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July 21, 2015, 03:49:02 PM
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wow, i am really impressed.  thank you iCE:

My comment about cypherdoc being a lieing piece of shit had nothing to do with the court system.  It had everything to do with him whining and crying to Maxwell about being a loser who lost money in order to get him to retract his negative rating when in reality he was sitting on a cool 3000 BTC which used to be in Hashfast victims wallets.

As for the court, I guess I am more of a Libertarian than you at this point.  I have close to zero confidence in them and by-n-large don't give a shit about what these corrupt asswipes say.

It is the case that I fund the justice system through my taxes and I would not shed a tear if they make cypherdoc squeal.  The enemy of my enemy is my friend sometimes.  Same goes for other Libertarian scammers who didn't pay attention to the old adage "If you cannot stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen."

I happen to agree with the court that it is inappropriate for what's left of Hashfast to attach cypherdoc's 3000 BTC at the present time.  Again, if they rightly or wrongly do him much greater 'violence' in the future, well, golly gee wilikers...couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Cypherdoc made no allowance for his being a clueless jackoff when he was shilling hard for Hashfast.  Yes, those who didn't do their own due diligence on the guy (and the company and Bitcoin itself) and lost money (edit: or lost something) and they are primarily to blame, but I'm certainly not going to shed any tears if cypherdoc takes a hit for his own (very optional) role in the smoking crater that the endeavor very predictably became.

So you prefer to believe gmax's gossip rather than consult primary sources and form your own opinion?  Good luck with that!

This isn't the first time we've seen someone hypocritically selectively declare how little they care for courts' and judges' opinions, just because the court/judge in question failed to confirm their preexisting prejudgments.  When you lose on the facts, pound the table and attack the venue, right?   Roll Eyes

Plenty of people (including myself and presumably gmax) did their due diligence before ordering from HF.  But that is no guarantee of success when objective business conditions later become unfavorable to an insurmountable degree.

You are certainly not "more of a Libertarian" than I.  A real Libertarian would not ignore court proceedings/findings/rulings simply because, and only after, they failed to reinforced his preferred narrative.  You seem to think that Libertarians are anarchists, who despise courts and judges.  Big mistake, you amateur.

Libertarians don't believe simply doing your own due diligence guarantees you won't lose money on a venture (especially an ultra-high-risk gamble involving a brand new, very ambitious BTC ASIC start-up).  That's another big amateur mistake.

The broad problem of Deep Capture does not necessarily mean everything done by the courts (or police, etc.) is automatically wrong.  EG, in the narrow example of Frap.doc's coins we saw the court reject its Capturer's (Katten Muchen Rosenman) demand to jam their blood funnel into the nearest thing that smells like money.  

That's your third big amateur mistake.  I suggest you read Anarcy, State, and Utopia and get a clue about what "libertarian" actually means.

"very predictably became?"

Please, point out where you (psychically?) predicted HF would become a "smoking crater" or STFU about your asinine 20/20 hindsight and egregious Monday Morning Quarterbacking.  You don't get to say 'I told you so' when you did not, in fact, tell us so.

If the bankruptcy was so very predictable, why did gmax and dozens of others of old time and expert Bitcoiners fail to notice?

I swear to God...you people...with your retroactive, after-the-fact, so-called predictions...   Cheesy
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July 21, 2015, 03:56:28 PM
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From my admittedly tangential read, there is a hypothesis floated in legal circles that cypherdoc's involvement is somewhat more complex than simple shilling.  That is, his wallet acts as a protected buffer and his shilling fees exist as an excuse and to escape future legal 'violence'.  Whether I like or trust the legal system or not, I'd rather see the funds I put in to support it (my taxes) used to tug at this string than to help resolve disputes between other faceless corporate giants which is where most of the money goes.  That's only because I happen to be into Bitcoin though.  Ideally the court system and government generally would studiously ignore Bitcoin, but that ship has already sailed.

At least you admit repeating gossip and narrative, rather than primary sources.   Tongue

Cypherdoc's involvement as a paid endorser, who took on the role of a proxy for the community by visiting HF in person, started and stopped long before anyone knew business conditions for 3rd gen ASIC companies was about to take a turn for the worse.
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Funny how correcting you on the facts (commission != equity) made absolutely no difference to your conclusion... Grin

Have no dog in this fight, but did cypher really get commission?  As in "for the miners he personally sold"?  Or did he get 10% of total sales?  10% commission seems reasonable.  Paying out 10% of (total) sales is not, strictly speaking,  a commission, and paying 10% of gross sales (did HF sell much of anything other than BJs?) to some nobody posting on a forum?

He was paid commission in the form of 10% of Batch 1 Baby Jets sold.  Not total sales.

We've seen the actual '10% of Batch 1 Baby Jets' commission mutate into unfounded rumors of 10% of total sales and even 10% of equity.

That is ridiculous.  Am I the only one here capable of reading legalese?

https://cases.processgeneral.com/cases/document/case/5/hashfast-technologies-llc/120867/
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July 21, 2015, 04:31:38 PM
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geezuz, what i've been missing.  and btw, i am hereby replacing iCE with M_O_A as tvbcof's partner little dog:

cypher.doc has dragged down the whole reputation of bitcointalk.org standing with his shennagins.

What nonsense.  Could you possibly strain any harder to exaggerate?

Nobody, except for a few lawyers and windfall-obsessed dead-enders, care about an old endorsement thread.

Remember when Bargraphics traveled to MO and reported positively on Activemining, which turned out to be a fraud?

No?  Good, neither does anyone else.

And Lord knows how many people endorsed ASICMINER ("Friedcat for President").

Ditto for a dozen other ASIC companies.  Not to mention pirate@40, etc.

Where is your (apparently highly selective) outrage over them?  Don't rush, I'll wait...

To make Frap.doc the poster child for BTCT scams is ludicrous, especially as the court has yet to declare his coins anything other than legally earned sales commission, and HF anything other than a victim of changing business conditions.

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you realize i can't even bother to read the content of what you write any more; it's so bad.  all i can do is think of these images of you and little iCEBLOW:

http://fabelhaftfrenchbulldogs.com/wp-content/themes/TheCorporation/timthumb.php?src=http://fabelhaftfrenchbulldogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2_slider_puppies.jpg&h=220&w=330&zc=1

I'm pretty happy to be a little dog if the alternative would entail ripping people off by participating in a mining gear scam involving none-existent and never-to-be-existent hardware.  At least you could have been original and teamed up with Josh and Sonny at BFL.  You probably would have done much better.



Excuse me?

Hashfast User's Thread

yeah, not a hint of apology, not a hint of remorse from tvbcof for latching on to any suggestion of anti-cypherdoc sentiment (ala gmax's version of his negative rating) to post outright lies and slander.  this is what you get from him; unfounded bullshit and innuendo.  what a shameful, illiterate, irresponsible, little dog tvbcof:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnfCoiWTiktwAd99bKoxD-yDcDDSCQ2fJqzh4wP6FS7vCBOhHAXQ

I was doing something else besides screwing around on bitcointalk.org yesterday.  I formally apologize.  I've no trouble doing so.

I apologize for not realizing that Hashfast actually did eventually get something delivered (apparently.)  I've not researched things enough to figure out whether Hashfast just bought a few of obsolete chips left over from the old days for a few cents and shipped them to fulfill some obligation and help them get by in court.  Doesn't matter since nobody can make a dime one way or another.

As is the case since I got involved, it just makes sense to either buy Bitcoin or sit on cash waiting to do so.  By the laws of economics few if any people are going to make any money mining except in temporary and corner-case scenarios.  Any semi-competent analyst could tell you that (and I have a number of times.)

Naturally it is very possible to make a ton of money scamming people who are not bright enough to see why mining economically futile.  Lots of people have made a ton doing so.  If cypherdoc had publicly informed people of this opportunity to put other people's money into their own pockets I would have some respect for him as a human being.  That he kept it to himself and put ton of other people's money into is own pocket by this means makes it so that I have to respect his ability to correctly read the ecosystem.  It only makes him more of a Lowelife in my book though.

Cypherdoc displays the worst aspects of Libertarianism and none of the good ones.  Big fish scam little fish in a cold hard world and any attempts for the little fish to form schools to mitigate the threat are bad.  At the same time he fully adopts the Socialist line that everyone should be subsidized in order to enjoy the benefits of Bitcoin without paying for them.  Just like most real Socialists he is likely just wishing to fatten up the small fish to they are a more fulfilling mouthful at some point in the future and much easier to catch.


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you realize i can't even bother to read the content of what you write any more; it's so bad.  all i can do is think of these images of you and little iCEBLOW:

http://fabelhaftfrenchbulldogs.com/wp-content/themes/TheCorporation/timthumb.php?src=http://fabelhaftfrenchbulldogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2_slider_puppies.jpg&h=220&w=330&zc=1

I'm pretty happy to be a little dog if the alternative would entail ripping people off by participating in a mining gear scam involving none-existent and never-to-be-existent hardware.  At least you could have been original and teamed up with Josh and Sonny at BFL.  You probably would have done much better.



Excuse me?

Hashfast User's Thread

yeah, not a hint of apology, not a hint of remorse from tvbcof for latching on to any suggestion of anti-cypherdoc sentiment (ala gmax's version of his negative rating) to post outright lies and slander.  this is what you get from him; unfounded bullshit and innuendo.  what a shameful, illiterate, irresponsible, little dog tvbcof:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnfCoiWTiktwAd99bKoxD-yDcDDSCQ2fJqzh4wP6FS7vCBOhHAXQ

I was doing something else besides screwing around on bitcointalk.org yesterday.  I formally apologize.  I've no trouble doing so.

I apologize for not realizing that Hashfast actually did eventually get something delivered (apparently.)  I've not researched things enough to figure out whether Hashfast just bought a few of obsolete chips left over from the old days for a few cents and shipped them to fulfill some obligation and help them get by in court.  Doesn't matter since nobody can make a dime one way or another.

As is the case since I got involved, it just makes sense to either buy Bitcoin or sit on cash waiting to do so.  By the laws of economics few if any people are going to make any money mining except in temporary and corner-case scenarios.  Any semi-competent analyst could tell you that (and I have a number of times.)

Naturally it is very possible to make a ton of money scamming people who are not bright enough to see why mining economically futile.  Lots of people have made a ton doing so.  If cypherdoc had publicly informed people of this opportunity to put other people's money into their own pockets I would have some respect for him as a human being.  That he kept it to himself and put ton of other people's money into is own pocket by this means makes it so that I have to respect his ability to correctly read the ecosystem.  It only makes him more of a Lowelife in my book though.

Cypherdoc displays the worst aspects of Libertarianism and none of the good ones.  Big fish scam little fish in a cold hard world and any attempts for the little fish to form schools to mitigate the threat are bad.  At the same time he fully adopts the Socialist line that everyone should be subsidized in order to enjoy the benefits of Bitcoin without paying for them.  Just like most real Socialists he is likely just wishing to fatten up the small fish to they are a more fulfilling mouthful at some point in the future and much easier to catch.



i still don't get you:

"I am pleased to announce that I have been selected as a paid sponsor for HashFast Technologies LLC."


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.0
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Bitgold has made i  think the gold more popular to the online currencies. The bitcoin is perfect so far

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i still don't get you:

"I am pleased to announce that I have been selected as a paid sponsor for HashFast Technologies LLC."


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.0

Could you save me the time of looking and provide a link to where you described how and why your analysis was woefully wrong and lots of people lost money a fair bit of which you now control?  I didn't notice such a thing when I skimmed that thread.

Also, how much longer do you think we'll need to wait before you figure out how to 'pay people back' who took your advice and got a shaft up the ass for it?  I mean, surely that wallet with 3000 BTC is sitting there in waiting for you to do so (voluntarily), right?


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i still don't get you:

"I am pleased to announce that I have been selected as a paid sponsor for HashFast Technologies LLC."


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.0

Could you save me the time of looking and provide a link to where you described how and why your analysis was woefully wrong and lots of people lost money a fair bit of which you now control?  I didn't notice such a thing when I skimmed that thread.

Also, how much longer do you think we'll need to wait before you figure out how to 'pay people back' who took your advice and got a shaft up the ass for it?  I mean, surely that wallet with 3000 BTC is sitting there in waiting for you to do so (voluntarily), right?



as i am in the middle of a dispute with HF, i can't talk about any details of the case, as you can well imagine.

but if you think about it very carefully, i'm sure you can figure out the answer to your question.
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gold $1097 and dropping.
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gold rejecting off resistance.  should resume downtrend:



1310! Its just where the candlesticks are pointing.. we shall see.

Said this in 2012... probably earlier too... http://www.forexfactory.com/news.php?do=news&id=380828#post5957650

USDx and Stock market leaving the station together... probably 32k dow and 90-95 usdx atleast.

Recap from last sept:

gold hit $1305ish and topped out and USD now above 95usdx.. DOW still to get its head out from its ass.

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my, my.  the anger is getting obvious.  no wonder tvbcof is going off:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3e34x7/do_you_remember_gold_it_was_kind_of_an_analog/ctb3zwz
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  That he kept it to himself and put ton of other people's money into is own pocket by this means makes it so that I have to respect his ability to correctly read the ecosystem.  It only makes him more of a Lowelife in my book though.


To denounce someone without knowing anything is a case of a real Lowlife.

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  That he kept it to himself and put ton of other people's money into is own pocket by this means makes it so that I have to respect his ability to correctly read the ecosystem.  It only makes him more of a Lowelife in my book though.


To denounce someone without knowing anything is a case of a real Lowlife.

tvbcof is willing to make all sorts of accusations, wild claims & extrapolations, along with slanderous statements while fully admitting that he hasn't gone over the case or it's details whatsoever.  what kinda person does that?  answer:  someone who is mean & reckless and who has a malicious agenda. 

i deny all the allegations made in the complaint and on this forum and fully expect to prevail.
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  That he kept it to himself and put ton of other people's money into is own pocket by this means makes it so that I have to respect his ability to correctly read the ecosystem.  It only makes him more of a Lowelife in my book though.


To denounce someone without knowing anything is a case of a real Lowlife.

tvbcof is willing to make all sorts of accusations, wild claims & extrapolations, along with slanderous statements while fully admitting that he hasn't gone over the case or it's details whatsoever.  what kinda person does that?  answer:  someone who is mean & reckless and who has a malicious agenda. 

i deny all the allegations made in the complaint and on this forum and fully expect to prevail.

Oh, I'm sorry.

 - Is there any question that cypherdoc accepted money to shill for Hashfast?

 - Is there any question that people who sent money to Hashfast didn't get what they expected in return?

 - Is there any question that some of that money which victims used to control is now controlled by cypherdoc?

No?  Didn't think so. 

Is there any question that Zarathursa is a slimy little fuck?  Let me check the magic 8-ball.  Magic 8-ball says "It's highly likely."  So the jury is still out on that one.


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July 21, 2015, 10:26:40 PM
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The evolution of "shill" etymology is going in the directing of deprecating the old 'deceitful carny' connotation, in favor of the more modern 'paid spokesperson' although preserving the negative aspect by substituting a 'sell-out' implication for the 'fraud' of yore.

OK.  Entrench away.  It is a weird place to plant a flag, and entirely dependent on the future yet to be seen.
In a broader social commentary, your expected future of the diminishing notion of deception attached to the word may have more to do with an increase in shamelessness.  As if the deception is always everywhere anyhow.
The pendulum may swing back the other way on that, and I'm rooting for this.


The success of my entrenchment is not "entirely dependent on the future yet to be seen."

The locus of common usage of "shill" has moved from describing a carny's trick, to a paid endorser, and now is heading towards endorsers who are probably not even be paid (secretly or otherwise).

EG, I'm called a Monero shill for my advocacy, even though nobody seriously thinks the CEO of Monero pays me.

Maybe you should correct them on their improper use of the word?

I won't correct them, but will correct your improper understanding of linguistics and etymology (IE, living languages).

Their use of the word "shill" is not improper, because in common (esp. internet) vernacular, shill simply means 'an advocate of anything you don't like or agree with and wish to chastise/silence'  The negative connotation, with roots deep in carny scams, traveled through Bill Cosby and Jello, and now has arrived in the stable of general insults.  The same process occurred as 'spam' and 'troll' drifted from their specific origins through the social abstraction process.

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my, my.  the anger is getting obvious.  no wonder tvbcof is going off:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3e34x7/do_you_remember_gold_it_was_kind_of_an_analog/ctb3zwz

"Do you remember gold? It was kind of an analog bitcoin."

No "anger" here; I laughed out loud at that one.   Cheesy

But as a buyer, I am loving these low PM prices.   Cool

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I apologize for not realizing that Hashfast actually did eventually get something delivered (apparently.)  I've not researched things enough to figure out whether Hashfast just bought a few of obsolete chips left over from the old days for a few cents and shipped them to fulfill some obligation and help them get by in court.  Doesn't matter since nobody can make a dime one way or another.

As is the case since I got involved, it just makes sense to either buy Bitcoin or sit on cash waiting to do so.  By the laws of economics few if any people are going to make any money mining except in temporary and corner-case scenarios.  Any semi-competent analyst could tell you that (and I have a number of times.)

Naturally it is very possible to make a ton of money scamming people who are not bright enough to see why mining economically futile.  Lots of people have made a ton doing so.  If cypherdoc had publicly informed people of this opportunity to put other people's money into their own pockets I would have some respect for him as a human being.  That he kept it to himself and put ton of other people's money into is own pocket by this means makes it so that I have to respect his ability to correctly read the ecosystem.  It only makes him more of a Lowelife in my book though.

Cypherdoc displays the worst aspects of Libertarianism and none of the good ones.  Big fish scam little fish in a cold hard world and any attempts for the little fish to form schools to mitigate the threat are bad.  At the same time he fully adopts the Socialist line that everyone should be subsidized in order to enjoy the benefits of Bitcoin without paying for them.  Just like most real Socialists he is likely just wishing to fatten up the small fish to they are a more fulfilling mouthful at some point in the future and much easier to catch.

30 seconds on the The Google is sufficient to ascertain the fact HF made the the first 3rd gen 28nm BTC mining ASIC.

If you spent 1% of the time researching that you spend on rambling counterfactual speculation, you would already know that.

And like a True Liberal you breathlessly and carelessly invoke the victimological frame, casting Frap.doc as a predator.

The problem with that (besides your lack of basic contextual knowledge) is that HF customers (EG icebreaker, gmax, Frap.doc, etc.) were not "little fish" possessing no agency and doomed to be the witless, hapless prey of Evil HF Inc.

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Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


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July 21, 2015, 10:57:23 PM
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- Is there any question that cypherdoc accepted money to shill for Hashfast?

 - Is there any question that people who sent money to Hashfast didn't get what they expected in return?

 - Is there any question that some of that money which victims used to control is now controlled by cypherdoc?

- No, that fact was prominently disclosed in Frap.doc's HF OP, as everyone else noticed two years ago

- No, but that has zero bearing on an explicitly paid endorser's sales commission

- Yes, because you are begging the question by using the loaded conclusive term "victims" without proper justification, and even if you used the proper term "customers" that has zero bearing on an explicitly paid endorser's sales commission

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Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

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30 seconds on the The Google is sufficient to ascertain the fact HF made the the first 3rd gen 28nm BTC mining ASIC.

'cuz everything one reads after looking for 30 seconds on the internet is totally 100% true, right?


If you spent 1% of the time researching that you spend on rambling counterfactual speculation, you would already know that.

My hypothesis are based on things which are very factual indeed.  It takes contortions like yours and Zwhatever's to come up with alternatives to the hypothesis that cypherdoc best fits the description of 'predatory scammer'.  Observations apart from his Hashfast shilling only lend strength.

And like a True Liberal you breathlessly and carelessly invoke the victimological frame, casting Frap.doc as a predator.

The problem with that (besides your lack of basic contextual knowledge) is that HF customers (EG icebreaker, gmax, Frap.doc, etc.) were not "little fish" possessing no agency and doomed to be the witless, hapless prey of Evil HF Inc.

I'm not complaining about being victimized in the least.  Cypherdoc has impacted my own financial actions not at all over the years but I feel bad for those who have listened to his bullshit.  And I already knew that investing in mining gear was a loser just from simple basic analysis.  Investing in pie-in-the-sky hypothetical gear at some point in the future is so retarded that I can hardly believe anyone fell for it.  Especially gmax (although he did make some poor decisions related to Mt. Gox IIRC, so it seems that he doesn't exactly have the best judgement in investments/bets at all times.)  Perhaps gmax wanted some sha256 ASIC tech for other purposes than making money mining Bitcoin.  That is the only reason I've ever bought any ASIC gear.


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