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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734877 times)
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September 06, 2014, 03:59:25 AM
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Whenever they declare a "ceasefire" it's obviously just for show. Meanwhile, shelling and combat continue.

Kind of like how when rebels declare a safety corridor, they end up killing hundreds of people passing through it, including Russian POWs?

Near Mariupol the 9th battalion of a brigade of the Russian army from Nizhni-Novgorod was destroyed completely by the Ukrainian air force. No wonder Putin wants a no-fly-agreement as part of the truce.



http://rusjev.net/2014/09/04/pod-mariupolem-segodnya-sgorela-rossiyskaya-tankovaya-rota/

Lol, it seems that you've been caught pushing fake info once again. Below are the two photos from the site with full resolution:



These are obviously not even same locations. Note the burning Russian military stuff is in front of a row of trees with houses, while the burning Ukrainian truck is in front of a forest without houses. There is more than just one field in that country, you know.
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September 06, 2014, 04:14:16 AM
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LOL, is that so? Then she must be a prostitute too, only higher price...
Not necessary, politics is a dirty business anyway.
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September 06, 2014, 04:24:48 AM
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Very glad to hear about those low poll numbers! Especially if they came from Russia! Since it would mean that in reality a huge majority of Ukrainians are supporting their new government, and support defending the country against the Russian invasion.

Curious what those separatists will do when they get to Mariupol, a city that doesn't want them. Will they leave them alone, or "liberate" them by force?

By the way, I spoke to my Ukrainian contact in Kiev recently. Kiev is quiet, there are no protests, and haven't been any for a while now, people are OK with their new government and are mostly worried about Russia coming in further into the country, and there are A LOT of refugees from Eastern Ukraine there. School just started, and classes that typically have 20 to 25 kids per class are now crammed with 47 to 50 kids per class. For a major city with a population of 2.78 million, to have just their number of kids double suggests that there may be as many as a million reffugies in that city alone. Considering Russian media report of 800,000 refugees going into Russia, and that Russia always lies by stating the opposite of the truth, I guess there are now 800,000 refugees in Kiev.

I generally oppose military involvement, but I kinda wish Ukraine could resolve this situation by announcing that all Ukrainian military who wants to stop breaking international laws should pull back into Kiev, then sail a Ukrainian USS Nimitz class aircraft carrier into the Black Sea, and launch a whole bunch of Ukrainian Patriot Missiles and Ukrainian F18 SuperHornets to shred ALL military equipment that is still there, obviously only owned by the evil Ukrainians who refuse to stop bombing civilians, into scrap metal. Along with anyone who is in or near them. Because obviously there won't be any Russians there.
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September 06, 2014, 05:12:10 AM
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Kind of like how when rebels declare a safety corridor, they end up killing hundreds of people passing through it, including Russian POWs?

The Kiev forces tried to act like they are over-smart and they got their asses kicked. The rebels were very clear when they said that the soldiers are not allowed to take any of their heavy weaponry on their route to Russia. But the over-confident Kiev forces took all their APCs and tanks and tried to storm their way to the Russian checkpoint. Got scorched by the rebel artillery barrage.
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September 06, 2014, 06:37:22 AM
Last edit: September 06, 2014, 07:22:02 AM by myshownow
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LOL, is that so? Then she must be a prostitute too, only higher price...
Not necessary, politics is a dirty business anyway.


Nearly all politicians, in varying degrees,  are prostitutes of the shadow players who are using them for their darker ends...(America is under the control of the Empire, its aging mama san ... and that is what is good of Russia, it is independent, so kudos to your President for being one of the few exceptions among the prostitute politicians that lick the boots of the Anglo-Zionist empire, e.g. tops are the EU slaves- though the major ones are at least, struggling to be free).

It could also be she has realized the shifting tide and wants to save her own skin... Only a fool can fail to see what is waiting for Kolomoyski anytime. Both Putin and Porky have him in their line of sight... not to mention the UKrainians who are beginning to regain their courage now that the presumption of power by the junta has been broken...

It's thugs like Kolomoyski who prostituted the UKrainian people by manipulating the Galician delusion of grandeur so the Anglo-Zionist villains can include the UKrainians in their long line of hapless victims, e.g. Iraqis, Libyans, South Americans, etc.



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September 06, 2014, 07:54:23 AM
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I do not think that the west want peace,they want to overthrow Putin and start haos in Russia

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/08/how_to_solve_the_putin_problem.html

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September 06, 2014, 08:14:54 AM
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-crisis-what-if-novorossiya-were-full-of-texicans/5399510
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September 06, 2014, 08:17:36 AM
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I do not think that the west want peace,they want to overthrow Putin and start haos in Russia

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/08/how_to_solve_the_putin_problem.html


That's how desperate the Anglo-Zionist villains are. That betrays their panic. Don't worry, they will become bankrupt soon so they will all be sent to the mental asylum before they can do anything. Putin is walking all over them anyway, these morons can't believe they are simply being outclassed.




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September 06, 2014, 08:21:47 AM
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These are obviously not even same locations. Note the burning Russian military stuff is in front of a row of trees with houses, while the burning Ukrainian truck is in front of a forest without houses. There is more than just one field in that country, you know.


Are you kidding? It is the same location. The white spot on the second photo (near the left side of the photo) is a corner of a house on the first. And look at the horizon line, it is the same as the trees near the burning truck. But if you're still in doubts, watch the video (I don't know where you saw forest there)...

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September 06, 2014, 08:36:36 AM
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Whenever they declare a "ceasefire" it's obviously just for show. Meanwhile, shelling and combat continue.

Kind of like how when rebels declare a safety corridor, they end up killing hundreds of people passing through it, including Russian POWs?

Near Mariupol the 9th battalion of a brigade of the Russian army from Nizhni-Novgorod was destroyed completely by the Ukrainian air force. No wonder Putin wants a no-fly-agreement as part of the truce.



http://rusjev.net/2014/09/04/pod-mariupolem-segodnya-sgorela-rossiyskaya-tankovaya-rota/

Lol, it seems that you've been caught pushing fake info once again. Below are the two photos from the site with full resolution:



These are obviously not even same locations. Note the burning Russian military stuff is in front of a row of trees with houses, while the burning Ukrainian truck is in front of a forest without houses. There is more than just one field in that country, you know.


Apparently seems the same place but with shots taken from different perspectives (spots).

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September 06, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
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Whenever they declare a "ceasefire" it's obviously just for show. Meanwhile, shelling and combat continue.

Kind of like how when rebels declare a safety corridor, they end up killing hundreds of people passing through it, including Russian POWs?

Near Mariupol the 9th battalion of a brigade of the Russian army from Nizhni-Novgorod was destroyed completely by the Ukrainian air force. No wonder Putin wants a no-fly-agreement as part of the truce.

http://rusjev.net/2014/09/04/pod-mariupolem-segodnya-sgorela-rossiyskaya-tankovaya-rota/

Lol, it seems that you've been caught pushing fake info once again. Below are the two photos from the site with full resolution:

These are obviously not even same locations. Note the burning Russian military stuff is in front of a row of trees with houses, while the burning Ukrainian truck is in front of a forest without houses. There is more than just one field in that country, you know.

Apparently seems the same place but with shots taken from different perspectives (spots).

There is another video proving it all. But someone here is evidently indulging in wishful thinking...

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September 06, 2014, 09:03:41 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEa8BoAFeK4

Lugansk Airport

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September 06, 2014, 12:02:33 PM
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birds are singing a chemical attack provocation:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-and-kiev-junta-planning-a-false-flag-chemical-attack-in-east-ukraine-the-plan-is-to-place-the-blame-on-russia/5399387
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September 06, 2014, 12:14:44 PM
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These guys are not inventive all around the world same pattern,it is clear who is the grand master of mayhem

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September 06, 2014, 12:31:27 PM
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I'm kind of disappointed to see that Rassah is so biased.

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For a major city with a population of 2.78 million, to have just their number of kids double suggests that there may be as many as a million reffugies in that city alone.
Can you imagine a city whose population increased by more than a third in a couple of months? It would be a humanitarian crisis.

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Considering Russian media report of 800,000 refugees going into Russia, and that Russia always lies by stating the opposite of the truth, I guess there are now 800,000 refugees in Kiev.
Very strong bias, well done. I really like these wild guesses by the way, they might appear in Ukrainian mass-media soon. Just post it somewhere at facebook Smiley
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September 06, 2014, 12:43:28 PM
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Reposting for Nemo. He obviously forgot to reply. It's understandable that when someone has no answer, they conveniently act offended in order to avoid responsibility. Typical.

Well, back on ignore with you, I guess...

What difference does it make when you ignore my questions regardless:

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Do you also deny that the Russians continued to occupy places like Poland and East Germany with military bases as recently as the 1980s?

Well, do you deny it? Do ya?

Who were the military bases defending? If not Moscow, then who? Warsaw?

World War 2 had been over for decades, so why did the Russian soldiers still refuse to go home?

And what kind of Voodoo black magic occurred in the 1989 era that former USSR satellite states, which truly loved Moscow, somehow turned to the evil West and everyone had their brains suddenly washed?

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A warlord of the pen, maybe. They do say that pen is mightier than a sword. Thanks for a laugh. Though I don't exactly see where I was posturing as a warlord... Well, back on ignore with you, I guess...

No, you are an ignorant cretin with an internet connection, who embarrasses your own country on a daily basis. Congratulations!

Answer my question, fucker.
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September 06, 2014, 12:50:49 PM
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Russian lies and hypocrisy were plastered all over Central and Eastern Europe in the form of military bases and puppet states, which were violently forced to adopt Communism against their own will. And this happened on a continuous basis for decades, long after WW2 had finished. And now, we're expected to believe Russian lies that they are not present in Ukraine?

"But it's not possible. If Russia attacked, Ukraine would be completely destroyed within 24 hours. Therefore, the Russians are not there."

Don't insult everyone's intelligence! Angry
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September 06, 2014, 12:54:39 PM
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And now, we're expected to believe Russian lies that they are not present in Ukraine?
No, but you're expected to show some solid proof that they're there. Of course if you don't want your intelligence to be insulted. If there's anything left to be insulted.
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September 06, 2014, 12:58:36 PM
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Very strong bias, well done. I really like these wild guesses by the way, they might appear in Ukrainian mass-media soon. Just post it somewhere at facebook Smiley

It was reported by the UN agencies, not the Russian media. Some 800,000 in total are now residing in Russia (almost one-sixth of the population of Donbass), of that some 25% have already applied for refugee status (that means that they have no plans to return to Donbass anytime soon). I have gone through both Russian media sources and the Western media sources during this conflict. I have found that the Western sources have been far too biased, when compared to the Russian ones.
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September 06, 2014, 01:05:06 PM
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And now, we're expected to believe Russian lies that they are not present in Ukraine?
No, but you're expected to show some solid proof that they're there.

How much more proof do you need? I cannot heal your blindness if you choose not to see.

This thread has over 200 pages of evidence, including evidence of Russians being brainwashed idiots who refuse to believe anything unless it comes from Putin's mouth.
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