Kristalina Georgieva, warned to get ready for a serious global economic downturn. And of course, the latest Trump impeachment battle is heating up. This is just part of the backdrop as we head into the next major turning point on the Economic Confidence Model in January, 2020.

At the world Economic Conference in Orlando our models will tell you what’s coming next, how to prepare and how to profit as we enter the next stage of the Monetary Crisis in 2021/2022.

“Markets are going to push every emotional button we have…Only the objectivity of the Socrates Model can help us navigate this unprecedented period."

There are only 32 seats left to the most important event of the year -- the World Economic Conference in Orlando, FL (Oct. 25-26).




The contentious sentence is the email opener:
The Armstrong computer model correctly forecast that a liquidity crisis would begin in September, and right on schedule. In the early hours of September 17, the repo rate jumped 500%.

And yet checking the turning points, there is nothing for 2019:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/models/historical-turning-points-economic-confidence-model-6000bc-2072ad/

And I can find no historic citations on his blog about this "correct" forecast that was "right on schedule" - until after the event had happened. That seems to be a recurring theme with MA. Claiming he "predicted" something, but only after the event has happened. Examples of that stretch back at least as far back as his writings from jail. It would be safe to assume his much older forecasts used exactly the same trick.

In fact, what I did find was this:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/socrates/liquidity-crisis/

Take a look, it actually made me laugh.

There is a picture of Socrates Verbal Inquiry Facility where MA appears to have typed in a misspelt question. Then Socrates - presumably using the now debunked claim that IBM Sequoia is crunching the numbers - spits out some inane statement that isn't even actionable.

The system then appears to have three buttons, one of which is "execute". What does that do exactly? Print it out onto some paper?...

Unfortunately, as the years go by, the guy appear to be even more of a complete fraud. It is just sugar coated because he does have reasonable knowledge of global socioeconomics, human behaviour and the monetary system.

He knows nothing more than any other analyst. His AI computer system does not exist. 2020.05 will come to pass... And like 2015.75, nothing will happen.

Other than hoodwinking more people out thousands of dollars for 250 page PDFs that contain 249 pages of historical ramblings and one page of opinions, with nothing actionable... And WECs, which are an elaborate presentation of his blog content that he laughably refers to as the "alternative to Davos"!

I also find it very curious that something as major as Brexit - quite possibly the greatest political crisis in the UK since the 1600s - gets barely any mention or even a Socrates prediction about what might happen. Socrates never forecast the Brexit delay of 31 Mar 2019, nor the likely delay beyond 31 October 2019. If the UK does leave the EU, it will have vast ramifications for the future of the EU and even the US. But instead, he (or "Socrates") constantly focuses on the euro and ECB to extreme hysteria. I thought Socrates knew everything and could forecast everything?

The only useful application for such a bogus system is extracting money out of the gullible that keeps MA tidy in semi-retirement.

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October 11, 2019, 11:30:22 AM
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But hey, the worlds gonna end in 12 years, so who cares anyway, lol.

Are u refering to MA's ECM or AOC's BS?
"...The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don't address climate change..."

in 12 years a lot can happen. War can break out, currency reset(s) might happen or both. capital controls can be lifted as a result one of the first 2 (or both or something else). As seen after 9/11, a lot can happen in 12 years. But yes, a shift of the world capital should probably require much more then "just" a 9/11, IMHO. But I'm not too sure about it. Crazy things are happening nowadays.
On the other side, I would not bet that one of the above will definitely happen within 12 years, but it could...
The fact is, that FUD sells. Almost everywhere.

I was referring to AOC, that crazy chick.
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October 11, 2019, 04:55:38 PM
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AE Global Solutions, Inc. | 300 Delaware Ave. Suite 210,Wilmington,DE,USA,19801
Which is... A virtual office:
.......
I thought Socrates knew everything and could forecast everything?

1. Delaware has extreme low taxes. I assume he has an office there to save taxes.
2. Socrates will only forecast what it's programmed to forecast and there is enough historical data to forecast it. MA has said several times that he doesn't expect that anything major happens after Brexit. He see's a lot of media hysteria.
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October 12, 2019, 03:37:19 AM
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In fact, what I did find was this:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/socrates/liquidity-crisis/

Take a look, it actually made me laugh.

There is a picture of Socrates Verbal Inquiry Facility where MA appears to have typed in a misspelt question. Then Socrates - presumably using the now debunked claim that IBM Sequoia is crunching the numbers - spits out some inane statement that isn't even actionable.

The system then appears to have three buttons, one of which is "execute". What does that do exactly? Print it out onto some paper?...

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October 13, 2019, 01:32:45 PM
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There is a picture of Socrates Verbal Inquiry Facility where MA appears to have typed in a misspelt question. Then Socrates - presumably using the now debunked claim that IBM Sequoia is crunching the numbers - spits out some inane statement that isn't even actionable.
The system then appears to have three buttons, one of which is "execute". What does that do exactly? Print it out onto some paper?...

"execute" means, send my question that I've typed in the text box to Socrates. Socrates in turn will send back an answer.
The question is very generic and so is the answer. This Q&A form is anyways not present in the current Socrates system.
Actionable info and data is in the reversals, arrays and global market watch, respectively a combination of the 3.
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In fact, what I did find was this:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/products_services/socrates/liquidity-crisis/

Take a look, it actually made me laugh.

There is a picture of Socrates Verbal Inquiry Facility where MA appears to have typed in a misspelt question. Then Socrates - presumably using the now debunked claim that IBM Sequoia is crunching the numbers - spits out some inane statement that isn't even actionable.

The system then appears to have three buttons, one of which is "execute". What does that do exactly? Print it out onto some paper?...

Unfortunately, as the years go by, the guy appear to be even more of a complete fraud. It is just sugar coated because he does have reasonable knowledge of global socioeconomics, human behaviour and the monetary system.

He knows nothing more than any other analyst. His AI computer system does not exist. 2020.05 will come to pass... And like 2015.75, nothing will happen.

Other than hoodwinking more people out thousands of dollars for 250 page PDFs that contain 249 pages of historical ramblings and one page of opinions, with nothing actionable... And WECs, which are an elaborate presentation of his blog content that he laughably refers to as the "alternative to Davos"!

I also find it very curious that something as major as Brexit - quite possibly the greatest political crisis in the UK since the 1600s - gets barely any mention or even a Socrates prediction about what might happen. Socrates never forecast the Brexit delay of 31 Mar 2019, nor the likely delay beyond 31 October 2019. If the UK does leave the EU, it will have vast ramifications for the future of the EU and even the US. But instead, he (or "Socrates") constantly focuses on the euro and ECB to extreme hysteria. I thought Socrates knew everything and could forecast everything?

The only useful application for such a bogus system is extracting money out of the gullible that keeps MA tidy in semi-retirement.

I bet Marty generates his mails with his computer:



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October 13, 2019, 05:23:54 PM
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...

I bet Marty generates his mails with his computer:





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Good work, good fun.

Actually, his computer is rather stupid. Every single sentence it will ever write has to by hard-coded by an expensive programmer. Here is the proof. Following is the set of possible phrases that appear in the same place of his reports that gets selected from randomly. You can check that yourself by re-loading a report - the phrase is likely to change to one of these:

        "WRITTEN VIEW PER THE CLOSE OF ",
        "WRITTEN OPINION AS OF THE CLOSE ",
        "OUR ANALYTICAL OPINION AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "THE ANALYSIS PERSPECTIVE AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "THE ANALYSIS FOR THE CLOSE OF ",
        "ANALYSIS FOR THE CLOSE OF ",
        "OUR ANALYTICAL ANALYSIS AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "WRITTEN VIEW PER THE CLOSE OF ",
        "THE ANALYSIS PER THE CLOSE OF ",
        "ANALYSIS AS OF THE CLOSE ",
        "As of the close of ",
        "UTILIZING OUR ANALYTICAL MODEL FOR THE CLOSE OF ",
        "OUR ANALYTICAL VIEWPOINT AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "THE IMMEDIATE ANALYTICAL STANCE AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "WE SEE THE ANALYTICAL SITUATION AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "OUR ANALYTICAL OUTLOOK AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "THE ANALYTICAL POSTURE CURRENTLY AS OF THE CLOSE OF ",
        "CURRENTLY, OUR ANALYTICAL POSITION AS OF THE CLOSE OF "

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        "WRITTEN VIEW PER THE CLOSE OF ",
great, now are attacking the sentence structure of the reports. That is certainly very relevant for trading. hahaha.
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       "WRITTEN VIEW PER THE CLOSE OF ",
great, now are attacking the sentence structure of the reports. That is certainly very relevant for trading. hahaha.


 Kiss

Who said that Socrates can be used for trading? I certainly did not say that.

It is used to extract money from subscribers. No other purpose.


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October 17, 2019, 05:47:34 AM
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Thanks for this blog as it just saved me a few months of $15's when I googled!

I cancelled previously when all the reversal dates went wrong on the Euro & GBP then he tried to say its right lol and also it completely missed the Xmas low in US stocks which was a cycle move back upwards lol.

So I noticed the recent post on the sun spots where he has chopped the sunspots chart so you can't see where it came from but if you google image it its one of the first charts there. He attempts to make it look like his own chart by chopping the information on who produced it.

http://    sunspotwatch.com/share/201407_wolfmms.jpg

Nice job here, hopefully people can google first and not be scammed. Finally the thing that gave it away for me was when they couldn't get my card to pay properly on the website lol so if he has this all swinging computer yet it cant take a payment....right lol   and then someone from the middle east is trying to contact me for my 15$.......  thanks again
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October 17, 2019, 06:09:14 AM
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He attempts to make it look like his own chart by chopping the information on who produced it. http://    sunspotwatch.com/share/201407_wolfmms.jpg

regarding that chart he was saying that it's raw data, that is available everywhere. This is not a forecast chart.
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