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July 30, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
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3D Xpoint memory: Faster-than-flash storage unveiled

Why do we need faster storage? The flash storage in my smartphone and PC seems more than fast enough to view and record the photos and videos I want.

Because there are other situations where using today's storage slows things down or introduces constraints.

So-called "big data" tasks are a particular issue.

For example, efforts to sequence and analyse our genes/DNA hold the potential for new and personalised medical treatments.

But copying the huge amounts of information involved backwards and forwards makes this an extremely time-intensive activity at present.

Faster storage would also help cloud services better handle big files.


http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-33675734
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July 30, 2015, 02:13:10 PM
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Gold has potential to plummet to $700: Strategist

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/30/gold-has-potential-to-hit-700-strategist.html
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July 30, 2015, 02:27:47 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html

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July 30, 2015, 02:36:53 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


what does it mean when Wladimir "merges" a BIP over on github?
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July 30, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


what does it mean when Wladimir "merges" a BIP over on github?

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July 30, 2015, 02:47:14 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


tl;dr

starting from Jan 2017 a 4.4% increase every 97 days, i.e. 17.7% per year

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July 30, 2015, 02:48:17 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


what does it mean when Wladimir "merges" a BIP over on github?

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Wlad @ 2:21AM via email from ML:

Merged #163.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.
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July 30, 2015, 02:50:11 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


what does it mean when Wladimir "merges" a BIP over on github?

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Wlad @ 2:21AM via email from ML:

Merged #163.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

It means the proposal was accepted into to the official repo of bips: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips
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July 30, 2015, 02:51:36 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


what does it mean when Wladimir "merges" a BIP over on github?

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Wlad @ 2:21AM via email from ML:

Merged #163.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

It means the proposal was accepted into to the official repo of bips.


huh, i thought that was already done when they assigned it a #.  guess not.

so it doesn't mean anything in regards to having gained consensus...
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July 30, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


what does it mean when Wladimir "merges" a BIP over on github?

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Wlad @ 2:21AM via email from ML:

Merged #163.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

It means the proposal was accepted into to the official repo of bips.


huh, i thought that was already done when they assigned it a #.  guess not.

Reading the work flow description, it seems assigning a number and adding it to the repo should happen together:

If the BIP editor approves, he will assign the BIP a number, label it as Standards Track, Informational, or Process, give it status "Draft", and add it to the git repository

But in fact that seems not to be the case in practice, since 100 and 102 aren't there currently: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

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so it doesn't mean anything in regards to having gained consensus...

No.
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July 30, 2015, 02:59:53 PM
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Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"

https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6


edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html


what does it mean when Wladimir "merges" a BIP over on github?

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Wlad @ 2:21AM via email from ML:

Merged #163.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

It means the proposal was accepted into to the official repo of bips.


huh, i thought that was already done when they assigned it a #.  guess not.

Reading the work flow description, it seems assigning a number and adding it to the repo should happen together:

If the BIP editor approves, he will assign the BIP a number, label it as Standards Track, Informational, or Process, give it status "Draft", and add it to the git repository

But in fact that seems not to be the case in practice, since 100 and 102 aren't there currently: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

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so it doesn't mean anything in regards to having gained consensus...

No.

thx smooth.  it's great to have someone like you around.
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July 30, 2015, 03:00:19 PM
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1. Hard block size unlimited.

2. Accept as valid blocks of size up to X for the time being, X decided by consensus amongst miners and developers and individuals in the community, re the current block size discussion.

3. Produce max Y size blocks for the time being, value of Y (less than X) decided by a (per def benevolent, since it is voluntary) cartel of miners.

4. Each individual miner produces blocks of max size Z, Z decided egoistically to maximize profit, to avoid technical problems and to minimize risk of orphaning, dependent on his trust of the real consensus of the previous points.

tl;dr no hard limit.
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July 30, 2015, 03:03:37 PM
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I am I the only one who can feel the narrative of the blocksize debate shifting?

That's probably just gas.

The block size will increase "eventually" but Not Tonight, Dear.   Cheesy

Pieter Wuille's BIP proposal: "Block size according to technological growth"
https://gist.github.com/sipa/c65665fc360ca7a176a6
edit: btc dev ml announcment http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-July/009763.html

"January 2017"   Cheesy

Team Gavinista will never go for this.  They demand Dramatic Action Now and Faster, Please.

Too bad that's not going to happen.  If only they understood why the 1MB cap is neither arbitrary nor artificial:

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"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Core GUI - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }
MoneroForCash.com  |  Buy and sell XMR near you  |  Easymonero.com  |  Bitsquare.io - Decentralized XMR Exchange  |  Buy XMR with fiat
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004
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July 30, 2015, 06:31:21 PM
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I'm curious why some people in this thread support the removal of a blocksize cap when Gavin himself suggests this is not conceivable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3f5yyr/block_size_according_to_technological_growth_by/ctlqzs7

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July 30, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
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I'm curious why some people in this thread support the removal of a blocksize cap when Gavin himself suggests this is not conceivable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3f5yyr/block_size_according_to_technological_growth_by/ctlqzs7

because their opinions only partially overlap with Gavin's?

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July 30, 2015, 06:48:55 PM
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I'm curious why some people in this thread support the removal of a blocksize cap when Gavin himself suggests this is not conceivable.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3f5yyr/block_size_according_to_technological_growth_by/ctlqzs7

Yeah memory exhaustion. That is one of the limits of nature, that is impossible to come around, an automatic limit. The different stakeholders, as I suggested in my post, will of course make sure, using their own limits, that any valid block can not exhaust memory on their current machinery. So no problem. To avoid orphaning on one side, and to avoid their own machines crashing on the other side, for both reasons, leaving block rewards to others.

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July 30, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
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If you would believe reddit, everyone is running an XT node right about now

http://xtnodes.com/

 Cheesy

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July 30, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
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If you would believe reddit, everyone is running an XT node right about now

http://xtnodes.com/

 Cheesy

1.5 percent. How do they identify themselves as XT nodes?
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If you would believe reddit, everyone is running an XT node right about now

http://xtnodes.com/

 Cheesy

1.5 percent.



The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Core GUI - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }
MoneroForCash.com  |  Buy and sell XMR near you  |  Easymonero.com  |  Bitsquare.io - Decentralized XMR Exchange  |  Buy XMR with fiat
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004
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July 30, 2015, 07:35:41 PM
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If you would believe reddit, everyone is running an XT node right about now

http://xtnodes.com/

 Cheesy

1.5 percent. How do they identify themselves as XT nodes?




Hello? And fuck your quoting habits.
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