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Question: Will you support Gavin's new block size limit hard fork of 8MB by January 1, 2016 then doubling every 2 years?
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July 24, 2015, 01:15:49 AM
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You're getting dangerously close to Anonymint-levels of megalomania

"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010
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July 24, 2015, 01:18:48 AM
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You're getting dangerously close to Anonymint-levels of megalomania


Maybe. But then you could always leave too.

But that never seems to happen.
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July 24, 2015, 01:30:31 AM
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oh wonderful.  just look at what they're doing to our beloved Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/972

Nobody is doing anything to our beloved Bitcoin, except for ensuring it will scale to and thrive at 1MB despite 'cosmic background spam' and intentional crapflood/DOS attacks.

Your Free Shit Army, OTOH, it getting rekt like Stannis at Winterfell.


The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Wallets - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }


Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


"I believed @Dashpay instamine was a bug & not a feature but then read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13017231#msg13017231
I'm not against people making money, but can't support questionable origins."
https://twitter.com/Tone_LLT/status/717822927908024320


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It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

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July 24, 2015, 02:21:30 AM
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oh wonderful.  just look at what they're doing to our beloved Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/972
is this "for real", or was the request done in earnest?

Thank me in Bits 12MwnzxtprG2mHm3rKdgi7NmJKCypsMMQw
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July 24, 2015, 02:25:10 AM
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it's getting worse:

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July 24, 2015, 02:32:53 AM
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You're getting dangerously close to Anonymint-levels of megalomania


For a minute there, Doc and Anoymint seemed like brothers from different mothers.

But let's move on to more pleasant, positive thoughts.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114945/lightning-network-could-strike-sooner-than-expected

So we'll soon have additional tps capacity in the forms of:

-Sidechains on Mainchain

-Sidechains on Altchains

-Lightning on Mainchain

-Lightning on Altchains

-Lightning on Sidechains(Mainchain)

-Lightning on Sidechains(Altchains)

So much for the 'capacity crunch.'   Smiley

The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Wallets - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }


Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


"I believed @Dashpay instamine was a bug & not a feature but then read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13017231#msg13017231
I'm not against people making money, but can't support questionable origins."
https://twitter.com/Tone_LLT/status/717822927908024320


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004

"Hard forks cannot be co
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July 24, 2015, 02:32:56 AM
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oh wonderful.  just look at what they're doing to our beloved Bitcoin:

https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/972
is this "for real", or was the request done in earnest?

that Tom David Harding guy was the same one who produced this document "in earnest" last month:

https://bitcoin.org/en/posts/hard-fork-policy
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July 24, 2015, 07:13:17 AM
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I cannot wait until we fork this problem away.
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July 24, 2015, 10:51:45 AM
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You're getting dangerously close to Anonymint-levels of megalomania


Maybe. But then you could always leave too.

But that never seems to happen.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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July 24, 2015, 11:31:52 AM
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rumour mill latest.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/french-bitcoin-revolution-bnp-paribas-plans-add-crypto-its-currency-funds-1512360

Bnp - France's biggest bank BNP Paribas is looking at ways bitcoin could be incorporated into one its currency funds, according to a source at the bank.
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July 24, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
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Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.
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July 24, 2015, 01:05:25 PM
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Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

next 24h critical
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July 24, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
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4y and counting:





otoh, breakout!:

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July 24, 2015, 04:10:07 PM
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see that little red line?  once the $DJI catches down to break that support, it's Lights Out:

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July 24, 2015, 05:17:08 PM
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energy?  we don't need no stinkin' energy!:

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July 24, 2015, 05:25:19 PM
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iCE, didn't you say you own Hecla?  geez man, you gotta get outta that thing.  once it breaks the red support line, it's lights out:

Hecla's been around for 100 years.  They know how to hibernate in bear markets, and historically offer the best leverage to silver.

I'm investing/accumulating for the long term, not day trading.  Let's hope they can snarf up Wildcat for pennies/oz before the market turns bullish.   Cool

good luck with this:

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July 24, 2015, 05:25:50 PM
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What is your brief take on the macro economic picture for the next year or two cypher?
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July 24, 2015, 05:39:33 PM
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hey iCE.  look at NBG for an example of what can happen to Hecla. 

i put this chart up last year as an example of what can happen to dip buyers assuming the worst is over.  the first narrative i wrote in red is when NBG was at $0.98.  for fun, i was joking about what would've happened if your timing was absolutely horrible and one went short at a major bottom of $70.28.  well, if you'd held, you'd have made a bundle as, at the time, price had dropped all the way down to $0.98.  now it's at $0.85  Smiley  lesson learned is that in a bad environment, stocks can go down much lower than you can even imagine:

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July 24, 2015, 05:44:43 PM
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energy?  we don't need no stinkin' energy!:

Don't worry, I have it on good authority that the financial crisis is over.  Ergo the 7/1 NFLX split!   Cool

Energy prices will most assuredly rise as fleets of fiber-to-the-screen deploying trucks build out more broadband for binge TV loving consumers.

Also, go Amazon go!  All time high!  Rah-rah streaming economy!



good luck with this:

[gloom_and_doom.png]

Yes, I consider lower prices for something I want to buy good luck.  NBG?  I'd sooner buy BAC (barf).  HL mines hard silver and gold, not fiat.

But I wish Gavin and you all the best with the NFLX and AMZN led economic recovery.

The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Wallets - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }


Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


"I believed @Dashpay instamine was a bug & not a feature but then read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13017231#msg13017231
I'm not against people making money, but can't support questionable origins."
https://twitter.com/Tone_LLT/status/717822927908024320


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004

"Hard forks cannot be co
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July 24, 2015, 06:05:17 PM
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energy?  we don't need no stinkin' energy!:

Don't worry, I have it on good authority that the financial crisis is over.  Ergo the 7/1 NFLX split!   Cool

Energy prices will most assuredly rise as fleets of fiber-to-the-screen deploying trucks build out more broadband for binge TV loving consumers.

Also, go Amazon go!  All time high!  Rah-rah streaming economy!



good luck with this:

[gloom_and_doom.png]

Yes, I consider lower prices for something I want to buy good luck.  NBG?  I'd sooner buy BAC (barf).  HL mines hard silver and gold, not fiat.

But I wish Gavin and you all the best with the NFLX and AMZN led economic recovery.

wow amzn low volume rise since 2009... all bots? I think mainstream investors left the market after crash
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