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September 12, 2014, 04:10:08 PM
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Is it the hashrate from the start to now?
I see a big drop and a sudden recover in the last period, maybe it's time to hold some coins.
No.

The start to now is way more impressive

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/

And I think it's a good time to hold.

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September 12, 2014, 05:05:48 PM
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more black hole sh*t --> deflation:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-12/harsh-austerity-sends-italian-spanish-debt-record-highs

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September 12, 2014, 05:13:50 PM
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pretty huge:

The decision by the CFTC, which regulates swaps and futures, constitutes the first recognition by a U.S. federal regulator of a bitcoin financial product, even if the product does not itself involve the exchange of actual bitcoins.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/12/us-usa-bitcoin-cftc-idUSKBN0H71FU20140912?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews
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September 12, 2014, 05:23:41 PM
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pretty huge:

The decision by the CFTC, which regulates swaps and futures, constitutes the first recognition by a U.S. federal regulator of a bitcoin financial product, even if the product does not itself involve the exchange of actual bitcoins.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/12/us-usa-bitcoin-cftc-idUSKBN0H71FU20140912?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews

And is a nod to the big boys to start pushing bitcoin around.
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September 12, 2014, 05:27:13 PM
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pretty huge:

The decision by the CFTC, which regulates swaps and futures, constitutes the first recognition by a U.S. federal regulator of a bitcoin financial product, even if the product does not itself involve the exchange of actual bitcoins.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/12/us-usa-bitcoin-cftc-idUSKBN0H71FU20140912?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews

And is a nod to the big boys to start pushing bitcoin around.

note in the article that a prerequisite to the approval was the construction of a non-manipulable index which ended up being a composite of 6 exchanges, presumably spread round the world, which is exactly what i have been arguing needs to be done to prevent the pushing around you indicate.  this is key and should represent an opportunity for more quality well run exchanges to hopefully open up to spread the risk.
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September 12, 2014, 05:47:36 PM
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unloading so many stacks is going to be just brutal.  lotsa sore backs like i found out in 2011.  not to mention the lack of liquidity and haircuts involved. 
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September 12, 2014, 06:10:37 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:

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September 12, 2014, 06:22:49 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:

Information storage and retrieval is becoming free.
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September 12, 2014, 06:22:58 PM
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risk rising once again:

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September 12, 2014, 06:25:12 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:

Information storage and retrieval is becoming free.

that's bad for incumbents.
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September 12, 2014, 06:33:06 PM
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please don't get caught catching a falling knife:

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September 12, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
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Bitcoin annualised inflation rates just recently went into single figures ... now at 9.91%.

I feel like a celebration is in order for the bitcoin algorithm taming inflation to below 10%!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130619.msg1397456#msg1397456

Looks like we just surpassed the cross on the second chart of time.
I don't see what you see. The cross under 10% is supposed to happen in mid-2015. It may have been brought earlier by the constant increase in hashrate, but at the same time this causes a shorter block time and higher coin emission (around +10% these days), so I think it can be confidently stated that we are still months away from going under 10% annual inflation.

At block 320,351 (right about now) annualized inflation is roughly:

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(1 + (25*6*24) / ( 210000 * 50 + (320351 - 210000) * 25 ) ) ^ 365 - 1 = 10.4%

EDIT: corrected a 24 to a 25 which I previously thought I had corrected but instead f-ed up.

So yeah, if this is correct, we're not at 10% yet (about 140 more days to go)

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September 12, 2014, 06:38:14 PM
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commodity producer Australia breaking support:

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September 12, 2014, 06:39:00 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:



fucking hell!

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September 12, 2014, 06:40:28 PM
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Energy SPDR:

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September 12, 2014, 06:43:08 PM
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Dow in a clear short term sell signal:

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September 12, 2014, 06:52:42 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:



I just got a 256GB card and was trying to run it on my pi for that exact function. no luck just yet, i plan to try format it from a Linux machine and try again  Sad

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September 12, 2014, 08:20:35 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:



I just got a 256GB card and was trying to run it on my pi for that exact function. no luck just yet, i plan to try format it from a Linux machine and try again  Sad

My concern would be the time required to write the blockchain to that
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September 12, 2014, 08:21:10 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:


No serious person has had significant concerns about 'blockchain storage' since about forever.  It's been a red herring from day one.  What people are concerned about is access to that storage.  That could be internal (fully verifying a transaction history in the way that Bitcoin was originally advertise) or external (access to high quality and unencumbered bandwidth) should the transaction rate be increased by a large margin.


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September 12, 2014, 08:22:35 PM
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this is absolutely unbelievable.  i guess we don't have to worry about blockchain storage:


No serious person has had significant concerns about 'blockchain storage' since about forever.  It's been a red herring from day one.  What people are concerned about is access to that storage.  That could be internal (fully verifying a transaction history in the way that Bitcoin was originally advertise) or external (access to high quality and unencumbered bandwidth) should the transaction rate be increased by a large margin.



nonsense, poeple are many many irrational fears about bitcoin this is one of them.

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