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May 24, 2013, 06:24:29 AM
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Another minor bit of feedback to add to your long list of things you might do to improve the site.  I think it's safe to switch the "fastest users" section of the live stats from Mhps to Ghps. I don't think anyone in the top 50 list will be under 1Ghps ever again in the new ASIC world of bitcoin mining.
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Does bitminter work with 1) ASICMINER BLADES , 2) ASICMINER USB miners , and 3) Butterfly Labs Jalapeno/5 GH/s miner ? Thanks for the reply.

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May 24, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
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Does bitminter work with 1) ASICMINER BLADES , 2) ASICMINER USB miners , and 3) Butterfly Labs Jalapeno/5 GH/s miner ? Thanks for the reply.

If you're asking about the pool: yes if your mining software supports stratum.
If you're asking about the java app: don't know. DrHaribo?
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May 24, 2013, 11:25:18 AM
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Is the site down?

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May 24, 2013, 11:54:33 AM
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YESSSSSS the SITE is DOWN lol

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May 24, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
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Sorry, website back up. I moved the website to a new server a couple days ago, and it seems to be triggering a bug in third party software i am using. That's how some concurrency bugs are. Sad Trying to find a solution for it.

Does bitminter work with 1) ASICMINER BLADES , 2) ASICMINER USB miners , and 3) Butterfly Labs Jalapeno/5 GH/s miner ? Thanks for the reply.

If you're asking about the pool: yes if your mining software supports stratum.
If you're asking about the java app: don't know. DrHaribo?


The BFL ASICs should work fine. Untested on minirigs though. They use a link between cards in the rig with a way to send commands to individual cards. That part hasn't been tested yet.

The ASICminer devices.. I don't know. Not easy to get communicate with those guys, I guess they are too busy. But I read somewhere that the USB device works like an Icarus FPGA, and those are supported in BitMinter client. So it may work. I would certainly like to hear about it if someone gets a chance to try it out.

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May 24, 2013, 12:58:03 PM
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The ASICminer devices.. I don't know. Not easy to get communicate with those guys, I guess they are too busy. But I read somewhere that the USB device works like an Icarus FPGA, and those are supported in BitMinter client. So it may work. I would certainly like to hear about it if someone gets a chance to try it out.

I have ordered an AM Erupter USB miner, I'm waiting for the GB to complete and ship. I will write about my experience with BitMinter client + Erupter USB as soon as I get it, if do one did in the meantime.

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May 24, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
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YESSSSSS the SITE is DOWN lol

I don't see the joke. I've been 8 hours mining and don't see any payments in my transaction history, I don't know if this pool is working or not.

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May 24, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
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stratum server seems to be down
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May 24, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
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Yup, down again. For 13 mns now.

Why the frell so many retards spell "ect" as an abbreviation of "Et Cetera"? "ETC", DAMMIT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

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May 24, 2013, 06:03:03 PM
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Back up, downtime was 15 minutes and a bunch of stales. Tongue

Why the frell so many retards spell "ect" as an abbreviation of "Et Cetera"? "ETC", DAMMIT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

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May 24, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
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Mining service is back up again. Apologies for the downtime.

I had to extract some data before restarting it. Working on the issue now.

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May 24, 2013, 07:02:31 PM
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The ASICminer devices.. I don't know. Not easy to get communicate with those guys, I guess they are too busy. But I read somewhere that the USB device works like an Icarus FPGA, and those are supported in BitMinter client. So it may work. I would certainly like to hear about it if someone gets a chance to try it out.

I have ordered an AM Erupter USB miner, I'm waiting for the GB to complete and ship. I will write about my experience with BitMinter client + Erupter USB as soon as I get it, if do one did in the meantime.

Thanks, that would be awesome. Smiley I hope it works.

I don't see the joke. I've been 8 hours mining and don't see any payments in my transaction history, I don't know if this pool is working or not.

This pool uses the PPLNS reward system, not PPS. Rewards have been running stable for almost 2 years. It's just that there is some delay with this reward system - it's how we can pay better than most other pools.

Without the prepay perk you need to wait for blocks to be confirmed before you get your share from them. This takes about 20 hours (120 confirmations). Even without prepay there is a delay from you do the work until you get paid. Work is registered in a shift when you send it in. The work in the 10 latest completed shifts get paid when a block is found. Your work is usually paid several times before it is no longer in the 10 latest shifts. It currently takes over 4 hours before it stops being paid from new blocks. Without prepay, add a 20 hour delay before the coins reach your account.

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May 25, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
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is "Unconfirmed Transactions" accurate?

Mine has been stuck at the same number for 8 hours, yet I see my earnings in each individual block if I go look


sorry to be so picky about this, but I have to earn back my mining hardware, in a limited time, haha
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May 25, 2013, 08:25:33 AM
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talk about some bad luck lately Sad

BTW, good pool and website. Only thing missing for me is a "Miner down alert".
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May 25, 2013, 08:27:13 AM
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is "Unconfirmed Transactions" accurate?

Mine has been stuck at the same number for 8 hours, yet I see my earnings in each individual block if I go look


sorry to be so picky about this, but I have to earn back my mining hardware, in a limited time, haha

If you have the pre-paid perk enabled (My Account > Donations and perks, the "immediate pay" options at the end of the page), you are getting paid for every block as soon as it is found and gets at few confirmations (I believe, possibly just one).

The last block that appeared in the block list when you posted was at height 237798. The block in the main chain (the "real" one) at this height was from ASICMiner, not BitMinter. Than means it was probably a stale block, and it still show as "processing" in the list until it is found to be stale. Maybe* this will happen when the next block is found, but as far as I understand, this block will never make it to the main chain and miners will not be paid for it (and it's perfectly normal because it yielded no earnings to the pool).

So, basically, I think you have not been paid in the last 8 hours because of a very unlucky round (6 hours), with an unlucky outcome (i.e. stale), followed by another unlucky round (4 hours), and while I wrote these line, we found one at height 237825 (phew!).

Now, the bad luck is probably going to end, and you will see your unconfirmed total increasing (it will be confirmed immediately if you enable the pre-pay perk w/ a small donation).

Finally, if you're not yet aware of how PPLNS works, you had to "fill" the last 10 shifts when you started mining, meaning initial revenues were lower than expected. But should you stop mining now, you will still earn revenues until you don't have any remaining work shares in the last 10 shifts, so it's a "symmetrical" delay in payments when you start/stop mining.

Hope that helps...

tl;dr: We have been very unlucky in the last 8 hours. Keep mining and with some luck your earnings will catch up with expected ones.

*edit: maybe => yes indeed!

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is "Unconfirmed Transactions" accurate?

Mine has been stuck at the same number for 8 hours, yet I see my earnings in each individual block if I go look


sorry to be so picky about this, but I have to earn back my mining hardware, in a limited time, haha

If you have the pre-paid perk enabled (My Account > Donations and perks, the "immediate pay" options at the end of the page), you are getting paid for every block as soon as it is found and gets at few confirmations (I believe, possibly just one).

The last block that appeared in the block list when you posted was at height 237798. The block in the main chain (the "real" one) at this height was from ASICMiner, not BitMinter. Than means it was probably a stale block, and it still show as "processing" in the list until it is found to be stale. Maybe* this will happen when the next block is found, but as far as I understand, this block will never make it to the main chain and miners will not be paid for it (and it's perfectly normal because it yielded no earnings to the pool).

So, basically, I think you have not been paid in the last 8 hours because of a very unlucky round (6 hours), with an unlucky outcome (i.e. stale), followed by another unlucky round (4 hours), and while I wrote these line, we found one at height 237825 (phew!).

Now, the bad luck is probably going to end, and you will see your unconfirmed total increasing (it will be confirmed immediately if you enable the pre-pay perk w/ a small donation).

Finally, if you're not yet aware of how PPLNS works, you had to "fill" the last 10 shifts when you started mining, meaning initial revenues were lower than expected. But should you stop mining now, you will still earn revenues until you don't have any remaining work shares in the last 10 shifts, so it's a "symmetrical" delay in payments when you start/stop mining.

Hope that helps...

tl;dr: We have been very unlucky in the last 8 hours. Keep mining and with some luck your earnings will catch up with expected ones.

*edit: maybe => yes indeed!

What?  How can you say such a thing?  Past "luck" has no bearing on future "luck".  If you tossed heads 25 times in a row on a nickel you may feel it to be a special nickel but it will still have a 50/50% chance of landing on tails or heads on the next toss (assuming it's not loaded or a 2 headed coin ie cheating).

In the long run (long as in 1 year of mining) the rewards so approach close to 100% of expected, but that's not to say bad or good luck won't continue.

Having said that I'm still taking offers to move away from certain pools as I can offer stats showing I am the most cursed miner  Cheesy
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May 25, 2013, 08:56:25 AM
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What?  How can you say such a thing?  Past "luck" has no bearing on future "luck".  If you tossed heads 25 times in a row on a nickel you may feel it to be a special nickel but it will still have a 50/50% chance of landing on tails or heads on the next toss (assuming it's not loaded or a 2 headed coin ie cheating).

You know it probably better than me, and you are right about the 50/50% chance of outcome when tossing a coin no matter what the past results were. But it's very subtle as you know, and if you consider a series of tosses, the odds of an "all heads" or "all tails" series is 1/n 1/(2^(n-1)) where n = number of tosses, or am I wrong? So the chance of having a series of n bad rounds is (twice) lower than n-1 bad rounds, or am I wrong again? Wink

Edit: Ahem I always sucked at math. But you get the idea, I hope Wink

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What?  How can you say such a thing?  Past "luck" has no bearing on future "luck".  If you tossed heads 25 times in a row on a nickel you may feel it to be a special nickel but it will still have a 50/50% chance of landing on tails or heads on the next toss (assuming it's not loaded or a 2 headed coin ie cheating).

You know it probably better than me, and you are right about the 50/50% chance of outcome when tossing a coin no matter what the past results were. But it's very subtle as you know, and if you consider a series of tosses, the odds of an "all heads" or "all tails" series is 1/n 1/(2^(n-1)) where n = number of tosses, or am I wrong? So the chance of having a series of n bad rounds is (twice) lower than n-1 bad rounds, or am I wrong again? Wink

Edit: Ahem I always sucked at math. But you get the idea, I hope Wink

Yes I get at what you're trying to say.  The chance of something rare happening twice is 1/rare as likely.  Akin to having lightning strike a human being twice.  But if you consider a human being who has already been struck by lightning, his chance of being hit again should be the same as you and me (assuming he doesn't have a metal scalp or something silly).

So if the first run of bad luck happened, the chance for it to happen again is now the same as it was before it happened the first time.  According to OoC the pool didn't exhibit anything that deviated significantly from the expected distribution.

All you new miners missed BTCGuild's horrible 3 month run in middle/late 2011.  So many threads were made accusing E of scamming/stealing.  And 18 months later he has to increase fees to keep people away from his pool  Cheesy

People either need to spread their mining power, accept a 8-10% fee at a PPS pool, or just live with PPLNS/Slush/DGM based scoring.
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