Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Kuroth]

Whatever dude..  I did do my research  and I know what I have gotten into thank you very much.

So now are you going to go out and try and research who I am and post trash about me?  LOL..

You are a piece of Shit.

What the hell are you in about?!

Research what on you? Post what trash about you?

How can you say you know what you've gotten yourself into, when the entire purpose of your query was the whereabouts of video evidence that can't exist, as the entire premise of KnC succeeding is taking receipt of chips delivery and heading straight inti production.

Like you did that other guy that posted on the Thread when you looked up and posted that he was living in houses he did not own etc..  I cant rememebr the exacts..  I thought at the time is was pretty low to do..


Anyway I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you..  I will simply state what I said above..

"And correct..  I am not going to spend another DAMN dime with Knc unless they release more Proof and Pics..  Sorry..  3rd grade drawings dont do it for me anymore..


Put up or shut up Knc.."

[DimensionsOfHell]

From what I've read before, I think in one of their news letters, I believe what they are going to use the wallet id is for when they test the individual rigs. I remember reading that they will test each unit before shipping them out. The wallet is probably used to so that you will receive whatever coins the rig generates during that test-in time. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that's what it's for.

[CoinHoarder]

After much observation, it is very likely Bitcoinorama is a shill. He goes above and beyond to defend KNC and proclaim how great KNC is in every aspect, but is extremely critical of their competitors.

That is only my opinion though. I know he's going to reply to this stating otherwise, but whatever...

BTW: No, you do not have to be paid to be a shill. Merriam-Webster: to act as a spokesperson or promoter

[CoinHoarder]

From what I've read before, I think in one of their news letters, I believe what they are going to use the wallet id is for when they test the individual rigs. I remember reading that they will test each unit before shipping them out. The wallet is probably used to so that you will receive whatever coins the rig generates during that test-in time. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that's what it's for.

Most likely, I assumed this as well.

[WastedLTC]

Just amazing...

BTC Difficulty 37,392,768 -> 50,636,479 (35.42%) in 2 hours.   What a huge jump!  I believe this is a record.  13.2 million in a single bound.

Is it possible to manipulate the difficulty increases by removing hashing power prior to the change? How is the next difficulty level set?  Average over a number of blocks?   Just looks like 100TH dropped off the network today just before the increase and I'm sure we will see the power back online immediately after the difficulty gets set.

Don't even bother looking at Mining.TheGenesisBlock.com until after the change has happened.  Their moving window for the average difficulty is based on a 30 day window which causes it to be all messed up near the end of the window.  Example, right now it expects a very low monthly increase (in the 30% range).  I'm sure it will show 75% or more once that window gets corrected.

Just amazing to see how quickly the value of a miner can drop and this is why everyone is "concerned".    

KNC has provided all the info they currently have and the next update will probably be that the chips are in.  Until then we can watch the charts!

[arbitrage001]

How accurate is the prediction on the difficulty level?


We all know difficulty is rising fast, and knc needs to ship out the unit before it reach 120m assuming BTC is around 100USD each.

[fcmatt]

This is all a race to the bottom when it comes to asics. only the people who get it first win for each generation of gear.
And that assumes a level playing field where the manufacturers are not using your money to build their mining farm first.
everyone else can suck eggs. you feeling lucky punk?

[arbitrage001]

This is all a race to the bottom when it comes to asics. only the people who get it first win for each generation of gear.
And that assumes a level playing field where the manufacturers are not using your money to build their mining farm first.
everyone else can suck eggs. you feeling lucky punk?

Think there isn't really anything we can do till September. Maybe god will favor this wave of miner and BTC suddenly rise to 200 and everyone win?


As for people who is bashing or defending knc, they should really chill out. September is only a few WEEKS away.

[DimensionsOfHell]

This is all a race to the bottom when it comes to asics. only the people who get it first win for each generation of gear.
And that assumes a level playing field where the manufacturers are not using your money to build their mining farm first.
everyone else can suck eggs. you feeling lucky punk?

Think there isn't really anything we can do till September. Maybe god will favor this wave of miner and BTC suddenly rise to 200 and everyone win?


As for people who is bashing or defending knc, they should really chill out. September is only a few WEEKS away.

But October isn't... :-( My order date is for October (Saturn), probably end of october!  If it rises at this level, it'll probably be over 200m diff by the time I get my rig... $4000 down the drain...


If by beginning of October the difficulty is around 200m, I'll be surely asking for a refund. Can't afford to lose four grand, or wait for a year just to get ROI

[ImI]

Think there isn't really anything we can do till September. Maybe god will favor this wave of miner and BTC suddenly rise to 200 and everyone win?

Price of BTC has nothing to do with mining ROI.

As for people who is bashing or defending knc, they should really chill out. September is only a few WEEKS away.

It is, but you better expect delivery at 25th of september and NOT 5th of september...

[-Redacted-]

Actually, for "September delivery" I expect delivery by 11:59 PM on September 30th.   Any time before that is a bonus.

And, at 00:01 local time on October 1st, I'll start cancelling any and all orders that haven't shipped.

[KS]

After much observation, it is very likely Bitcoinorama is a shill. He goes above and beyond to defend KNC and proclaim how great KNC is in every aspect, but is extremely critical of their competitors.

That is only my opinion though. I know he's going to reply to this stating otherwise, but whatever...

BTW: No, you do not have to be paid to be a shill. Merriam-Webster: to act as a spokesperson or promoter

Yeah well, check page 53

[SirWizz]

Actually, for "September delivery" I expect delivery by 11:59 PM on September 30th.   Any time before that is a bonus.

I am hoping we'll all get a bonus in that case since they are ahead according to the latest news .

[Bitcoinorama]

After much observation, it is very likely Bitcoinorama is a shill. He goes above and beyond to defend KNC and proclaim how great KNC is in every aspect, but is extremely critical of their competitors.

That is only my opinion though. I know he's going to reply to this stating otherwise, but whatever...

BTW: No, you do not have to be paid to be a shill. Merriam-Webster: to act as a spokesperson or promoter

Yeah well, check page 53

I did, what of it? How's your $100k in Avalon going. Why are you here?

[arbitrage001]

Think there isn't really anything we can do till September. Maybe god will favor this wave of miner and BTC suddenly rise to 200 and everyone win?

Price of BTC has nothing to do with mining ROI.

As for people who is bashing or defending knc, they should really chill out. September is only a few WEEKS away.

It is, but you better expect delivery at 25th of september and NOT 5th of september...

Well, I don't hold bitcoin. The price of BTC has everything to do with ROI. If I pay 1k for a miner and if I mine 1BTC which I can sell for 1k, then I got back my investment.


If September delivery is delayed, then we can all assume October delivery will be delayed also. I suspect it won't take long in September for people to figure out what's going on.

[DPoS]

Just amazing...

BTC Difficulty 37,392,768 -> 50,636,479 (35.42%) in 2 hours.   What a huge jump!  I believe this is a record.  13.2 million in a single bound.

Is it possible to manipulate the difficulty increases by removing hashing power prior to the change? How is the next difficulty level set?  Average over a number of blocks?   Just looks like 100TH dropped off the network today just before the increase and I'm sure we will see the power back online immediately after the difficulty gets set.

We've seen AM drop the hash power in large amounts in the past but not sure if they were toying with anything or just restructuring their pools

Yes, the diff estimate has rose a lot in just the past few days.  The next jump is very key since that will take place just before september.  Will it stay under 70mil then? and perhaps 87ish the first jump in Sept?

That would be in line to what many of us predicted a few months ago.  If it screams to 100k in the first week of Sept there will be a lot of emails to KNC on ship dates if they havent started testing by then

[augustocroppo]

Like you did that other guy that posted on the Thread when you looked up and posted that he was living in houses he did not own etc..  I cant rememebr the exacts..  I thought at the time is was pretty low to do..

Anyway I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you..  I will simply state what I said above..

"And correct..  I am not going to spend another DAMN dime with Knc unless they release more Proof and Pics..  Sorry..  3rd grade drawings dont do it for me anymore..


Put up or shut up Knc.."

That was me.

It is becoming more than obvious that Bitcoinorama have some serious issues to deal with people in a business environment.

Kuroth, you are pretty entitled to ask whatever questions you want if you are interested to become a KnC buyer. Do not let people like Bitcoinorama let you down. At this point is quite reasonable ask for a proper announcement from KnC.

For all people waiting for valid questions as Kuroth, I want to say that that I support you and I wish you the best outcome.

[ridnovir]

Just amazing...

BTC Difficulty 37,392,768 -> 50,636,479 (35.42%) in 2 hours.   What a huge jump!  I believe this is a record.  13.2 million in a single bound.

currently difficulty is at 37. and is estimated to jump to 50. which is ~%35 increase so, if this trend continues, we are talking ~%100 increase per month
http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/
that is why I decided not to buy knc Jupiter at the moment, even if it is delivered in October as promised I still would not make ROI.
if there is a flaw in this logic please point it out I really want to get Jupiter.

[kano]

Odd how a single event can determine the future for eternity ...

[Kuroth]

I was not going to say anything as I am NOT the type to post FUD but now that Bitcoinorama PISSED me off I will…

I found it a little odd in Knc’s last newsletter that they pimped just the Jupiter stating and teasing us that it’s going to be considerable more powerful than the stated 400 GH..  Now you would think if this is the case with the Jupiter, it would be the case for all the other units as well would it not???  Then why not state that too???   Struck me as they are trying Pimp people to do the Upgrade to the Jupiter..    Just seems a little odd to me..


Maybe its FUD maybe not.. Do you know for sure?