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September 02, 2014, 04:43:23 AM
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Another thing to note, we just passed the halfway point between the previous block halving (210,000) and the upcoming one (Block 420,000) that was at block 315,000 ...

... the psychology of the market is from now on we are closer to the point of 1800 btc/day than 7200 btc/day inflation rates. If the market is adept at smoothing those lumpy step changes in issuance by pricing in demand/supply imbalances over long periods ...

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September 02, 2014, 08:16:20 AM
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Gold down moarerer
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September 02, 2014, 08:24:10 AM
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September 02, 2014, 08:41:46 AM
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Now I get it -it's been staring in my face for weeks:

You use the word deflation in an unconventional third way, not the economic sense of shrinking money supply, not in the populist sense of shrinking prices, but generally as shrinkage.

Shrinking real wages, shrinking house building, shrinking GDP, shrinking dicks.

Makes sense, although it should be properly agreed upon during a discussion.
 

altho it is still probable that my definition fits the traditional definition of shrinking money supply (monetary base+credit). the problem is i can't find any reliable figures on total aggregate debt over time, including shadow banking, and whether it is shrinking or not.  that chart above of net shadow banking liabilities is a big hint as to what is going on, the question being, whether or not it is being adequately offset by increasing gvt debt and monetary base.

anyone?

Fair. Seeing the world overall, we have government debt creation in Japan and China. China is desperate to reduce debt ratios in businesses, but they can't, when they try they feel the pain with failing businesses all over the place. With money supply deflation, we should see falling prices. We have falling prices in gold and some capital commodities. Commodity prices are where we should expect it first, anyway.
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September 02, 2014, 12:13:42 PM
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Gold collapsing. Bitcoin stabilizing.
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September 02, 2014, 12:21:07 PM
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What happened to the shorts vs usd swaps chart?
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September 02, 2014, 12:32:04 PM
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conveniently left out 5th i guess.. Wink


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September 02, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
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Frankfurt court bans Uber taxi services across Germany

Perhaps they shouldn't have chosen a German name for the company.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/02/us-uber-germany-ruling-idUSKBN0GX0OM20140902
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September 02, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
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Frankfurt court bans Uber taxi services across Germany

Perhaps they shouldn't have chosen a German name for the company.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/02/us-uber-germany-ruling-idUSKBN0GX0OM20140902

Especially uber. Very touchy name.

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September 02, 2014, 02:01:27 PM
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conveniently left out 5th i guess.. Wink


A little too convenient. For shame.

You all may be very interested in this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346

Jl777 is just a simple c programmer who is just building a super network with nxt and btcd at its core.
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September 02, 2014, 02:20:26 PM
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Gold getting decimated.

Major breakout; to the downside.
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September 02, 2014, 03:12:50 PM
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Gold getting decimated.

Major breakout; to the downside.
Is there something like bitcoinwisdom for Gold prices?

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September 02, 2014, 04:05:52 PM
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this is big trouble; for gold.  should be great for Bitcoin:

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September 02, 2014, 04:21:03 PM
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lookin good
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September 02, 2014, 05:41:18 PM
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here come the momentum traders:

http://peterlbrandt.com/bearish-technical-case-precious-metals/
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September 02, 2014, 05:44:10 PM
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conveniently left out 5th i guess.. Wink
A little too convenient. For shame.

Well well well.  If it isn't the dynamic duo: Brilliant Mr. E and his sidekick Kootiecoon.  How come you guys always come out together?  Are you like Nxt superheroes waiting for an opportunity to pump your POS coin?





Nxt is over BTW.  It had a brief moment of glory but the market is waking up to the problem with POS coins--especially those that were distributed by "IPOs."  Those "73 stakeholders" who were awarded all the Nxt coins that would ever exist were quite possibly 1 developer + 72 sock puppets.




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September 02, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
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Glass half empty
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A little too convenient. For shame.

Well well well.  If it isn't the dynamic duo: Brilliant Mr. E and his sidekick Kootiecoon.  How come you guys always come out together?  Are you like Nxt superheroes waiting for an opportunity to pump your POS coin?





Nxt is over BTW.  It had a brief moment of glory but the market is waking up to the problem with POS--especially those that were distributed by "IPOs."  Those "73 stakeholders" who were awarded all the Nxt coins that would ever exist were quite possibly 1 developer + 72 sock puppets.




I can assure you I am not a sock puppet (neither guys like Pouncer, Neer, bybitcoin, etc).
Criticism is great but stupid arguments are not - I thought you were a serious guy...

DISCLAIMER: I own 0 NXT at the moment..

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September 02, 2014, 06:08:08 PM
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I can assure you I am not a sock puppet (neither guys like Pouncer, Neer, bybitcoin, etc).
Criticism is great but stupid arguments are not - I thought you were a serious guy...

DISCLAIMER: I own 0 NXT at the moment..

The image of Mr. E and KootieCoon as Nxt Superheroes was supposed to set a non-serious tone for my last post.  It was hyperbole.  I don't actually believe that all of the original Nxt stakeholders were sock puppets, nor do I actually believe that KootieCoon looks like Cartman and wears a racoon costume while frantically refreshing his browser as he waits for an opportunity to strike.   

The broader point I was making stands up to scrutiny: there's no way to avoid sock puppet purchases with an IPO.  Questions about the legitimacy of the distribution will always remain. 

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September 02, 2014, 06:10:54 PM
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I can assure you I am not a sock puppet (neither guys like Pouncer, Neer, bybitcoin, etc).
Criticism is great but stupid arguments are not - I thought you were a serious guy...

DISCLAIMER: I own 0 NXT at the moment..

The image of Mr. E and KootieCoon as Nxt Superheroes was supposed to set a non-serious tone for my last post.  It was hyperbole.  I don't actually believe that all of the original Nxt stakeholders were sock puppets, nor do I actually believe that KootieCoon looks like Cartman and wears a racoon costume while frantically refreshing his browser as he waits for an opportunity to strike.   

The broader point I was making stands up to scrutiny: there's no way to avoid sock puppet purchases with an IPO.  Questions about the legitimacy of the distribution will always remain. 
I was a bit harsh, apologies Smiley

You are right about a percentage of sock puppets, NEM proves this and personally I suspect that about 200-300M NXT were used from the developers to protect the network (and probably won't be sold for a long time)..

I have no proof for the above claim.

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September 02, 2014, 06:13:22 PM
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nor do I actually believe that KootieCoon looks like Cartman and wears a racoon costume while frantically refreshing his browser as he waits for an opportunity to strike

i do
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