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August 27, 2014, 02:45:36 PM
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Gold and silver are dinossaur assets, the only thing worth any money is Bitcoin.
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August 27, 2014, 03:32:04 PM
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the Fed is going to do whatever it takes to fight this deflation, so look out.  but will they really raise interest rates?  i seriously doubt it.  this Keynesian experiment has created a very high risk situation so get yourselves into safety, however you define that.  Fall is coming and the worst crashes usually come during this time:

How do you define safety in this crazy environment?

Bitcoin

obviously  Cheesy, but let's imagine you want some diversification...

USD or UST.  flip a coin.  i think one of them will suffer in the next downturn and i'm not sure which one.
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August 27, 2014, 03:34:40 PM
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Bitusd aslong as btsx keeps rising:)

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August 27, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
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The Elephant In The Room: Deutsche Bank's $75 Trillion In Derivatives Is 20 Times Greater Than German GDP

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/elephant-room-deutsche-banks-75-trillion-derivatives-20-times-greater-german-gdp

oh my ^^

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August 27, 2014, 03:42:50 PM
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https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/504655213077495808
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August 27, 2014, 03:46:52 PM
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The Elephant In The Room: Deutsche Bank's $75 Trillion In Derivatives Is 20 Times Greater Than German GDP

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/elephant-room-deutsche-banks-75-trillion-derivatives-20-times-greater-german-gdp

oh my ^^



the whole system is like that.

this is why alot of ppl predict a massive deflationary event (deleveraging) followed by hyperinflation as the CB's print to try and stop the deflation.  otoh, you really have to admire how well they've kept the system duck taped together at the expense of the public.  how long can it last?
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August 27, 2014, 03:58:39 PM
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As CNBC notes, since the recession ended, lower-wage jobs have grown by 2.3 million while medium- and higher-wage jobs actually contracted by 1.2 million. This is in line with the ground-losing 2% wage growth the job market is seeing.

Now you see why the big gains in housing starts and permits are pretty much concentrated in apartment construction, not home building.


http://www.housingwire.com/blogs/1-rewired/post/31088-truth-is-those-recent-housing-numbers-arent-so-shiny#.U_36bRp2wvE.twitter
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August 27, 2014, 04:50:32 PM
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this is why alot of ppl predict a massive deflationary event (deleveraging) followed by hyperinflation as the CB's print to try and stop the deflation.  otoh, you really have to admire how well they've kept the system duck taped together at the expense of the public.  how long can it last?

"Ain't nothing a little duck tape can't fix!"
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August 27, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
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Oh and German bonds are negative up to three years out. 10Y out they are at record lows. Could be related: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-27/greatest-depression-german-yields-now-negative-through-2017
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August 27, 2014, 06:01:38 PM
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Oh and German bonds are negative up to three years out. 10Y out they are at record lows. Could be related: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-27/greatest-depression-german-yields-now-negative-through-2017

unbelievable.  can you imagine having to "pay" to own one of these debt instruments?  i understand the argument that it has a state guarantee behind it but c'mon.
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August 27, 2014, 06:03:28 PM
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yes, UST's following suit.

so who the hell is buying stocks?

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August 27, 2014, 06:08:30 PM
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Oh and German bonds are negative up to three years out. 10Y out they are at record lows. Could be related: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-27/greatest-depression-german-yields-now-negative-through-2017

unbelievable.  can you imagine having to "pay" to own one of these debt instruments?  i understand the argument that it has a state guarantee behind it but c'mon.

Could it be due to regulations? In some regions, banks are forced to hold a certain portion of their reserves in government bonds. If somebody is desperate to own these instruments for regulatory reasons, it can depress the yield.

 

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August 27, 2014, 06:12:57 PM
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Oh and German bonds are negative up to three years out. 10Y out they are at record lows. Could be related: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-27/greatest-depression-german-yields-now-negative-through-2017

unbelievable.  can you imagine having to "pay" to own one of these debt instruments?  i understand the argument that it has a state guarantee behind it but c'mon.

Could it be due to regulations? In some regions, banks are forced to hold a certain portion of their reserves in government bonds. If somebody is desperate to own these instruments for regulatory reasons, it can depress the yield.

Please lend me 100 euro now and I'll give you back 97 in 3 years!
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August 27, 2014, 06:15:10 PM
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Oh and German bonds are negative up to three years out. 10Y out they are at record lows. Could be related: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-27/greatest-depression-german-yields-now-negative-through-2017

unbelievable.  can you imagine having to "pay" to own one of these debt instruments?  i understand the argument that it has a state guarantee behind it but c'mon.

Could it be due to regulations? In some regions, banks are forced to hold a certain portion of their reserves in government bonds. If somebody is desperate to own these instruments for regulatory reasons, it can depress the yield.

Please lend me 100 euro now and I'll give you back 97 in 3 years!

can people barrow at negative interest yet?

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August 27, 2014, 06:16:39 PM
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Oh and German bonds are negative up to three years out. 10Y out they are at record lows. Could be related: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-27/greatest-depression-german-yields-now-negative-through-2017

unbelievable.  can you imagine having to "pay" to own one of these debt instruments?  i understand the argument that it has a state guarantee behind it but c'mon.

Could it be due to regulations? In some regions, banks are forced to hold a certain portion of their reserves in government bonds. If somebody is desperate to own these instruments for regulatory reasons, it can depress the yield.

Please lend me 100 euro now and I'll give you back 97 in 3 years!

can people barrow at negative interest yet?

Now, just the German government.
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August 27, 2014, 06:20:59 PM
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yes, UST's following suit.

so who the hell is buying stocks?



The fed and its dealers are the only ones buying stocks and just about any other instrument around the world.
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August 27, 2014, 06:32:35 PM
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turning back up on the 15 min and 1h...
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August 27, 2014, 06:45:28 PM
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my thoughts on the regression theorum:

https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/504700458779566080
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August 27, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
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nice stock DUMP
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August 27, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
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so if a bank, gvt, NSA, or other malicious actor wants to do a 51% attack, they need to duplicate all the mines in the world like this one:

http://www.thecoinsman.com/2014/08/bitcoin/inside-one-worlds-largest-bitcoin-mines/
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