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August 26, 2014, 08:21:55 PM
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both stocks and gold/silver dove into the close.

i don't like that.
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August 26, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
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Student loans the fastest growing debt.
They are getting them younger.
The education can't be taken away, but you also can't pass it on to your heirs.
It is as ephemeral as it is inalienable.
worse than that, college provides students with schooling, not education.

Any education may occur is purely accidental and contrary to the goal of producing well-schooled students.


There's a distressing amount of distrust of "education" in this thread sometimes. I have to say, aside from this community, higher-ed has, in my experience, been full of the most establishment-challenging people I've ever met. Granted, they tended to skew fiscal-liberal (youth and inexperience can do that), but nevertheless displayed honest and critical questioning of the status quo, over a pretty wide variety of thought.

That said, you may be specifically referring to K-12 public education in the US, in which case I'll offer no opinion because I have no personal experience with it.

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August 26, 2014, 10:28:28 PM
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Student loans the fastest growing debt.
They are getting them younger.
The education can't be taken away, but you also can't pass it on to your heirs.
It is as ephemeral as it is inalienable.
worse than that, college provides students with schooling, not education.

Any education may occur is purely accidental and contrary to the goal of producing well-schooled students.


There's a distressing amount of distrust of "education" in this thread sometimes. I have to say, aside from this community, higher-ed has, in my experience, been full of the most establishment-challenging people I've ever met. Granted, they tended to skew fiscal-liberal (youth and inexperience can do that), but nevertheless displayed honest and critical questioning of the status quo, over a pretty wide variety of thought.

That said, you may be specifically referring to K-12 public education in the US, in which case I'll offer no opinion because I have no personal experience with it.


yeah, but consider where you went.  Wink
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August 26, 2014, 11:13:25 PM
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after 2 years of dropping, price of gold is gana half!? lmao. how can you resist not buying this BS just to see what it says?

well i'm a buyer at 700$ LOL

*facepalm*

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August 26, 2014, 11:15:48 PM
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after 2 years of dropping, price of gold is gana half!? lmao. how can you resist not buying this BS just to see what it says?

well i'm a buyer at 700$ LOL

*facepalm*

Well the prediction is bold enough. If Bitcoin price goes back to $700 we'll be at parity below $1k lol

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August 27, 2014, 12:23:45 AM
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You know gold's downtrend is over when you see these things. Quick look at http://fxtrade.oanda.ca/analysis/open-position-ratios tells me retailers are still heavily long metals so expect more downtrend for now.
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August 27, 2014, 02:16:07 AM
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grinding higher
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August 27, 2014, 03:07:30 AM
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Hi, krypto hoomernz! The GFC vis a vis cryptos is an interest of mine, so I gonna do some reading here.

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August 27, 2014, 04:28:39 AM
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the world has gone crazy.  has been so for a long while.  deflation is spreading thru Europe now and Japan has been there for decades.  the spread btwn German and US 2y bond yields has widened to the most since 2007 as the bund yield has collapsed as a result of deflationary expectations and a flight to safety in Europe.  plummeting German yields will drag US yields even lower as deflation spreads here.  the US yield curve is flattening (warning sign).  the euro is dropping fast as everyone expects Draghi to start the European version of QE.  oh gaud.  this is helping to drive the USD up which will only serve to bring deflation here.  the US stock mkt is hitting new highs on the lowest volume of the year.  please.

it's quite simply amazing that we're seeing UST yields continue to drop once again even after a multi decade rally in bonds.  all the QE money is going into suppressing yields and not into true economic growth. the Fed has record amounts of UST's on it's books and the private markets supply is low leading to an even greater bid for this garbage as everyone is moving to "safety".  but yet the majority of investors and institutions regard this as high quality paper which is in record demand.  this flips traditional economics on it's head as you'd think all this printing would be causing rates to spike, but not so. just the opposite.  complicated times so look out.  especially gold and silver will be hurt badly by deflation.  this is also why we're seeing oil prices drop and certain housing data roll.

the Fed is going to do whatever it takes to fight this deflation, so look out.  but will they really raise interest rates?  i seriously doubt it.  this Keynesian experiment has created a very high risk situation so get yourselves into safety, however you define that.  Fall is coming and the worst crashes usually come during this time:

http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/vudpbIruJhpQ.mp3%20%E2%80%A6

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-08-25/treasury-two-year-notes-yield-most-versus-germany-since-2007
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August 27, 2014, 05:06:28 AM
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eating thru the wall @ 517
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August 27, 2014, 06:13:21 AM
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Break through!
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August 27, 2014, 06:33:18 AM
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Student loans the fastest growing debt.
They are getting them younger.
The education can't be taken away, but you also can't pass it on to your heirs.
It is as ephemeral as it is inalienable.
worse than that, college provides students with schooling, not education.

Any education may occur is purely accidental and contrary to the goal of producing well-schooled students.


There's a distressing amount of distrust of "education" in this thread sometimes. I have to say, aside from this community, higher-ed has, in my experience, been full of the most establishment-challenging people I've ever met. Granted, they tended to skew fiscal-liberal (youth and inexperience can do that), but nevertheless displayed honest and critical questioning of the status quo, over a pretty wide variety of thought.

That said, you may be specifically referring to K-12 public education in the US, in which case I'll offer no opinion because I have no personal experience with it.


regarding education:

Our whole school system is designed to turn people from random individuals into mutually interchangeable parts of a big machine. What is the first thing you learn in school? It's not reading, or writing or any of that stuff which your parents or their friends could have taught you by themselves if they weren't too busy being parts of the machine. It's that your time is not your own. It doesn't belong to you. It belongs to the authorities who will tell you when to be at a certain place, doing certain things. Better get used to it kiddo, because it's going to be like that for the rest of your life!

Next thing you learn is that mistakes are bad. So bad in fact that it is preferable to do nothing than to make mistakes. Oh and don't bother thinking for yourself. There is exactly ONE correct answer to everything and we already have it so don't bother with that, just memorize these text books.

Btw I went to university. I was interested in the subject they were "teaching". What a huge pile of horse crap that was. I quit. Everyone told me I am crazy, without education I won't get a good job! Right. As if having a Job (acronym for "Just over broke") is the only way to get by in life. Anyway I told them they are crazy for wasting their best years in such a rotten institution. And they knew it was shit. But the momentum of the whole system just carried them further and they stayed, finished their schools, got into jobs and started turning into miserable zombies just as predicted. And the ones who actually stayed in school even further, turning themselves into academics? They were the worst of the bunch. Lifeless, bland individuals, without any original thought in their heads. Conforming to the standards of authority has become the alpha and omega and everything else takes the back seat. Except their bitter conviction that somehow they are relevant. That somehow the guy who spent his whole life in academia can teach businessmen about management.

It's all bullshit. But bullshit makes the flowers grow and that's beautiful.
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August 27, 2014, 06:37:22 AM
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this thread was started 3/13

Bitcoin  5.40

Gold 1690.


today 3/22

Bitcoin 4.77   (down ~12%)

Gold 1640  (down ~3%)


Which one is "Collapsing"

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August 27, 2014, 06:53:23 AM
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this thread was started 3/13

Bitcoin  5.40

Gold 1690.


today 3/22

Bitcoin 4.77   (down ~12%)

Gold 1640  (down ~3%)


Which one is "Collapsing"

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this thread was started 3/13

Bitcoin  5.40

Gold 1690.


today 3/22

Bitcoin 4.77   (down ~12%)

Gold 1640  (down ~3%)


Which one is "Collapsing"

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I found a GEM from the past.  Wink

Indeed, legendary....

Yep, those are not mBTC prices  Grin

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August 27, 2014, 01:45:10 PM
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the Fed is going to do whatever it takes to fight this deflation, so look out.  but will they really raise interest rates?  i seriously doubt it.  this Keynesian experiment has created a very high risk situation so get yourselves into safety, however you define that.  Fall is coming and the worst crashes usually come during this time:

How do you define safety in this crazy environment?
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August 27, 2014, 01:52:34 PM
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the Fed is going to do whatever it takes to fight this deflation, so look out.  but will they really raise interest rates?  i seriously doubt it.  this Keynesian experiment has created a very high risk situation so get yourselves into safety, however you define that.  Fall is coming and the worst crashes usually come during this time:

How do you define safety in this crazy environment?

Bitcoin
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August 27, 2014, 01:59:23 PM
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the Fed is going to do whatever it takes to fight this deflation, so look out.  but will they really raise interest rates?  i seriously doubt it.  this Keynesian experiment has created a very high risk situation so get yourselves into safety, however you define that.  Fall is coming and the worst crashes usually come during this time:

How do you define safety in this crazy environment?

Bitcoin

obviously  Cheesy, but let's imagine you want some diversification...
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August 27, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
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Gold and silver are dinossaur assets, the only thing worth any money is Bitcoin.
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August 27, 2014, 03:32:04 PM
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the Fed is going to do whatever it takes to fight this deflation, so look out.  but will they really raise interest rates?  i seriously doubt it.  this Keynesian experiment has created a very high risk situation so get yourselves into safety, however you define that.  Fall is coming and the worst crashes usually come during this time:

How do you define safety in this crazy environment?

Bitcoin

obviously  Cheesy, but let's imagine you want some diversification...

USD or UST.  flip a coin.  i think one of them will suffer in the next downturn and i'm not sure which one.
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