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July 24, 2014, 10:47:03 AM
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Great post I saw on bitcoinmarkets regarding historical stability that I thought people following this thread would appreciate:


Calculating Stability - Methodology
This is the layout of my spreadsheet at present:

Column A - Date
Column B - Daily bitcoin close price (from coindesk)
Column C - LN(Column B)
Column D - Variance(Column C and previous 9 days)
Column E - 1 / Column D

What does this do then? It takes the log of the price of bitcoin, then the variance of that over the last 10 days to get a measure of the % fluctuation in bitcoin's price. The higher the value, the greater the volatility in price over those 10 days. But we want stability, so we take the inverse of that.

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Charting price on a log axis against stability to 23rd July gives us the following:


It's quite clear that whenever we have a strong period of stability, a noticeable increase in price isn't too far behind.

(In my original post I accidentally said I'd used a 7 day variance, not 10. This changes the magnitude, but not the pattern:

Forecasts and Interpretation
We've identified 3 spikes (A, B and C) that appear to signal a coming increase in price. This chart shows how the price reacted following each of those spikes , ,

Clearly there's a lot of variation in the level and timing of the price increase, which I've summarised in this nice little table
What to do from here?
I think I'll start updating the first chart on a regular basis showing daily stability, adding that into the daily discussion thread.

Once it looks like peak stability has been and gone I'll declare that as Day Zero, and will start tracking the price against previous days since peak stability.

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All of this is based on something occuring 3 times in a row. Please none of the "Days until bubble: Peak Stability Date + (67 or 100 days)" nonsense. This is not a guarantee that a bubble's on the way! I know it's a pattern that most of us want to see, but don't let that cloud your judgement. This is not a scientific fact, merely a pattern.

Improving the methodology?
I need to get my hands on OHLC or hourly data to improve my meaure of stability, which I believe /u/gergi[6] has supplied me with - I just need to find the time to extract that and update accordingly.

Anyway, I've given you my approach so you can all play around and see what patterns you find. Perhaps setting the variance to more or less than 10 days gives different results? Perhaps using a data source besides coindesk gives an alternative view? Go out there and see what you can uncover!

tl;dr
When we have price stability we see an increase in price shortly after. This ranges from +165% to +1610% and can take 67 to 100 days. This is based on 3 observations. A sustained price decrease has never followed stability. We are currently experiencing price stability.

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2bj278/an_analysis_of_stability_and_spikes/

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July 24, 2014, 02:14:29 PM
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^ very nice analysis, i had quite the same without all these fancy graphs but its nice having the actual data.
although i kinda fear this stability to last a lil bit longer because of the psychological barrier from $600 to 1000; 2000; 3000...
anyho thx mate looking forward to your updates Smiley
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July 24, 2014, 02:35:34 PM
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First support could be found here


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July 31, 2014, 01:18:47 AM
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First support could be found here



touché ^^
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July 31, 2014, 05:50:03 PM
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Well



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July 31, 2014, 05:52:32 PM
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So, masterluc, do you still stick to your idea about long-term downtrend?
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July 31, 2014, 05:53:39 PM
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Well




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July 31, 2014, 05:57:01 PM
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So, masterluc, do you still stick to your idea about long-term downtrend?
On edge. This shit should be resolved soon on theese two charts.

1. Weekly bollinger. It is eventually coiled and anticipating a big move. Next move outside bands will show the direction of next months.



2. All time log uptrend line. Bad news for bulls if it will be broken down.


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July 31, 2014, 07:10:37 PM
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I think we can test as low as 520 and hold and still potentially be in bullish scenario. Below that is a different story.
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July 31, 2014, 09:17:20 PM
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2. All time log uptrend line. Bad news for bulls if it will be broken down.



Interesting. Care to zoom it out/define it by the relevant points of contact?

The "all time log" line I get (including gox data) from connecting the lows is at about $220 as of today, so obviously different from yours.

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July 31, 2014, 10:46:46 PM
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I think we can test as low as 520 and hold and still potentially be in bullish scenario. Below that is a different story.

520 is not out of the question but less likely than to break the resistances and going back up to high 600s

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August 01, 2014, 12:39:58 AM
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my all time log is partially based on gox data, not show here because its bitstamp. It was painted by gox checkpoints before $266 bubble.



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August 01, 2014, 12:46:20 AM
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my all time log is partially based on gox data, not show here because its bitstamp




What is that upper trend line I see in the top corner of your chart?   Wink

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August 01, 2014, 09:25:29 AM
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This



is a pretty nice bounce off of the lower BB (sma50), no?

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August 01, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
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朝圣来了。。。 Smiley

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August 01, 2014, 05:46:29 PM
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is a pretty nice bounce off of the lower BB (sma50), no?

Yes, it is Smiley.

I was a bit surprised how strong this recovery was, although the panicky sell off on Stamp in the last couple days was even more surprising. Although cannot complain, all this irrationality was great opportunity to profit Smiley.
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August 01, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
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I think we're getting close to a top in equities. A few more months of gains may be in the forecast, but Bitcoin and other tech assets will not participate in those gains.

Bitcoin will most likely move sideways in the $600-$550 range for the next few weeks, ultimately moving lower towards $500 later in September. After that, we'll see but I'm pretty bearish overall long term.
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August 02, 2014, 12:46:25 AM
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World War III is on a table. If Russia will be involved - China next - most ppl will die. US and especially EU will regret they provoked russians. Whatever came into your head - don't touch russians. Everyone who did it died hard.

Let's see how it would affect bitcoin price.

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August 02, 2014, 12:51:40 AM
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World War III is on a table. If Russia will be involved - China next - most ppl will die.

Let's see how it would affect bitcoin price.

yup, when putin say a war is coming, you better believe him because he is no american bluffer..
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-28/shocking-reason-putin-isnt-worried-about-50-billion-yukos-ruling
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August 02, 2014, 01:43:41 AM
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World War III is on a table. If Russia will be involved - China next - most ppl will die. US and especially EU will regret they provoked russians. Whatever came into your head - don't touch russians. Everyone who did it died hard.

Let's see how it would affect bitcoin price.

History is still waiting for Russia to win its first war. They can't even win wars against themselves.  I'd be more scared of fighting Canada than I would Russia.

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