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February 07, 2025, 03:29:39 PM
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Having the Super Eagles loosing to such team is really disheartening because theses teams do not have the same qualities as the Super Eagless and so I was thinking they will not even have to struggle  with with such teams as they are seen like a weak side in the whole of African football and so they shouldn't be having issues trying to stay ahead of these team, at any time.

Winning games isn't always about who has the better squad individually but about which nation plays better together as a team to achieve the goal of winning the game and tournament that they're participating in. This is why we see teams that have more of local league players dominating our tournament and not teams full of foreign players as Nigeria always is. I have always said that the super eagles has alot of individual players that they're all exceptional and have their qualities but they lack the chemistry between players. The last time we had chemistry in the team, we won the AFCON and that was a long time ago. The manager have to build that unionism between the players and make them play as one and not individually because that has be your major problem.
Boss what Chemical Reaction doing in the football game? The last tournament Nigeria Super Eagles won was 2013. And after that Trophy there is no victory till now. They tried in the AFCONQ but I was expecting them to do more than that. In the WORLD Cup Qualifiers, the Coach has promised to qualify and some of the players also vow to do well in the tournament so let us wait and see their performance in the field. As for the players we have international players in Super Eagles, and if the management is good they will do well. And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.



I think this attack on Jay Jay okocha is wrong and is unwarranted because he only spoke out what he feels what wrong that was going on in Nigerian football administration especially under this NFF that is running Nigerian football as their personal business because the circumstances leading to the appointment of this new coach that the NFF employed is shady and what is the pedigree of the coach this current board of NFF is more concerned about what they can get rather than developing football in the country so okocha speaking out is in order the fact remains that the way forward for Nigerian football development is not hiring a foreign coach that we will use huge money to pay and not do anything in terms of improving the quality of play and performance of the team the current situation of super eagles is traceable to the kind of foreign coaches that we have had in the past that where more concerned about getting their salary more than their work

One thing about Nigerian is that we don't like saying the truth and speak up in the face of oppression or when we see a wrong thing victor ekpeba is attacking okocha because he is a member of the NFF committee so he is currently benefiting that is why he is trying to defend his job but we all know that okocha is saying the truth


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February 08, 2025, 03:54:59 PM
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In the WORLD Cup Qualifiers, the Coach has promised to qualify and some of the players also vow to do well in the tournament so let us wait and see their performance in the field. As for the players we have international players in Super Eagles, and if the management is good they will do well. And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.


I absolutely do. It's so simple  a disorganized organization can't be able to achieve any success. NFF has been a disorganized  organization for years as corruption, selfish motive, bribery, and prejudice has engolf them. If they can't be able to fist wipe all the bad eggs in the organization and start setting standards and stop favoritism then Nigeria can grow as a footballing country and dominate Africa and beyond.
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February 08, 2025, 06:33:51 PM
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I absolutely do. It's so simple  a disorganized organization can't be able to achieve any success. NFF has been a disorganized  organization for years as corruption, selfish motive, bribery, and prejudice has engolf them. If they can't be able to fist wipe all the bad eggs in the organization and start setting standards and stop favoritism then Nigeria can grow as a footballing country and dominate Africa and beyond.
I have said this in this thread many times. Because of corruption and nepotism, NFF and even the teams under that organizations can't do well. I thought when the Sport Ministry changed hand from the Ministry to Commission, things would change to good but corruption do noy allow the organization to grow. Right it is Sport Commission and no longer Sport Ministry again. Jay Jay was an insider and he knew what was happening and presently he has boys playing in the team so he has first hand information about the team. Before he came out to said this, he had discussed it with some of the key management in the organization/commission but things are remain the same so with anger that he came out to said this. And for those of us that understand what is happening in the commission agreed with him. And  what said is the only solution to the Super Eagles problem. All the politicians should be removed from the commission and let the sports men who have retired should occupy the position in the management.

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February 08, 2025, 06:46:38 PM
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In the WORLD Cup Qualifiers, the Coach has promised to qualify and some of the players also vow to do well in the tournament so let us wait and see their performance in the field. As for the players we have international players in Super Eagles, and if the management is good they will do well. And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.

I see energy in the Super Eagles coach and I believe he will keep to his words, the players need to work with the coach to get a good result in the world cup qualifying Series. We have very young and talented players just that they get discouraged sometimes when they are not appreciated handsomely for the efforts they are putting to make the team stand firm. What Jay Jay Okocha said is true, politics has really beclouded the Super Eagles such that many top Politicians are now invading the team and imposing players that are not worthy enough to feature in matches. Most of our players are doing pretty good in their respective leagues and I believe they will extend same strength in the world qualifying matches.

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February 08, 2025, 08:18:53 PM
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And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.
I don't know what politics Jay Jay is referring to, i don't think politics is affecting our players in anyway, the best players are usually called up to the national team and it is up to them to perform when they are on the field. The NFF, just like every organization worldwide has its own flaws that they should work on, but solely blaming them for the condition we find ourselves in the world cup qualifiers is unacceptable, i also do not think this is the right time for Jay Jay to be saying this, just before a huge world cup qualifying clash.

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February 08, 2025, 08:41:10 PM
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And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.
I don't know what politics Jay Jay is referring to, i don't think politics is affecting our players in anyway, the best players are usually called up to the national team and it is up to them to perform when they are on the field. The NFF, just like every organization worldwide has its own flaws that they should work on, but solely blaming them for the condition we find ourselves in the world cup qualifiers is unacceptable, i also do not think this is the right time for Jay Jay to be saying this, just before a huge world cup qualifying clash.
From the look of things, the Super Eagles have always had the best players from clubs in Europe. So I would agree with you that there is no high rate of favouritism in the selection process. But politics/corruption exist in the selection of coaches, choosing of friendly games and allocation of resources. It's been a long since the Super Eagles played a friendly game with a top national team and this might be because the NFF wants to cut costs and syphon others.

But I accept Jay Jay Okocha's view that football administration should be handled by experienced footballers/administrators instead of it to be controlled by greedy politicians.

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February 08, 2025, 09:01:11 PM
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And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.
I don't know what politics Jay Jay is referring to, i don't think politics is affecting our players in anyway, the best players are usually called up to the national team and it is up to them to perform when they are on the field. The NFF, just like every organization worldwide has its own flaws that they should work on, but solely blaming them for the condition we find ourselves in the world cup qualifiers is unacceptable, i also do not think this is the right time for Jay Jay to be saying this, just before a huge world cup qualifying clash.
What about the management? With the qualities of players in our national club, i honestly review very outstanding players that fit's to drive the team to qualify for every competition in fact win us the AFCON, Nigeria has the best strikers not just but the appropriate wingers for each game now tell me why then are we struggling to qualify for the World Cup.

Our squad quality might be right but we need a more experience not a push and do management, we don't know about the partnership between every new signed coaches but i feel they always option for those they can pocket. We have no say in the current coach so we get to manage and hope the best to happen as he promised to help qualify for the World Cup.



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 #1728

I don't know what politics Jay Jay is referring to, i don't think politics is affecting our players in anyway, the best players are usually called up to the national team and it is up to them to perform when they are on the field. The NFF, just like every organization worldwide has its own flaws that they should work on, but solely blaming them for the condition we find ourselves in the world cup qualifiers is unacceptable, i also do not think this is the right time for Jay Jay to be saying this, just before a huge world cup qualifying clash.
Jay Jay said that from experienced and we are arguing from afar. And I believed it was from the change of the Augustine Eguavoen to Éric Chelle causes the rise of all those statements. Many Nigerians were not pleased with the change. We will know more about the coach in his first game in next month.
And why many Nigerians were against the employment was, Eric Chelle was the head coach of Mali Senior Men National Team, and what happened to Finidi George by losing all his games in the World Cup Qualifiers happened to him as well. So the question arose. Why a coach that could not made Mali to Qualify in the same World Cup was employed to coach the team with the same mandate? So people started seeing politics in the management.

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February 08, 2025, 09:16:54 PM
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In the WORLD Cup Qualifiers, the Coach has promised to qualify and some of the players also vow to do well in the tournament so let us wait and see their performance in the field. As for the players we have international players in Super Eagles, and if the management is good they will do well. And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.


Jay-Jay Okocha is an ex-international of the Nigeria Super Eagles and for a player that spent so many years representing the West African country, I think he actually knows what he's saying because he already understands the system. The politicians in the country have influenced some of the major policies of the national team including which players that should be called up. It's high time the football administrators of the national team starts to make decisions by merit instead of allowing politicians to direct them on what they would do. The Super Eagles is the most talented squad in Africa but favoritism that's powered by politicians and some other actions of the politicians are the reasons the country isn't dominating African football and also ranking as one of the top 10 in the world
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February 08, 2025, 09:20:53 PM
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And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.
I don't know what politics Jay Jay is referring to, i don't think politics is affecting our players in anyway, the best players are usually called up to the national team and it is up to them to perform when they are on the field. The NFF, just like every organization worldwide has its own flaws that they should work on, but solely blaming them for the condition we find ourselves in the world cup qualifiers is unacceptable, i also do not think this is the right time for Jay Jay to be saying this, just before a huge world cup qualifying clash.

May be it's time we ask ourselves this question before we start taking sides in this current situation, do you think Jay Jay will wake up one morning to speak up when he has not been informed about something or when he has not experienced the same thing in the National team, I think the answer is no. Politics is everywhere in the Super Eagles team and the NFF knows exactly what that young man is saying that's why you see them demanding for an apology from him so that they can silently kill the message he has passed across. I think we deserve to applude Jay Jay for having the mind to speak up because the NFF has gradually killed the national team if not for the intervention of the senior players who is giving their all to ensure the team is still what it is today.

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February 08, 2025, 09:21:34 PM
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What about the management? With the qualities of players in our national club, i honestly review very outstanding players that fit's to drive the team to qualify for every competition in fact win us the AFCON, Nigeria has the best strikers not just but the appropriate wingers for each game now tell me why then are we struggling to qualify for the World Cup.

Our squad quality might be right but we need a more experience not a push and do management, we don't know about the partnership between every new signed coaches but i feel they always option for those they can pocket. We have no say in the current coach so we get to manage and hope the best to happen as he promised to help qualify for the World Cup.
Most Nigerians including me feel that the appointment of Éric Sékou Chelle is a big blunder. We had expected the NFF to hire a European coach or settle for an experienced Indigenous coach. I think we have passed the stage of criticism because we cannot do anything about it.

We cannot continue talking down on a coach that we have not tried. He has to be given the opportunity to prove himself. He is currently going around Europe interacting with Nigerian players. We shouldn't forget how Emerse Faé led Cote d'Ivoire to glory in the just concluded AFCON after the sack of a foreign coach. He could become one of the best coaches the Super Eagles have ever had.

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February 08, 2025, 09:53:32 PM
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What about the management? With the qualities of players in our national club, i honestly review very outstanding players that fit's to drive the team to qualify for every competition in fact win us the AFCON, Nigeria has the best strikers not just but the appropriate wingers for each game now tell me why then are we struggling to qualify for the World Cup.

Our squad quality might be right but we need a more experience not a push and do management, we don't know about the partnership between every new signed coaches but i feel they always option for those they can pocket. We have no say in the current coach so we get to manage and hope the best to happen as he promised to help qualify for the World Cup.
Most Nigerians including me feel that the appointment of Éric Sékou Chelle is a big blunder. We had expected the NFF to hire a European coach or settle for an experienced Indigenous coach. I think we have passed the stage of criticism because we cannot do anything about it.

We cannot continue talking down on a coach that we have not tried. He has to be given the opportunity to prove himself. He is currently going around Europe interacting with Nigerian players. We shouldn't forget how Emerse Faé led Cote d'Ivoire to glory in the just concluded AFCON after the sack of a foreign coach. He could become one of the best coaches the Super Eagles have ever had.
The problem is not about the coach proving himself but people are actually talking about this matter because they are really concerned about what happens in Nigerian football because the fact is in the next three years this coach will go and Nigerian football especially the senior national team will still be there so bringing an indigenous coach that will blend the talents we have in our Nigeria premier League and foreign based players would have been the best

The fact of the matter is that all foreign managers in the African continent especially those not from Africa is not serious about developing football in these countries that they are employed but is only concern about what they can get from the contract that they signed and African football especially Nigeria is not growing because of the rate and manner that foreign managers are been hired


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February 09, 2025, 05:21:24 AM
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The problem is not about the coach proving himself but people are actually talking about this matter because they are really concerned about what happens in Nigerian football because the fact is in the next three years this coach will go and Nigerian football especially the senior national team will still be there so bringing an indigenous coach that will blend the talents we have in our Nigeria premier League and foreign based players would have been the best
The fish starts rotting from the head. The kind of government we have in our country reflects on the NFF. The people in charge of the Football Federation are politicians instead of people with in-depth knowledge of football administration. They are just there to make money fraudulently.

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The fact of the matter is that all foreign managers in the African continent especially those not from Africa is not serious about developing football in these countries that they are employed but is only concern about what they can get from the contract that they signed and African football especially Nigeria is not growing because of the rate and manner that foreign managers are been hired
You don't judge a book by its cover. Give the French-Malian coach the oppurtunty to prove himself. He might not be the best choice for us considering that Nigeria has more qualified coaches but the NFF took a boos step to hired an African instead of a European. Let's give him a chance and if he fails to prove himself, criticism will continue.

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February 09, 2025, 08:11:34 AM
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In the WORLD Cup Qualifiers, the Coach has promised to qualify and some of the players also vow to do well in the tournament so let us wait and see their performance in the field. As for the players we have international players in Super Eagles, and if the management is good they will do well. And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.


Jay-Jay Okocha is an ex-international of the Nigeria Super Eagles and for a player that spent so many years representing the West African country, I think he actually knows what he's saying because he already understands the system. The politicians in the country have influenced some of the major policies of the national team including which players that should be called up. It's high time the football administrators of the national team starts to make decisions by merit instead of allowing politicians to direct them on what they would do. The Super Eagles is the most talented squad in Africa but favoritism that's powered by politicians and some other actions of the politicians are the reasons the country isn't dominating African football and also ranking as one of the top 10 in the world
On thing most Nigerian football fan didn't know is that Jay Jay okocha was an ex international, he knows so many things we as Nigerian football fans don't know, so it would be very easy for him to know where the problem of the super eagles is coming from, and those set's of people calling for him to apologize is as pathetic as the Nigerian NFF, because bad people are getting more sophisticated everyday in our society because people that should be stopping them by speaking out are stay silent, so tell me why they wouldn't be emboldened to do more evil?

Let's look at this coach that was hired, with his current standard and profile, he has no business being the manager of our super eagles, when their are so many better manager out their and even in our country, so are we going forward or backward, so those pathetic fellow messaging him to apologize should just let the young man be, because in my own opinion, all that he said was the truth.

 
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February 09, 2025, 08:32:24 AM
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On thing most Nigerian football fan didn't know is that Jay Jay okocha was an ex international, he knows so many things we as Nigerian football fans don't know, so it would be very easy for him to know where the problem of the super eagles is coming from, and those set's of people calling for him to apologize is as pathetic as the Nigerian NFF, because bad people are getting more sophisticated everyday in our society because people that should be stopping them by speaking out are stay silent, so tell me why they wouldn't be emboldened to do more evil?

Let's look at this coach that was hired, with his current standard and profile, he has no business being the manager of our super eagles, when their are so many better manager out their and even in our country, so are we going forward or backward, so those pathetic fellow messaging him to apologize should just let the young man be, because in my own opinion, all that he said was the truth.

Let stop being sentimental as far as this issue is concerned bro. Jay Jay is a respected personality in Super eagle actually but there are issues that doesn't really need his opinion. He is entitle to his own opinion of course but it's not necessary because it'll end up being misinterpreted differently just like this very one. Moreover, this is not the first time Nigeria is appointing an outsider to coach super eagle so I don't know why this very one is raising issues where there is none.

I think we should already realise that Africa countries at large don't value their own stars but always prefer outsiders. Other African countries have one time appointed Nigeria indigene as their head coach and no one says a word. It would be wise for us to wait and see what the newly coach has to offer before we begin our criticism.

As for NFF, it has been politicize long before now and not only the managerial crew affected by this politics but including the players playing in the super eagle are beneficiary of this politics agenda.











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February 09, 2025, 05:24:04 PM
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Jay-Jay Okocha is an ex-international of the Nigeria Super Eagles and for a player that spent so many years representing the West African country, I think he actually knows what he's saying because he already understands the system. The politicians in the country have influenced some of the major policies of the national team including which players that should be called up. It's high time the football administrators of the national team starts to make decisions by merit instead of allowing politicians to direct them on what they would do. The Super Eagles is the most talented squad in Africa but favoritism that's powered by politicians and some other actions of the politicians are the reasons the country isn't dominating African football and also ranking as one of the top 10 in the world
Okocha for me is in the best position to give any advice whatsoever to the NFF and he's deserving of a listening ear because he's definitely speaking from a place of experience and understanding of what the football business is and should be but then I just wish they will give him the deserving listening ears as it will be of grate help to them and may help them do even better than they have done before now.

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February 09, 2025, 05:24:51 PM
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What about the management? With the qualities of players in our national club, i honestly review very outstanding players that fit's to drive the team to qualify for every competition in fact win us the AFCON, Nigeria has the best strikers not just but the appropriate wingers for each game now tell me why then are we struggling to qualify for the World Cup.

Our squad quality might be right but we need a more experience not a push and do management, we don't know about the partnership between every new signed coaches but i feel they always option for those they can pocket. We have no say in the current coach so we get to manage and hope the best to happen as he promised to help qualify for the World Cup.
Most Nigerians including me feel that the appointment of Éric Sékou Chelle is a big blunder. We had expected the NFF to hire a European coach or settle for an experienced Indigenous coach. I think we have passed the stage of criticism because we cannot do anything about it.

We cannot continue talking down on a coach that we have not tried. He has to be given the opportunity to prove himself. He is currently going around Europe interacting with Nigerian players. We shouldn't forget how Emerse Faé led Cote d'Ivoire to glory in the just concluded AFCON after the sack of a foreign coach. He could become one of the best coaches the Super Eagles have ever had.
Actions can speak louder, he has to do better coaching a country's team that is superior in terms of squad depth and the result we would love to get under a new management, merely looking he does not fit in and the only way he changes our perception is modifying where we are and managing the club so we can qualify for the World Cup. If we don't make it, i won't totally put the blame on him because the past coaches played huge roles in keeping us tight where we barely are opportune to qualify.

Let's see for ourselves when the games begin, "he might" just under probability, in all the same i always will love to see my country do better in every competition no matter the management, it should be a win for all.



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February 09, 2025, 05:52:24 PM
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Okocha for me is in the best position to give any advice whatsoever to the NFF and he's deserving of a listening ear because he's definitely speaking from a place of experience and understanding of what the football business is and should be but then I just wish they will give him the deserving listening ears as it will be of grate help to them and may help them do even better than they have done before now.
The Super Eagles of Nigeria is actually one of the best team in the entire Africa, they have the best players in almost all positions in football, their players are world class and have good teams; they generally have more players in the Europe Top teams than any other teams in the Africa right now, but favoritism and selfishness is one of the main reason the team is not progressing, and the way the Super Eagles and NFF are changing coaches can also contribute to the poor for of the Super Eagles  team and that is why the their ranking in the world keeps dropping.

Having legends like Okocha, Neako Kano, and others to be advising the team on what to do and how to go is better and can help the new coach and the players can get motivated to perform very well for their nation because it is time for the Super Eagles of Nigeria to prove to the world that they have the best players in the continent.

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February 09, 2025, 06:00:29 PM
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In the WORLD Cup Qualifiers, the Coach has promised to qualify and some of the players also vow to do well in the tournament so let us wait and see their performance in the field. As for the players we have international players in Super Eagles, and if the management is good they will do well. And from what I observed, what Jay Jay Okocha said is the truth, if they remove politics from the team, the boys will do well.


I absolutely do. It's so simple  a disorganized organization can't be able to achieve any success. NFF has been a disorganized  organization for years as corruption, selfish motive, bribery, and prejudice has engolf them. If they can't be able to fist wipe all the bad eggs in the organization and start setting standards and stop favoritism then Nigeria can grow as a footballing country and dominate Africa and beyond.
It will be very hard for these things you have mentioned above to go away from the NFF. Jay Jay is right about what he said, about politicians having their way in the NFF. But the politicians cannot go away because they have seen that the NFF are making so much money from football, so there is no way the NFF can get better, any time soon. At least not in this present Nigeria. Maybe we can expect that in the future. Even if the current NFF president resigns today, the next person that will be appointed will  still be more corrupt than the former. Is like the government of the day doesn't want anyone that will do well in any position that they are appointed. We have politicised everything in this part of the world, we don't go for credibility anymore, but someone who is loyal and can bring returns. NFF can't grow in this way.

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I absolutely do. It's so simple  a disorganized organization can't be able to achieve any success. NFF has been a disorganized  organization for years as corruption, selfish motive, bribery, and prejudice has engolf them. If they can't be able to fist wipe all the bad eggs in the organization and start setting standards and stop favoritism then Nigeria can grow as a footballing country and dominate Africa and beyond.
It will be very hard for these things you have mentioned above to go away from the NFF. Jay Jay is right about what he said, about politicians having their way in the NFF. But the politicians cannot go away because they have seen that the NFF are making so much money from football, so there is no way the NFF can get better, any time soon. At least not in this present Nigeria. Maybe we can expect that in the future. Even if the current NFF president resigns today, the next person that will be appointed will  still be more corrupt than the former. Is like the government of the day doesn't want anyone that will do well in any position that they are appointed. We have politicised everything in this part of the world, we don't go for credibility anymore, but someone who is loyal and can bring returns. NFF can't grow in this way.
At this point to where things have gotten to within the Nigerian Football Federation it is no gainsay to allege that the NFF has now turned to an oil well for Nigerian politicians in which positions are been used to compensate their cronies which has reflected badly on the performance of the Super Eagles at all levels. The former Nigerian international Jay-Jay Okocha has only but spoken the truth about what the NFF has become today, and the only solution is to reform the body and keep it away from the interference of politicians before we can get to see Nigeria national team get better with great results as it were in the late and part of early 90s.

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