That is a bold prediction mate.


Yes, at the start of the year we are someone feeling the bearish sentiments taking over and then the war happen and that's where the price started to make a nosedive. Then the cherry on top, the FTX collapse and suddenly the worst year for bitcoin as it went as low as $15,500. Right now the increase could go as high as $17k. If the market will continue it's ascend very slowly without any negative news around.

I'm not seeing $20k'ish this early.

Oh yes, for Loma backers here and for sure there are many from our boxing fans, it will be good to see him as the underdog, not that much though, probably in the 2.0x range or something. But still it's a good odds for us straight ML bet and just enjoy and wait for the results.

So it's a big test, and do hope that Loma is back mentally and physically. Ortiz fight is a different for him to that point that we judge him as no longer in his prime.

But I do believed that this is going to be a close fight and not going to be easy for Haney even if he turns to be the betting favorite.

I don't think he is messing though, I mean that's what he has been saying for many years, 2 rounds and he will knockout Davis. Perhaps this was due to Ryan knocking out opponents in round 1 back to back. I remember Duno, who also says that he will knock out Ryan, but he was done in round 1 and that makes Ryan very confident in knocking down his opponent early. He was crack by Luke Campbell, but he has great recuperating power from a punch, because after that big test, he was able to knockout Campbell with that huge body punch in the ribs.

And isn't it in their home court? so fans are disappointed for sure to see their team lost his big as if there was no energy on the Mavs itself. And this is what we are talking earlier that when Luka doesn't get any help, their team will be doom.

So for him to score in 23 points is not that much for team to win the game. And so we go back as who will actually need to step and help him out specially in crucial games down the line.

Loma though has started a different kind of training with his father, unorthodox, I can't confirm though, maybe he was really affected by his father not training him, can someone confirmed me if his long time trainer and coach Anatoly Lomachenko is in his side in the Ortiz fight.

So it's a mental thing for Loma right now, and that's why others said that he is no longer in his prime.

But maybe the absence of his father could have a negative impact on him, hence his poor performance, in my opinion.

Some mixers ask for donations, others charge for a small fee. I think some of them are doing promotions outside of this forum and maybe in our social media as well.

I don't think that a mixer is selling info to 3rd parties, I haven't heard this from a mixer, shutdown or still alive as of this time. Of course they have logs but they are destroyed right away as they don't keep it because they know that maybe some government agencies are watching them and they don't want to compromise their clients.

Probably, but let's see how Canelo critics will take this, for sure they will give a lot of negative press for Canelo in he chooses this fighter. Which I had to admit I have to check his boxrec to see if he is worthy.

So he is the interim WBO belt, but it doesn't matter, but now we all know what they are fighting him. It's because of his injury and yeah probably a tune up and test how his hands were after the surgery. Maybe after this one he will fight either Bivol or the winner here. Canelo as well said that he wants to fight 3x a year so that is about the possibility for this year or at least 3x fight within 12 months.

As much as we wanted to be as the main source of payments, there are a lot of challenges that we have to face, like the volatility and not everyone are willing to accept it. Not sure what you mean by paper money disappearing though, central banks are not going to allow it.

For 2023, the prediction might still be the same, it could trade sideways for the whole year as we are still in the bear market.

So still we better prepared again, who knows, maybe there could be events like FTX that will make a huge impact on the price again and see another lowest for 2023 before eventually rising up next year. But with regards to Elon Musk, he has no influence on the bitcoin market.

Lol, but yes this is true, Ryan Garcia's mouth is to big for him and probably this is the reason why he is called social media king because when he opens his mouth, it's all about hyping his fight and what not.

But he hasn't proved anything, yeah, me made a comeback and his mental issues is behind him.

Nevertheless, he hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10 or the 135 lbs to just talk smuck to Davis like that. We will see Tank's reply in his next fight against Hector Garcia this weekend.

He made a good comeback fight after that Lopez lost, he beat Nakatani and then Commey if my memory serves me right.

But against Ortiz it was a different Loma that we think he is no longer in his prime and others have said, 35 years old. So that is already a lot of wear and tear on his body. While Haney is young and very tall and a good boxer too, that's why this fight is going to be very difficult for Loma. And this could very well define his career, if ever he will beat a prime fighter.

It's obvious that the game has change a lot since the 80-90's where some of us grew watching the NBA. Perhaps we could count players reaching 40+ points around that era.

Could be that the NBA is getting softer, and sooner we might see this being the norm and who knows, if the once Kareem Abdul Jabbar's untouchable record is going to be broken by Lebron, maybe we can see Wilt's 100 points also been broken in the near future?

Definitely, dollar is the world currency so obviously where it moves, it will have a impact on every country and every economy. And so far it's been worst for US dollar globally and we can say that we are in recession this year, specially that there is still a war ongoing that involves US and it's ally against the Russians.

And so with that the traditional market and crypto as well is negatively impact. And the thing with crypto market is that it coincides with the bear market, that's why it is more evident and this is considered the worst bear market we had. So let's wait what the future will bring for us this 2023 and hopefully it's not another worse year for us.

I haven't read the blog, but this is what we know about the North Korean's as they are very active in the crypto market, using sophisticated phishing attacks to every exchange specially their counter part, the South Korean and they have successful hack them for millions already.

And they have their very well known and documented phishing group which is known to the US as Lazarus group. This group has been attributed to many attacks even before they hone in to the crypto market.

Yes, I do agree, it shouldn't be in Japan wherein Ioka is very much comfortable or at least we don't want to see another biased scoring from the judges. Might better if this is held in the US and so it will be the other way around and we will see if Ioka is that good even fighting in a place wherein he is not comfortable. Franco is the victim here so hopefully he will be the one to choose the venue and hopefully this will be in US. The best thing to do to really determine who is the winner of this fight is to have a rematch and for sure this 2 fighters want that to happen.

And that is why we talk about this new set of tennis players, they need to be consistent if they want to remain on top.

Although this is just a tune up for Zverev, it not good to look at his resume if he will be beaten by a #81 rank player in Lehecka. On the contrary, just shows that maybe Jiri is good for the next couple of years and maybe a candidate to have a break through this year.

Let's see some tune up tournaments, perhaps tennis player are still not in their from at the start of this year though, just saying.

True, and they are still on the top of West division, Grizzlies defeating the Pels resulting in a tie between this 2 teams in the second spot. And with Jokic putting this numbers, gonna be hard to see who will be the MVP as Luka is also having a statistical season, anyway still that far to talk about the MVP. What's important is that Nuggets maintain this run of them, with a healthy Murray and then Porter also back in their line up now, gonna be hard to beat this team when this kind of support system of Nikolai.

I voted for $20000 - $30000.

Probably for me this is the best scenario, I mean prior to the FTX collapse we are just about in the $20k levels. And we all know that this is the biggest support, that round numbers and most likely this might be the target of the bulls for at least the whole of next year and highs around $30k.

The price though is still very bearish and that's what we should be expecting for next year. Price could be on another sideway pattern.

^^ It doesn't matter though if that picture has been doctored or photoshop, the mere fact that he has gamble the money of others, not literally the gambling that he had to bet on a gambling site or casino, just playing along the money that he doesn't owns and loaning it to others, that is already gambling per se to me.

And if by chance he really took the money of other people and gamble it bigtime and think he will win and be able to payback, then something is really wrong with this guy. Specially given the powers that he had that time, billions of dollars, maybe he thinks he can get away with it without any consequences.

If people understand the concept of gambling that easy, then maybe there will be less gamblers as well?

The thing is even if they have this concepts in mind, I think they will still go and risk and maybe play to have some fun only, or maybe the only concept that they will hold is how lucky/unlucky they will be in they gamble. Even in we take for example sports betting, you only look at the odds for the favorite and the underdog, and yet the risk for the underdog is high but there are still people who are willing to take the risk and bet on that long shot.

I look at the compubox numbers and it seems that it is also close, Franco throws a lot of punch, but Ioka is more consistent.

Nevertheless, since this is Japan so expect some biases judge in favor of the hometown hero. I know it's kinda disappointed to see a fight end in a draw with no winner and both keeping the belts, but the judge score is final here and will not be reverse in my opinion. Good fight though to end the year and most likely there could be a rematch so settle once and for all the winner between this two warriors.