Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Bitcoinorama]

kncminers update:

Without intending to sound too negative, I'm sure things are going great for these guys, but that is a bit of an underwhelming update isn't it? Reminds me of TerraHash's July 5th update. It does look like a good, solid case mind you - wouldn't want to get hit over the head with one of them!

It's amazing how there's always beef, and dissatisfaction, no matter the update. Two days ago they were;

"a scam, words mean nothing, pictures are worth a thousand words", and; "we want case pics!!"

Now, and without warning, pictures of casing, received by a mix of 'hurrah', and 'grumble, grumble...'.

You got what you asked for, a thousand words in images, said with minimal text. Lol.

[fragout]

Noob question here but knc said there would be an RJ45 connector on the case to presumable connect directly to your router. I assumed the machine would connect directly to a computer (which is connected wirelessly to a router in my case) via usb where you would then set up cgminer to connect to whatever pool you were on.
Can someone explain exactly how these new fangled Asic machines are set up?

[ridnovir]

I am glad that there is an update. knc will try to stick to its targets and I sure hope they will succeed.
However, with the current difficulty increases of 30-35% every 10 days for at least a few months (before the field levels) any hope for profits (even marginal ones) is overoptimistic.

[CYPER]

Noob question here but knc said there would be an RJ45 connector on the case to presumable connect directly to your router. I assumed the machine would connect directly to a computer (which is connected wirelessly to a router in my case) via usb where you would then set up cgminer to connect to whatever pool you were on.
Can someone explain exactly how these new fangled Asic machines are set up?

I expect a web interface similar to a router.

[fragout]

Noob question here but knc said there would be an RJ45 connector on the case to presumable connect directly to your router. I assumed the machine would connect directly to a computer (which is connected wirelessly to a router in my case) via usb where you would then set up cgminer to connect to whatever pool you were on.
Can someone explain exactly how these new fangled Asic machines are set up?

I expect a web interface similar to a router.

Ahhhh . don't know why I didn't think of that. tks

[darianc]

Noob question here but knc said there would be an RJ45 connector on the case to presumable connect directly to your router. I assumed the machine would connect directly to a computer (which is connected wirelessly to a router in my case) via usb where you would then set up cgminer to connect to whatever pool you were on.
Can someone explain exactly how these new fangled Asic machines are set up?

I expect a web interface similar to a router.

Early on (June 3rd) I asked about ssh access to my hosted jupiters.  Sam replied:

"Yes ssh access would be allowed inside our hosting environment we will announce more details in the coming weeks via a news letter"

So maybe there's a shell involved too.

[jimmy3dita]

With an external PSU and flying molex connectors I doubt that many "colo" datacenters will be happy to host it.

It's also quite big, a 42 units rack will get quickly filled

[tarmi]

You got what you asked for, a thousand words in images, said with minimal text. Lol.

 


dont want to spoil the party, but where are the chips?

[jlsminingcorp]

Without intending to sound too negative, I'm sure things are going great for these guys, but that is a bit of an underwhelming update isn't it? Reminds me of TerraHash's July 5th update. It does look like a good, solid case mind you - wouldn't want to get hit over the head with one of them!

It's amazing how there's always beef, and dissatisfaction, no matter the update. Two days ago they were;

"a scam, words mean nothing, pictures are worth a thousand words", and; "we want case pics!!"

Now, and without warning, pictures of casing, received by a mix of 'hurrah', and 'grumble, grumble...'.

You got what you asked for, a thousand words in images, said with minimal text. Lol.

Thought I might get a bit of a cold response to that . Seriously, no offence to these guys, I guess I'm just excited to see what they can produce. Like a little kid at Christmas I'm just impatient to see what Father Christmas has put under the tree and I can't help feeling that I've just been told that it's not time to get up yet .

BTW - for the record, I've never called KnC a scam or asked for case pics. Although you're right that many people have, so this should be just what they are after right?

[greenbtc]

With an external PSU and flying molex connectors I doubt that many "colo" datacenters will be happy to host it.

It's also quite big, a 42 units rack will get quickly filled

I was thinking this as well. It certainly does not look as "rack friendly" as they were originally claiming, especially if the PSU is not housed within the unit.

[blastbob]

With an external PSU and flying molex connectors I doubt that many "colo" datacenters will be happy to host it.

It's also quite big, a 42 units rack will get quickly filled

Due power usage, 6 per rack is "max/recommended" anyway. So its not a problem.

[Bitcoinorama]

You got what you asked for, a thousand words in images, said with minimal text. Lol.

 


dont want to spoil the party, but where are the chips?

Dude, tell me that's not a serious question. Please.

[greenbtc]

With an external PSU and flying molex connectors I doubt that many "colo" datacenters will be happy to host it.

It's also quite big, a 42 units rack will get quickly filled

Due power usage, 6 per rack is "max/recommended" anyway. So its not a problem.

Power usage has nothing to do with how much you can fit in a rack. Thermal, on the other hand, does (which,  yes, is related to power, but certainly when you spec out what you can fit in a rack, you do not go and check the wattage on everything). Most data centers can give you whatever you need for amperage/voltage, as long as you are willing to pay.

[augustocroppo]

With an external PSU and flying molex connectors I doubt that many "colo" datacenters will be happy to host it.

It's also quite big, a 42 units rack will get quickly filled

I was thinking this as well. It certainly does not look as "rack friendly" as they were originally claiming, especially if the PSU is not housed within the unit.

Well, there is a solution for the lack of design to fit in a rack:

Technical details
Rack capacity: 2U
Maximum weight (capacity): 22.6 kg
Colour of product: Black
Source data-sheet: Icecat.biz

Other features
Width: 482.7 mm
Weight: 2.6 kg
Size: 406.4 mm (16 ")
Package weight: 3.3 kg
Height: 88 mm
Depth   : 406.4 mm

Read more at http://www.extak.com/catalog/25295/StarTech.com-2U-16-inch-Universal-Vented#qAWKhfPCXX33RWBx.99  

[timmmers]

New NEWS!

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-28

Clicked to see a working miner, got a simple case instead....

You got what they have, what people have asked for, anything they can show us.
This is why if it were me I'd have ignored the constant pestering...because everything shown won't be real or good enough for the armchair engineers, and criticised no-matter what.

They just can't win.

[greenbtc]

With an external PSU and flying molex connectors I doubt that many "colo" datacenters will be happy to host it.

It's also quite big, a 42 units rack will get quickly filled

I was thinking this as well. It certainly does not look as "rack friendly" as they were originally claiming, especially if the PSU is not housed within the unit.

Well, there is a solution for the lack of design to fit in a rack:

Technical details
Rack capacity: 2U
Maximum weight (capacity): 22.6 kg
Colour of product: Black
Source data-sheet: Icecat.biz

Other features
Width: 482.7 mm
Weight: 2.6 kg
Size: 406.4 mm (16 ")
Package weight: 3.3 kg
Height: 88 mm
Depth   : 406.4 mm

Read more at http://www.extak.com/catalog/25295/StarTech.com-2U-16-inch-Universal-Vented#qAWKhfPCXX33RWBx.99  

I'm aware of the options of getting something in a rack, but my main point was the external PSU. I haven't seen a whole lot of equipment in racks that had external PSUs, so you are either going to have to eat up space in the rack somewhere for the PSU, or create an area outside the rack for the PSUs. Either way, this is eating up valuable space in an expensive area to house things

[timmmers]

Noob question here but knc said there would be an RJ45 connector on the case to presumable connect directly to your router. I assumed the machine would connect directly to a computer (which is connected wirelessly to a router in my case) via usb where you would then set up cgminer to connect to whatever pool you were on.
Can someone explain exactly how these new fangled Asic machines are set up?

Go back a few pages and read their updates on their site.
This is all answered.
They are standalone linux boxes and when you order they have a form so you can pop in your pool details so it's ready to run the day you get it...all set up.
All you need is a power supply.
In short they set them up  for you if you give them the info they need.

[Bitcoinorama]

[greenbtc]

I'm aware of the options of getting something in a rack, but my main point was the external PSU. I haven't seen a whole lot of equipment in racks that had external PSUs, so you are either going to have to eat up space in the rack somewhere for the PSU, or create an area outside the rack for the PSUs. Either way, this is eating up valuable space in an expensive area to house things

True, I agree with your conclusion.

There is an important participant of this forum discussing the role of the PSU for the KnC case:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273584

I have reached out to them to confirm what the rail requirements are for the PSU. Hopefully they will nip this in the butt and just clear the air as it really seems it has to be a typo.

[ASIC-K]

I'm aware of the options of getting something in a rack, but my main point was the external PSU. I haven't seen a whole lot of equipment in racks that had external PSUs, so you are either going to have to eat up space in the rack somewhere for the PSU, or create an area outside the rack for the PSUs. Either way, this is eating up valuable space in an expensive area to house things

True, I agree with your conclusion.

There is an important participant of this forum discussing the role of the PSU for the KnC case:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273584

I have reached out to them to confirm what the rail requirements are for the PSU. Hopefully they will nip this in the butt and just clear the air as it really seems it has to be a typo.

The saying is nip it in the bud. Not butt. But I appreciate you trying haha