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1941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. on: May 18, 2015, 09:39:24 AM
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ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided
Because you said "ISIS *do* kill Muslim", I consider it as intent. They will not intentionally kill Muslims.

EDIT: Do you think only ISIS that doing blasts, slaughters, etc. ? Undecided

Of course, it's killing.

Kill = Cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing).

Nope. Many do things like that, not just ISIS.
In fact, if shiite killing Muslims, the media reported that ISIS is doing it, make you believe that ISIS is doing it. News deceive you from the beginning. In fact, ISIS wants to enforce sharia in this world. In fact, kaffirun hate the if the sharia dominate in this world. Then they did all their guile, through the media they lied to the whole human being, including to Muslims, lied that ISIS kill Muslims, lied that ISIS want to destroy ka'bah, lied that the leader of ISIS was died, lied that this everything done by ISIS because political gains, and many more. And the worst thing is, Muslims believe it. That's why I asked you about "have you check that news?" yesterday Sad

So you are essentially concluding ISIS is innocent? ISIS didn't kill Muslims, they ain't cruels etc...?

P.S. Are you telling what media tell about senior ISIS leader is a lie?

"We are calling on you either to join or carry weapons [to fight] wherever you are."

So... Islam.. Religion of peace..

Yesterday I was browsing liveleak and found a video of a man that was in handcuffs or tied with his hands behind his back while 2 men had some "fun" with him.

While screaming god is great they were stabbing a man with the bayonet on the AK-47 he had.
The man was screaming in pain and the more he was screaming, the more that two monkeys were laughing..

Again.. Religion of Peace?

ISIS isn't following Islam even though they claim they are. They are denying many rules of Islam. How can they be Muslims if they kill innocents including non-Muslims and Muslims?

Who says they are not muslims?

If I say I am muslim, then I am muslim.. If I say I am athiest then I am athiest.
I just personaly have to believe in it.

But I guess they read like a 1st grader.. They see the words: "Kill" "Everyone" "Infedels""Muslim enemies"

So just claiming but no following is enough to be a follower? Hmm...

But... they even kill Muslims.
1942  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. on: May 18, 2015, 09:32:13 AM
"We are calling on you either to join or carry weapons [to fight] wherever you are."

So... Islam.. Religion of peace..

Yesterday I was browsing liveleak and found a video of a man that was in handcuffs or tied with his hands behind his back while 2 men had some "fun" with him.

While screaming god is great they were stabbing a man with the bayonet on the AK-47 he had.
The man was screaming in pain and the more he was screaming, the more that two monkeys were laughing..

Again.. Religion of Peace?

ISIS isn't following Islam even though they claim they are. They are denying many rules of Islam. How can they be Muslims if they kill innocents including non-Muslims and Muslims?
1943  Other / Meta / Re: Speculation forums getting cluttered on: May 18, 2015, 09:27:40 AM
Newbies should have some restrictions such as not being allowed to create topics in speculation subforums. However, there should be some other places where they are allowed to create new topics because total ban is a bit too much.

I think disabling 'new topic' button for newbies will work. They can still reply to threads but can't create one.

So if someone comes here to ask a valid question and they can not create their own topic, what will happen? They will reply to an old topic, the reply will almost certainly be offtopic. In the worst case the reply will never get notived because the old thread is no longer watched.

That is a problem. I think there is no good solution for this except reporting.

Btw, I don't think post will be unnoticed but yes, it maybe off topic.
1944  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Bitcoin Wallet on: May 18, 2015, 09:20:08 AM
Bither because of it's features and HD multisig.

I see almost 45% people voted for Bither; however I have never heard of this wallet before.

Are there any advantages to using this wallet over Multibit or Electrum? I visited their website which provides no information about its features, just the download links. I can see it also supports Android and iPhone which is a good thing, but couldn't find more information.

Bither support HD multisig and you can use your computer as cold wallet and mobile as hot wallet or vice versa. You can move transaction from one device to another for signing/pushing by using Qr-code and cam which is more better than a USB stick. You should try it. Smiley

I also know about Bither today. I wonder what make it stand out..

I voted for Mycelium as it is the safest Bitcoin wallet in Google Playstore. Been using it since October last year and have no problem with it.

Safet is not the appropriate word to use there IMHO.
1945  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. on: May 18, 2015, 09:14:10 AM
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ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided
Because you said "ISIS *do* kill Muslim", I consider it as intent. They will not intentionally kill Muslims.

EDIT: Do you think only ISIS that doing blasts, slaughters, etc. ? Undecided

Of course, it's killing.

Kill = Cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing).

Nope. Many do things like that, not just ISIS.
1946  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who are THEY? Are they Muslim? on: May 18, 2015, 09:09:02 AM
The muslims who do not like people attaching them with ISIS should just scrap their religion. Islam is hated everywhere i have been to. The damage has been done, either accept whatever Islam says[dont nitpick] or leave your religion

We accept what Islam says but it doesn't say to kill innocents like ISIS does.
I do wonder, Zakir, what would you do if the hard liners like ISIS moved into your area, and told you you had New Instructions regarding how to read the Koran and how to present it to people on the Internet.

Would you do what they said?

Of course if you did not the consequences would be severe.

Just a hypothetical question.

Np. A good question, I must say.

1. I have read Qur'an and most hadiths. I am not a "scholar" but I know about my religion pretty well. In my region, we both Muslims ans nob-Muslims are living peacefully. Even my religious teachers don't tell to tease or hurt others.

2. It will be hard for ISIS members to persist hereTM.

3. Even if they try to spread it, I won't accept it as I know the rules and teachings. In my nearest mosques, Imam always warn people about wrong faith like this. So I am pretty sure others won't too.

I don't mean to barge in but I couldn't help notice that you haven't really addressed the crux of the scenario. I'm sure you realize that a LOT of people, if not most, do not join these extremist groups by choice. Would you still be able to uphold your faith as a true Muslim if they break into your home with guns and threaten violence against your loved ones?

A logical question. +10.

Well, I don't know. It depends on how worse the situation is. I probably will go with them but won't kill anybody even if they torture me. Besides, there is an allowance for Muslims that if they fear they will die by following Islam, they can act as a non-Muslim. However, like I said, I can't tell exactly what I will do at that situation. Now, my mind is calm and not disturbed, I can think and imagine many things and possible solutions for that situation. But when I am in that situation, my mind will be very disturbed and I won't be able to think or create/find a solution easily.

tld;dr - It's hard to tell what I will do.

I agree with your opinion. How can a person denied to be an extremist if he or his family was threatened by them. I don't mean a muslim couldn't uphold his faith. I think this is a police or military task to protect the society and help them against the extremist.

You are wrong! They ain't extremists but in fact n00bs.
1947  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. on: May 18, 2015, 09:01:27 AM
Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

or monstrous savages

+1.

Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

PLease do not disgrace the honorable word Noobs/n00bs with Isis.

You are saying ISIS is worst than "n00bs", right? I loved it! Cheesy

Noobs here abouts means someone who is a beginner at something.  Usually a computer game.

Newbie --> noob --> n00b

Exactly. ISIS don't know about Islam. So they can't be extremists, rather a n00b.

You're wrong, they are want to enforce Islamic law (sharia) to the world.

Then why do they kill people of their own religion? They don't consider them worth enough to exist in this world? Terrorists also kill people who belong to their own religion and call it their religious beliefs and some people who dislike the religion believe in it.
Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

ISIS *do* kill Muslims.

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Out of context verses. You should look what these verses tell. The verses you picked doesn't end there or start there. Those verses tell to fight when the non-Muslims at the time of prophet tortured and killed many Muslims. Muslims had no choice other than to fight and these verses came at that time. It is mentioned in Qur'an that if the non-Muslims(at the time of prophet) didn't want to fight, don't hurt them.
+1 Cheesy By the way, ISIS will not attack if not attacked first, don't you know?

Nope, they will. There is no need for ISIS to kill others other than for political gains.
ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided
1948  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Commandos Kill Senior ISIS Leader on: May 18, 2015, 08:58:05 AM
"Learned scholars"? I know you are an islamaphobia. They don't even follow Islamic rules and claim they are Muslims which is stupic. Many of them aren't even "extremists" like you claim and also there are non-Muslins too. They don't have enough knowledge on Islam. Keep spreading false things to spread hatred. Undecided

You are the one that quoted Aymenn Jawad al-Tamimi .

All I did was bring in some other of his writings.

The point is that they defend the burning alive of the prisoner with Islamic teachings.  It's right there, spelled out.

Burning a living being alive is forbidden in Islam. So I don't think I should tell punishment for burning a human being. No true Muslims should do it.

Edit:

Hope the next news report will be,

"ISIS waved the white flag, and the world will be now in peace".

It is not easy because of the help they get. First, their help should somehow be blocked.
1949  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. on: May 18, 2015, 08:52:13 AM
Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

or monstrous savages

+1.

Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

PLease do not disgrace the honorable word Noobs/n00bs with Isis.

You are saying ISIS is worst than "n00bs", right? I loved it! Cheesy

Noobs here abouts means someone who is a beginner at something.  Usually a computer game.

Newbie --> noob --> n00b

Exactly. ISIS don't know about Islam. So they can't be extremists, rather a n00b.

You're wrong, they are want to enforce Islamic law (sharia) to the world.

Then why do they kill people of their own religion? They don't consider them worth enough to exist in this world? Terrorists also kill people who belong to their own religion and call it their religious beliefs and some people who dislike the religion believe in it.
Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

ISIS *do* kill Muslims.

- snip -

Out of context verses. You should look what these verses tell. The verses you picked doesn't end there or start there. Those verses tell to fight when the non-Muslims at the time of prophet tortured and killed many Muslims. Muslims had no choice other than to fight and these verses came at that time. It is mentioned in Qur'an that if the non-Muslims(at the time of prophet) didn't want to fight, don't hurt them.
+1 Cheesy By the way, ISIS will not attack if not attacked first, don't you know?

Nope, they will. There is no need for ISIS to kill others other than for political gains.
1950  Other / Meta / Re: Speculation forums getting cluttered on: May 18, 2015, 08:48:03 AM
Newbies should have some restrictions such as not being allowed to create topics in speculation subforums. However, there should be some other places where they are allowed to create new topics because total ban is a bit too much.

I think disabling 'new topic' button for newbies will work. They can still reply to threads but can't create one.
1951  Other / MultiBit / Re: addresses multibit question on: May 18, 2015, 07:05:38 AM
If you create any address after making a backup, then you need to create a new backup.
1952  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Bitcoin Wallet on: May 18, 2015, 07:04:38 AM
Bither because of it's features and HD multisig.
1953  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who are THEY? Are they Muslim? on: May 18, 2015, 06:54:09 AM
The muslims who do not like people attaching them with ISIS should just scrap their religion. Islam is hated everywhere i have been to. The damage has been done, either accept whatever Islam says[dont nitpick] or leave your religion

We accept what Islam says but it doesn't say to kill innocents like ISIS does.
I do wonder, Zakir, what would you do if the hard liners like ISIS moved into your area, and told you you had New Instructions regarding how to read the Koran and how to present it to people on the Internet.

Would you do what they said?

Of course if you did not the consequences would be severe.

Just a hypothetical question.

Np. A good question, I must say.

1. I have read Qur'an and most hadiths. I am not a "scholar" but I know about my religion pretty well. In my region, we both Muslims ans nob-Muslims are living peacefully. Even my religious teachers don't tell to tease or hurt others.

2. It will be hard for ISIS members to persist hereTM.

3. Even if they try to spread it, I won't accept it as I know the rules and teachings. In my nearest mosques, Imam always warn people about wrong faith like this. So I am pretty sure others won't too.
1954  Economy / Lending / Re: ★[No Collateral]★[No Interest]★ Offering Micro-Loans To Everyone! on: May 18, 2015, 06:51:02 AM
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Date: 18th May, 2015
I am taking a loan of 0.04 BTC from you, MZ.
Please send the coins to:
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TXID: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/69eb113c6275094b069685917e752a2d9130c7c46866cb63efd02d5e963a879c

Total: 0.1BTC + 0.96BTC + 0.04BTC = 0.11 1.1BTC.
1955  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. on: May 18, 2015, 06:43:32 AM
Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

or monstrous savages

+1.

Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

PLease do not disgrace the honorable word Noobs/n00bs with Isis.

You are saying ISIS is worst than "n00bs", right? I loved it! Cheesy
1956  Other / Meta / Re: "Quickseller" marked my account red rating with no evidence in ANGER, UNETHICAL on: May 18, 2015, 06:26:30 AM
OP received a valid negative feedback from Badbear which is the only feedback anyone should consider bearing in mind that Badbear is the admin. Rest those who left negative feedback don't have any proof/evidence and hence their feedback doesn't make sense.

I don't get if one has already received a negative feedback from the admin or a default trust member, why do other members too join the league? Does it improve or make his trust rating more valuable or trustworthy? I don't think so and find it weird ways of entering the default trust system.

If only one user left negative and he/she is removed from default trust list, negative rating will change to neutral rating. So to avoid it, two or more or DF users leave feedback.
1957  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Ledger HW1 | Same level of security as Ledger Nano hardware wallet! on: May 18, 2015, 05:58:57 AM
I am currently discussing with Bitcoin Explorer. Will post updates here.
1958  Other / Politics & Society / Re: American Commandos Kill Senior ISIS Leader on: May 18, 2015, 05:51:23 AM
"Learned scholars"? I know you are an islamaphobia. They don't even follow Islamic rules and claim they are Muslims which is stupic. Many of them aren't even "extremists" like you claim and also there are non-Muslins too. They don't have enough knowledge on Islam. Keep spreading false things to spread hatred. Undecided
1959  Other / Meta / Re: PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas) on: May 18, 2015, 05:40:21 AM
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Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

That's a very good question but I don't exactly understand it, please rephrase the question with elaboration.

I don't understand. If you didn't understand what I asked, how can it be a very good question?

When you raise funds, you need to store it somewhere before giving it to the person who started crowdfunding or is the funds send directly to the user's address when sponsors fund it?

Armis, please don't ignore.

Muhammed, I am not ignoring you.

When I read your question the first time I thought I understood it and simply didn't know the answer, then when I read it the second time and thought I understood it I believed I would need consultation to answer it, then when I read it the third time and thought I understood it I was going to answer it based on what I though was the question but then I realized that if my presumption was incorrect that I would be answering the wrong question and perhaps seen as dodging the question, so instead I simply asked you to rephrase the question with more detail so that I could try to understand it as you are asking.

Frankly, I am disappointed to see that reply. I don't know how more can I simplify it. Undecided

Post the answer to what you understood from my question. PM me if you can't post here. I will post here if the answer you gave is what I wanted to know.

Edit: Rephrased question: When you receive money from crowdfunding, will you be holding onto it or sending it instantly to the person that would eventually get it?
1960  Other / Archival / Re: Quickseller, trust abuse, innacurate negative ratings, unprofesional escrow... on: May 18, 2015, 05:17:14 AM
The fact that quickseller sells accounts which often go to scammers and two, that he quickseller is less than a year old on this forum truly AND has been abusing trust obviously for awhile with many complaints leads me to believe he should not be on default trust.

Who in the world gave a <1 year old person on this site DEFAULT TRUST? I mean Vod, that guy has been around for many years, OK. But a <1 year account with many instances of unethicalness including acting under multiple accounts to obtain information as seen in this thread, using his "tips" to promote his own business and then claiming one who calls him out as unethical as a scammer and THREE, spends his life on this forum while receiving numerous complaints.

This guy is worst than Vod, I mean just look at all the complaints about this guy. Seriously, a guy around for less than one year, sketchy as best, and on default trust...does no one see a problem with that?

There is no rule here telling the account should be 1 year old to be in default trust list and complaints about him are mostly scammers. *Valid* complaints are necessary for removing him from default trust list.
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