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August 28, 2014, 06:20:24 PM
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Ha thats old news already. Tongue
Apparently hashfast's facilities.
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August 28, 2014, 06:25:18 PM
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The drawbacks of America’s civil tort system are well known. What is new is the way that regulators and prosecutors are in effect conducting closed-door trials. For all the talk of public-spiritedness, the agencies that pocket the fines have become profit centres: Rhode Island’s bureaucrats have been on a spending spree courtesy of a $500m payout by Google, while New York’s governor and attorney-general have squabbled over a $613m settlement from JPMorgan. And their power far exceeds that of trial lawyers. Not only are regulators in effect judge and jury as well as plaintiff in the cases they bring; they can also use the threat of the criminal law.

Perhaps the most destructive part of it all is the secrecy and opacity. The public never finds out the full facts of the case, nor discovers which specific people—with souls and bodies—were to blame. Since the cases never go to court, precedent is not established, so it is unclear what exactly is illegal. That enables future shakedowns, but hurts the rule of law and imposes enormous costs. Nor is it clear how the regulatory booty is being carved up. Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York, who is up for re-election, reportedly intervened to increase the state coffers’ share of BNP’s settlement by $1 billion, threatening to wield his powers to withdraw the French bank’s licence to operate on Wall Street. Why a state government should get any share at all of a French firm’s fine for defying the federal government’s foreign policy is not clear.

think Ben Lawsky

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21614138-companies-must-be-punished-when-they-do-wrong-legal-system-has-become-extortion

this phenomenon is due to the interpretation of the so called 'Holder memo' as written about at length in Matt Taibbi's 'The Divide'.
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August 28, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
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August 28, 2014, 06:41:11 PM
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"Why Bitcoin is Better Than Gold, with Wences Casares"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkfhi8Eaiw


I think his talk from Bitcoin2014 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NERAN-89j8M) is better, but the above is shorter and more recent (published today).

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
But Bitcointalk & /r/bitcoin are heavily censored. bitco.in/forum, forum.bitcoin.com, and /r/btc are open.
Best info on Casascius coins: http://spotcoins.com/casascius
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August 28, 2014, 07:13:39 PM
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The drawbacks of America’s civil tort system are well known. What is new is the way that regulators and prosecutors are in effect conducting closed-door trials. For all the talk of public-spiritedness, the agencies that pocket the fines have become profit centres: Rhode Island’s bureaucrats have been on a spending spree courtesy of a $500m payout by Google, while New York’s governor and attorney-general have squabbled over a $613m settlement from JPMorgan. And their power far exceeds that of trial lawyers. Not only are regulators in effect judge and jury as well as plaintiff in the cases they bring; they can also use the threat of the criminal law.

Perhaps the most destructive part of it all is the secrecy and opacity. The public never finds out the full facts of the case, nor discovers which specific people—with souls and bodies—were to blame. Since the cases never go to court, precedent is not established, so it is unclear what exactly is illegal. That enables future shakedowns, but hurts the rule of law and imposes enormous costs. Nor is it clear how the regulatory booty is being carved up. Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York, who is up for re-election, reportedly intervened to increase the state coffers’ share of BNP’s settlement by $1 billion, threatening to wield his powers to withdraw the French bank’s licence to operate on Wall Street. Why a state government should get any share at all of a French firm’s fine for defying the federal government’s foreign policy is not clear.

think Ben Lawsky

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21614138-companies-must-be-punished-when-they-do-wrong-legal-system-has-become-extortion

IMHO this demonstrates the absolute beauty of the Decentralized Autonomous Corporation (DAC) model. You can think of the bitcoin network as a company (or individual) who performs a specified task, which is maintaining the ownership structure of a public ledger.

A traditional company (or individual) can be sued by Ben Lawsky. But with a DAC there is nothing and no one to sue, imprison or bring to either a public court or a private tribunal. It operates outside of anyone's control, whether regulator, judge, legislator or tyrant.

The fact that the concept of a DAC was invented in bitcoin and many people are drawn to it, is a direct outcome of what this economist article describes and also is a very negative assessment of the world today.

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August 28, 2014, 07:18:20 PM
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"Why Bitcoin is Better Than Gold, with Wences Casares"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKkfhi8Eaiw


I think his talk from Bitcoin2014 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NERAN-89j8M) is better, but the above is shorter and more recent (published today).

thanks for that.  excellent.
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August 28, 2014, 07:22:48 PM
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haha. someone just pulled down their 290 wall.  wimps.
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August 28, 2014, 07:24:10 PM
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bid wall moving forward to 507.97
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August 28, 2014, 08:20:34 PM
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oh yeah, baby.  2 of them!

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August 28, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
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This is 2 whales arguing whose dick is bigger isn't it.

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August 28, 2014, 10:40:07 PM
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I wonder where it's located. In the third photo you can see a glimpse of the sky. More likely north west china where power is cheaper. This time of year, and most of the year, the sky in the east is never that clear. 
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August 28, 2014, 10:42:10 PM
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This is 2 whales arguing whose dick is bigger isn't it.

One of them should just bite the other off.
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August 28, 2014, 10:51:06 PM
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Ripple printing  Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hinsnnc0VBk
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August 28, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
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Dear lord. I think the Fed and the ECB will call Ripple labs for tips soon!

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August 28, 2014, 11:05:33 PM
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Russia Pushes Ahead With Plans for SWIFT Alternative

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/government-pushes-ahead-with-plans-for-swift-analog/506003.html

"...Moiseyev added that, although the law had been drafted, it would not become policy until it was clear that the Central Bank had the technology to enable processing of interbank transactions within Russia.

The plans to develop an alternative to SWIFT follow steps to create a national payment system for processing credit card transactions, after Visa and MasterCard stopped providing services for some Russian banks that were subject to Western sanctions.

Kommersant reported last week that the Central Bank had sent a letter to banks asking them to consider alternative mechanisms for interbank payments, citing national security concerns."
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August 28, 2014, 11:42:23 PM
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Dear lord. I think the Fed and the ECB will call Ripple labs for tips soon!

now i feel bad for ripple pumper dude that comes on here every once in a while.

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August 28, 2014, 11:51:55 PM
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ghash 20%, Discus 24%

i thought ghash was supposed to take over and trash the entire network?:

yes just like BTC Guild and ASICminer before them.

ZOMG DeepBit is 50.001%  WERE ALL GONNA DIE!1!!

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Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014
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Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


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It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
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Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

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August 29, 2014, 12:55:00 AM
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Dear lord. I think the Fed and the ECB will call Ripple labs for tips soon!

now i feel bad for ripple pumper dude that comes on here every once in a while.

He was absent for quite a while after the big crash (which happened when one ex-developer announced he was going to dump a lot)

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August 29, 2014, 01:06:10 AM
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especially for an expectative AM shareholder ^^
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August 29, 2014, 01:21:38 AM
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Dear lord. I think the Fed and the ECB will call Ripple labs for tips soon!

now i feel bad for ripple pumper dude that comes on here every once in a while.

He was absent for quite a while after the big crash (which happened when one ex-developer announced he was going to dump a lot)

he came by the wall thread every once in a while, to remind us how cool ripple is, he will be dearly missed.

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