🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[TopTort777]

I liked how de Andrade chopped Pirrello. Pirrello was loading his left leg for a kick, and de Andrade caught he off balanced and smashed him. This guy is 27-4 with 20 KO. Strange to see him only in prelims.

Antonina Shevchenko might be very insecure to be the big sister of Valentina.

Antoninas opponent was just to good for her. O'Neill is 8-0 in MMA.

Daukaus vs Holland was a good fight. When Kyle dazed Kevin with head clash, instead of going for submission, he should have GnP him. Kevin had little time to recover, but all these submission attempt from Kyle only helped Kevin to survive. Video replay saved Hollands record from 0-3 and opportunity of being fired.

I dont like main fight. Both fighters had a lot of KO finishers in their career and I was expecting a KO.

[YuginKadoya]

Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker

I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,

Antonina Shevchenko VS Casey O'Neill

O'Neill is a real beast in the woman's division, and judging from that fight she really dominated Shevchenko no doubt about it, with experience, technique, and the all-rounder style of O'Neill really prevail in that fight, I guess a couple of fights more and Casey O'Neill could sure get a title shot that she deserves.

[Lordshiva]

Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker

I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,

Antonina Shevchenko VS Casey O'Neill

O'Neill is a real beast in the woman's division, and judging from that fight she really dominated Shevchenko no doubt about it, with experience, technique, and the all-rounder style of O'Neill really prevail in that fight, I guess a couple of fights more and Casey O'Neill could sure get a title shot that she deserves.

Yes Johnny Walker was not aggressive enough and looked a bit down in this fight, he was looking bit down on confidence and that saddenned me as well.
I really hope in the next fight he come back with more intent and more aggression.

[YuginKadoya]

Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker

I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,

Antonina Shevchenko VS Casey O'Neill

O'Neill is a real beast in the woman's division, and judging from that fight she really dominated Shevchenko no doubt about it, with experience, technique, and the all-rounder style of O'Neill really prevail in that fight, I guess a couple of fights more and Casey O'Neill could sure get a title shot that she deserves.

Yes Johnny Walker was not aggressive enough and looked a bit down in this fight, he was looking bit down on confidence and that saddenned me as well.
I really hope in the next fight he come back with more intent and more aggression.

I may have bet for Thiago Santos, but I really expected more from his opponent, there is no impact with every strike on Johnny Walker and the thing is there are many faints that surely not needed, I really wish he could have struck more to even the score I think he needs to be aggressive with Thiago Santos, I don't know for sure but his coach John Kavanagh might be behind his sudden change, but I may be wrong, but that coach of Conor McGregor really did change McGregor style aswell and fighters that needs to stick on their own style are deprive with the intension of really winning, but that is just my opinion, that is not Johnny Walker we are seeing in the octagon, but still Thiago Santos did his best and I am happy about it.

[minairia3]

Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker
I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,
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Playing this much passive cost Walker the match. He should have been playing more aggressively than what he was playing. I did not enjoy the match as much, both the players played very passively and I personally don't like that. I like aggressive matches. Maybe his coach is to blame. I think his previous playstyle was better than his current one. Let's see if things change in his next fight.

[YuginKadoya]

Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker
I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,
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Playing this much passive cost Walker the match. He should have been playing more aggressively than what he was playing. I did not enjoy the match as much, both the players played very passively and I personally don't like that. I like aggressive matches. Maybe his coach is to blame. I think his previous playstyle was better than his current one. Let's see if things change in his next fight.

Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.

[eaLiTy]

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Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.

Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker are aggressive fighters who look for a knockout with every punch they throw and not counter punchers, but in this fight there were aware of their reputation and both were cautious and so is the reason it was a boring fight even though i expected to have some fireworks and Johnny Walker who usually starts aggressive was a shell of his old self and the new coaching camp did not help him one bit.

Both Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker were not willing to take any risk and we saw a fight that we could forget in no time.

[OgNasty]

I just heard that the sugar show is on for December 11th. Looking forward to seeing him fight again. I’d really love to see him matchup with Paddy the Baddy down the line, but I don’t know if he’ll be able to put on that much weight for a fight and still be competitive. We’ll see… I think Sugar has this one on the 11th though. Might have to drop a few on the up and coming YouTube.

[bbc.reporter]

@OgNasty. I reckon Paddy the Baddy would win. Sugar Sean is only good versus fighters who do not wrestle or versus those fighters who are not good wrestlers. He is similar to Kevin Holland. I want Dana to test his pet Sugar Sean against Merab Dvalishvili.

[TopTort777]

UFC Fight Night: Dern vs. Rodriguez



Date: OCTOBER 9 , 2021
Main Card: SAT, OCT 9 / 11:00 PM EEST
Prelims: SAT, OCT 9 / 8:00 PM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN / ESPN+)
Women’s Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern vs. Marina Rodriguez            
Welterweight: Randy Brown vs. Jared Gooden            
Flyweight: Tim Elliott vs. Matheus Nicolau            
Women's Flyweight: Sabina Mazo vs. Mariya Agapova            
Middleweight: Phil Hawes vs. Deron Winn   
         
Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Bantamweight: Chris Gutiérrez vs. Felipe Colares            
Middleweight: Jamie Pickett vs. Laureano Staropoli            
Heavyweight: Alexandr Romanov vs. Jared Vanderaa            
Featherweight: Charles Rosa vs. Damon Jackson            
Women's Strawweight: Lupita Godinez vs. Sam Hughes            
Lightweight: Steve Garcia vs. Charlie Ontiveros

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Dern_vs._Rodriguez

[TheNineClub]

@OgNasty. I reckon Paddy the Baddy would win. Sugar Sean is only good versus fighters who do not wrestle or versus those fighters who are not good wrestlers. He is similar to Kevin Holland. I want Dana to test his pet Sugar Sean against Merab Dvalishvili.

Well, the first issue we have here is that they do not fight at the same weight. With how much Pimblet balloons after weigh-ins and Sean does not, I'd reckon the difference would be considreble. O'Malley works well due to his range and how lengthy he is for his weight class. That being said, if they did fight in the same weight class (fantasy MMA) I would give an advantage to O'Malley as Pimblett is too reckless and leaves too much room for Sean to capitalize with his more thought-out and levelheaded fighting style.

[YuginKadoya]

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Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.

Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker are aggressive fighters who look for a knockout with every punch they throw and not counter punchers, but in this fight there were aware of their reputation and both were cautious and so is the reason it was a boring fight even though i expected to have some fireworks and Johnny Walker who usually starts aggressive was a shell of his old self and the new coaching camp did not help him one bit.

Both Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker were not willing to take any risk and we saw a fight that we could forget in no time.

Well, we all have our speculation on what happens in the fight, I really think that Thiago is a counter puncher sometimes, and he can also be aggressive, but being cautious on the ring is not really Johnny Walkers style, and you are right that his camp didn't really help him one bit if he can surely dump his coaching camp the sooner the better because I really like to see him again with his old self, but the faints might help him in other matches, but if he could see an opening an aggressive approach might be better.

Kevin Holland VS Kyle Daukaus

I have to discuss this fight and I have recently watched this, Kevin Holland a fighter that really wants to be active inside the octagon has fought on March 20, 2021, and immediately on April 10, 2021, that both was a loss, and in this recent fight a No Contest one because of the accidental clash of their heads that have knocked Holland unconscious, when I have seen how Holland handle the situation with a sportsmanship manner I have become a fan, I really like a fighter with a humble personality, I really think he can still make it when he does not stop with his career, and the way he funnily commented DC on how long it is I really think he is a humble and funny guy, I would surely love to see him fight again.

[electronicash]

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Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.

Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker are aggressive fighters who look for a knockout with every punch they throw and not counter punchers, but in this fight there were aware of their reputation and both were cautious and so is the reason it was a boring fight even though i expected to have some fireworks and Johnny Walker who usually starts aggressive was a shell of his old self and the new coaching camp did not help him one bit.

Both Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker were not willing to take any risk and we saw a fight that we could forget in no time.

Well, we all have our speculation on what happens in the fight, I really think that Thiago is a counter puncher sometimes, and he can also be aggressive, but being cautious on the ring is not really Johnny Walkers style, and you are right that his camp didn't really help him one bit if he can surely dump his coaching camp the sooner the better because I really like to see him again with his old self, but the faints might help him in other matches, but if he could see an opening an aggressive approach might be better.

Kevin Holland VS Kyle Daukaus

I have to discuss this fight and I have recently watched this, Kevin Holland a fighter that really wants to be active inside the octagon has fought on March 20, 2021, and immediately on April 10, 2021, that both was a loss, and in this recent fight a No Contest one because of the accidental clash of their heads that have knocked Holland unconscious, when I have seen how Holland handle the situation with a sportsmanship manner I have become a fan, I really like a fighter with a humble personality, I really think he can still make it when he does not stop with his career, and the way he funnily commented DC on how long it is I really think he is a humble and funny guy, I would surely love to see him fight again.

it was scary to watch both santos and walker got inside the cage,  i knew one could drop instantly but the two show they can be very careful to last til the decision. expectation not met but enjoyed it.

been a fan of holland too since the time he knocked someone while on the ground, i think he did this twice in his career in mma.

i was really expecting him to win in that match if it werent for that accidental headbutt, i think he will really win. he handled it well despite it.  we'll be seeing him again.

[minairia3]

Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker
I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,
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Playing this much passive cost Walker the match. He should have been playing more aggressively than what he was playing. I did not enjoy the match as much, both the players played very passively and I personally don't like that. I like aggressive matches. Maybe his coach is to blame. I think his previous playstyle was better than his current one. Let's see if things change in his next fight.

Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.

Yes, I get that about Santos that he is a counter puncher but Walker's change of pace amazed me and I feel this will not help him that much playing this much passive. But that is also too early to say, we might need a see more fights to come to a conclusion about the coach if he's good enough or not. Till then we can't say anything for sure.

[notblox1]

I had free time and I watched all UFC event and I think that main event was very boring, it seems that Thiago Santos is the reason for boring fights.
It's shame that Kyle Daukaus didn't win against Kevin Holland because of head kick and no content, but I hear that Holland prevented some street robbery after that, so all respect to him.

[YuginKadoya]

it was scary to watch both santos and walker got inside the cage,  i knew one could drop instantly but the two show they can be very careful to last til the decision. expectation not met but enjoyed it.

been a fan of holland too since the time he knocked someone while on the ground, i think he did this twice in his career in mma.

i was really expecting him to win in that match if it werent for that accidental headbutt, i think he will really win. he handled it well despite it.  we'll be seeing him again.

It was ok for me to watch them and really expected Thiago Santos winning it, but I never really expected how Johnny Walker did and with his new fighting style of fainting hit, I think it will be very effective if executed properly and often times he would surely let the strike fly at Thiago Santos, but still kudos for both fighters.

I was expecting Holland to win aswell, DC was commenting on his performance while he's replying to DC at the same time while fighting was really fun to watch you would know that he has control over the fight, But unexpected things surely happen, but respect to the guy.

Yes, I get that about Santos that he is a counter puncher but Walker's change of pace amazed me and I feel this will not help him that much playing this much passive. But that is also too early to say, we might need a see more fights to come to a conclusion about the coach if he's good enough or not. Till then we can't say anything for sure.

All I can say is he could surely apply what he learn from his new coach, but it just varies to the situation, and we can not expect him to apply it and be good at it on his first try, he surely need a sparing partner to apply it more often, and with a fighter like Thiago Santos, I think an aggressive approach is most likely what he needs to to.

I had free time and I watched all UFC event and I think that main event was very boring, it seems that Thiago Santos is the reason for boring fights.
It's shame that Kyle Daukaus didn't win against Kevin Holland because of head kick and no content, but I hear that Holland prevented some street robbery after that, so all respect to him.

In my opinion it is not really boring just in my perspective, it is just his style, and I am expecting Walker to comply in an aggressive manner but he is more cautious and fainting strikes all the time, that made the fight more boring, but still I am good about it, because Thiago did won,

Well, I never expect Holland did something like that, after that unexpected heatbut and being all OK with it respect to him, but that preventing a street robber he should be more careful because he might never know what may happen.

[Welsh]

It's a shame about the Kevin Holland VS Kyle Daukaus match up, I had a bet riding on a Daukaus decision, and I had him up until that nasty head clash. I'm glad it was made a no contest though, because it did significantly change the fight, and I'm somewhat glad that it led to a finish so that they wouldn't carry on the fight the same night, since you never know how concussions can influence the fight. I expect them to be fighting in a few weeks if Holland is cleared without any issues.

I'll be honest this weekend's fights I'm not looking forward to probably one of the only cards in recent times I'm thinking about missing. Though, I'll be honest those are the ones which usually turn out to be bangers. Thinking the Fury fight will take precedence though, I haven't checked the time that it's suppose to be happening yet, but I believe it's in America so I'm assuming it'll be a late one for me.

[Bttzed03]

~ I'm glad it was made a no contest though, because it did significantly change the fight, and I'm somewhat glad that it led to a finish so that they wouldn't carry on the fight the same night, since you never know how concussions can influence the fight. I expect them to be fighting in a few weeks if Holland is cleared without any issues.

While Holland was all class on the incident, Daukaus acting like an ass in his post-fight interview It shouldn't have been ruled a no-contest he says. I don't know if he still feels that way after watching the replay and seeing how Holland landed on the ground face-first. How he still managed to stay conscious from that was impressive on its own.

Anyway, I haven't seen any announcement for a rematch yet.

[TopTort777]

Anyway, I haven't seen any announcement for a rematch yet.

I don't expect for a rematch to happen. Kyle Daukaus is not even in top of middleweight. Kevin Holland is on top14. Loosing do Daukaus will move Holland out from the top. While a victory wont give him anything. Both fighters are not very significant stars in UFC to organize a rematch. I doubt that there are such fans that impatiently waiting for their rematch.

[Bttzed03]

Anyway, I haven't seen any announcement for a rematch yet.

I don't expect for a rematch to happen. Kyle Daukaus is not even in top of middleweight. Kevin Holland is on top14. Loosing do Daukaus will move Holland out from the top. While a victory wont give him anything. Both fighters are not very significant stars in UFC to organize a rematch. I doubt that there are such fans that impatiently waiting for their rematch.

They're not names and Daekaus isn't in the top rank but none of that matters now because their first fight already took place. With how it ended, a rematch is bound to happen and the only question is when. It could be as an undercard on one of those UFC fight nights.