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1641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 01, 2023, 12:14:14 PM
My fear about arsenal is that they find it so difficult to score more goals, most of their wins is a near escape which normally ends with a difference of one goal. Honestly their is nothing new concerning the performance of arsenal, they still play their games in the same pattern,  I just feel they may still end up just like they did last season.  If arsenal really want to get the Premier league championship I think they should learn to score more goals  against their opponents.  I think this will really help them to  be very sure if they can get the title for next season. This a second chance for arsenal to win the league again that they shouldn't miss.

Arsenal scored 27 goals in 13 rounds, which is enough even to take 100% of the points. By the way, this is only 6 goals less than City scored, and if we take into account that Arsenal conceded three goals less than City, then the difference finally becomes insignificant. Now Arsenal have the best defense in the league and one of the best attacks, this is enough to take the title, the only thing that worries me is how long they can show this performance.
In the next round we are rooting for Tottenham (in favor of Arsenal and Liverpool haha).
1642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 01, 2023, 12:07:57 PM
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I wonder why Real are higher than City - City have virtually no weaknesses, while Real have them (at least on paper). In my opinion, the top three should look like: City, Bayern, Real Madrid.
City is a nightmare for opponents since they seem to have no weaknesses. But it's not surprising that Real Madrid stays at the top. They keep up their flawless Champions League performance with 5 wins out of 5. Real Madrid is killing it this season – 1st in La Liga, 1st in the UCL group stage. Even with injuries to key players, Madrid has stayed consistent.

City also have 5 wins from 5 games in the group and although they are not currently leaders in the Premier League, their chances of winning the title are rated as 1.1, while Real's chances of winning the La Liga title are rated as 1.5. It is obvious to me who is the stronger team here (even on paper) and unfortunately it is not Real Madrid. Thank God the injured players should already be back in action by the time the meeting between Real and City in the Champions League becomes possible.
1643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: December 01, 2023, 12:02:49 PM
enteres my picks for this round early on
with all considered, Leverkusen vs Dortmund will probably be most interesting match this round, and could be a good to watch

if Leverkusen overcome Dortmund with a win, they are putting high their ambitions, it does seem that they have quality, but winning all-round domestically and in Europe does require more depth in the squad

If Bayer wins, it will be their 9th victory in a row (in the Bundesliga) and Dortmund's 3rd defeat in a row. I really like Bayer and would like it to win, but I chose Dortmund because I don't think these strange series should go on for so long. If Bayer still wins, I will be glad that I was mistaken, the only unpleasant option for me will be a draw.
1644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 01, 2023, 11:55:52 AM
Now it seems everything is over for Liverpool and Salah and even Liverpool doesn't have any hope for keeping Salah in this team for a longer time and that's why they want to use other players. Liverpool wants to hire Mbappe and they need huge money to hire this French paly3er and that's why Liverpool wants to sell Salah and from selling Salah to Saudis use the money they got for hiring Mbappe from PSG however I'm not sure if this plan ever works for Liverpool.



Considering Real Madrid's interest in Mbappe, luring him to Liverpool will be both difficult and expensive. The ideal option for all parties (except City haha) would be for Haaland to move to Real Madrid and Mbappe to Liverpool. In this option, Liverpool would not have to overpay for Mbappe since Real would have enough of Haaland and Mbappe does not have any other good options. Therefore, it is in Liverpool's interests to begin preparing Haaland's transfer to Real Madrid  Grin
1645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: December 01, 2023, 11:36:15 AM
Do you want to say that Germany has already fallen below the "that" Greece and so low that they cannot claim the title? My point of view is precisely that although Germany has fallen, but from the area where it now also sometimes champions comes out. In addition, we must expect a return to the average from Germany. Plus, taking into account the fact that the number of shitty tournaments has increased and led to the fact that the ratings have lost their at least some accuracy, I would not rely on them.

Agreed on the accuracy of rankings. Sometimes I find it very odd and difficult to agree to. But then, there is no doubt that Germany has been on the decline for more than a decade. Very few European teams have maintained their quality and in my mind only England and France are there. Spain and Italy are in rebuilding phase, so I would rather not comment on them. Others such as Danmark, Netherlands, Germany, Greece, Belgium, Serbia, Switzerland and Sweden has been on the rapid decline for the last several years.

I think that Belgium has a recession ahead, the current generation (which was considered golden) has not yet left and theoretically they still have a couple of tournaments to show themselves. The fact that Belgium does not win anything is a random question, as they play well. I think that Portugal unexpectedly went through the restructuring phase without a decline - they have a lot of young players and when the last guards leave (Ronaldo, Pepe) the team will not weaken.
1646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 01, 2023, 07:31:36 AM
Congratulations to Liverpool for the wonders they displayed in their home to scored goals that reduced their opponent strength not to achieve a single goal from the match despite some changes their manager made to stopped Liverpool victory. Many people made huge amount of money from their prediction, because they knew that Lask will not withstand Liverpool that disgrace many strong teams in other competitions to stand in good position for the whole world to know how strong they are in this season. As it stand now in the group E, I don't think there is any team in this group that can withstand Liverpool to stop them not to qualify in this UEFA Europa league competition because they have what it takes to maintain a good performance till the end of this tournament.

In the previous round, Toulouse beat Liverpool and many people probably lost money  Wink
This Europa League, there is increased randomness and you can’t be sure of anything. In addition, even in the Champions League in the last round, Bayern could not beat Copenhagen at home - quite unexpected, right? Betting on such games is very dangerous because the odds are small 1.1-1.2 and one unsuccessful game destroys the results of many of your winnings.
1647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 01, 2023, 07:23:05 AM
Colleagues, what do you think about the bet on Napoli with odds of 2.9 in the game Napoli - Inter? It seems to me that the risk is justified since Inter is in decline (minimal wins + conceding a lot of goals on average in recent games), and Napoli’s failures should end (wishfull thinking from me, yeah). Plus there is also an irrational argument in the form of the fact that Serie A has been very random in recent years, so to maintain randomness, Inter and Juventus should now lose points, and Napoli and Milan gain.
1648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 01, 2023, 07:09:32 AM
I don't think, Tottenham Hotspur will end up in third position in this premier league for you to know how strong Manchester city are to return back to the first position soon, because Arsenal don't have the strength to maintain the position till the end of the season. Tottenham Hotspur started this season well but since Chelsea defeated them 4-1, that is when they started experiencing poor performance that made them to be in this current position that will give Manchester city hope to defeat them again in their next match. I know Erling Haaland will definitely embrace opportunity in this match to score two goals that will give them the access to achieve victory from Tottenham Hotspur at the end of the match.

Bookmaker quotes for this game are currently as follows:

1.3 - 6.2 - 9.5

In my opinion it is very unfair to Tottenham. Yes, they are underdogs in this game, but one way or another they are not so bad that they cannot win at least one game out of 9. I think betting on Tottenham here looks like an easy decision if we play long-term (in terms of distance) bets.
I hope Tottenham at least doesn’t lose and Arsenal will strengthen their leadership and City will fall to third place.
1649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 01, 2023, 07:02:07 AM
Goal has been ranked the teams based on their power

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/champions-league-2023-24-power-rankings/

1. Real madrid
2. Manchester city
3. Arsenal
4. Bayern
5. Intermilan

To be honest, i would value intermilan far stronger compared with arsenal and it shall be in the third place. Seeing intermilan was able reaching UCL final last season but arsenal was not even entering into the UCL. In my opinion, the author's assessment of Arsenal's score seems somewhat unusual.

The thing that surprises me that if author has been placing manchester united as the weakest team in the UCL so far. It's only above braga which is a shame. I fully agreed with the author regarding the position of manchester united.

United is now a mediocre team in UCL. It's finished now and united has probably 10% chance to qualify for the knock out stage. It shows that how garbage manchester united under ten hag.

Quite a normal assessment (pair Arsenal - Inter). Arsenal are consistently good in the Premier League and in the group stage of the Champions League Arsenal are also playing convincingly. And Inter, although playing well in Serie A, is poor in the group stage - at the moment they are losing the group to Sociedad and all their victories were won with a minimum score.
I wonder why Real are higher than City - City have virtually no weaknesses, while Real have them (at least on paper). In my opinion, the top three should look like: City, Bayern, Real Madrid.
1650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Using AI for betting predictions on: December 01, 2023, 06:52:36 AM
I have a developer who recently stumbled on multiple AI he uses for sport betting predictions, he uses it to generate sport bettings but none of the bets gets to be accurate as it generates tens of games. but when used to generate a much lesser number of games the predictions are sometimes  correct, at least 3 in 10 predictions of "multiple" bets.

But he loves having 30+ games "multiple" bet to win big amount and so far it has been a challenge in the last 5-6 weeks as his winnings have drastically dropped.


Should AI be relied on for sport betting predictions?

I think your friend just fell for the trick of scammers who sell “correct” predictions for sporting events. Nowadays AI is in trend and scammers, naturally, when selling forecasts, for greater credibility, write that these forecasts were made by AI.
Your friend should stop paying money to scammers and either think for himself or quit betting (in any case, there is no earnings here, only entertainment).
1651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: December 01, 2023, 06:46:37 AM
I see Little Mouse like I forgot to get 2 points from the Bayern game, but that doesn't stop him from strengthening his lead, nice!  Cool
I wouldn't get a single point because this would be a draw pick for me. So, it doesn't change anything for me  Grin Was lucky to get the 1st position back.


I too want to congratulate you. First position, that's impressive. 29 points separate me from you, while only 16 from the bottom position. Like anyone here I want to be the first. But let's be realistic. Do I have a chance? Smiley

Well, we have 34 matchdays in total, so, theoretically, I do have a chance. Will try to make my predictions more accurate in the future. It's a tough competition ahead.

If we assume that the average number of points per round is around 10, then you are behind by 3 rounds, which is quite serious and such a gap is difficult to make up.
On the other hand, if you consider that abnormal winning results for tours are around 25 points, then literally a couple of victories can return you to business, almost to first place (if your competitors are not too successful).
In general, it’s too early to give up competing for first place.
1652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League Pool ⚽ Discussion Thread on: December 01, 2023, 06:40:53 AM
When we think about Onana's performance in both Galatasaray matches in the Champions League as well I still can't believe that he collected 18 points. When we think that the Turkish national goalkeeper Altay who was transferred this season hasn't played in even 1 official match yet too maybe Manchester United might need to think of transferring a goalkeeper in January.

Onana made a lot of mistakes in other games, but the second goalkeeper did not get a single chance to prove himself. I think the point is not that he is bad, but that Ten Hag will never admit that he made a mistake with Onana’s transfer.
Ten Hag's focus on himself infuriates me, he literally puts himself above the club, but for some reason in his case they allow him to do this (for now).
1653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 10:05:20 PM
Coincidence or not, the game was broken by Ten Hag's substitutions, I don't know why he decided to make a double substitution when United were in the lead? Well, Onana is most likely to blame for the second goal.
United can now only hope for the Europa League, as in order to qualify for the 1/8 there must be too many other favorable results for United, and I am not even sure that United can beat Bayern for which this game will mean nothing.
I also don't understand why Ten Hag did that, maybe will be better if made a substitution in the 70' or 80'. When Manchester United lead for quite a long time minutes. But he substitution double players in the 58', maybe he want to try pressure Galatasaray. But unfortunately the tactics he made didn't work as they should, although there were many more opportunities in the second half than first half, but they couldn't make a scored. Perhaps United needed is a major miracle.

By the way, I was surprised in the match between Bayern Munich vs Copenhagen, Bayern Munich couldn't win at home against Copenhagen. Well, although the reality this match will not affect Bayern Munich position, but at least they can won at home.

With a score of 3-1, it is reasonable to wait to see what the opponent will do and make a counter move, but Ten Hag began to correct what was working well  Grin
And by the way, despite the fact that the game did not have any significance for Bayern, Muller said that he was angry because of this result (I think his opinion reflects the opinion of the team) and now in the United - Bayern game the Munich team will be motivated. Therefore, United's chances of winning against Bayern, and in the parallel game Copenhagen drawing with Galatasaray, turn to dust.
1654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 30, 2023, 10:00:13 PM
In terms of the Epl title race I think Liverpool might be the favourite for the trophy, they usually try to beat all odds to get a win or a draw which shows their determination is beyond every other team. Last season was a difficult one for Liverpool but I think they are back while Arsenal and man City shouldn't be seen as the only title favourite. In comparison of the three, for me Arsenal has always been inconsistent every so they will probably do the same this season and drop more points especially during ending of the season while at that point Man City and Liverpool are more likely to be the title contenders

Here's what bookmakers think about it:

Manchester City 1.10

Arsenal 1.83

Liverpool 2.38

If you really believe Liverpool will win, then you should bet. By the way, I don’t think these quotes are fair - City’s chances should be significantly lower (and the odds higher accordingly), but I don’t think that Liverpool can be the favorite in this trio. However, I will be happy to be wrong and no matter who wins the title other than City, I will be happy with any outcome.
1655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 30, 2023, 09:52:08 PM
Grin 0-3 after the first 45 minutes against Benfica (which scored exactly zero points before this game) and it looks like first place will go to Sociedad, and Inter risks getting to the top team right away in the 1/8. Despite local successes, Inter is still far from the European top clubs, and although theoretically they can win the Champions League, the likelihood of this is very small.
Inter comeback with 3 goals back in the second half but indeed for the position of Group winner is still owned by Sociedad in this case although there is still a chance to reclaim in the last match where they will face each other.
Inter did not do well in the first half because Joao Mario looked very easy to put a goal to Inter in the first half even it was hatrick in this match.
Fortunately the second half they made some buzz which in the end was profitable with 3 goals in return but this is not very good for Benfica because with a draw in this match the chances of being in the europa league are difficult for them because if they want to be there they have to win by 4 goals or more against Salzburg.

For Inter I am still pretty sure they are in the group in the last game because even though Sociedad are strong but Inter will try to win in their home game.

Yes, Inter was able to come back, but losing 0-3 after the first half is a little too much for a serious team. And if it had been like with City - Leipzig 0-2 then 3-2, but here Inter could only earn a point. Now in the last game Inter will only need to win to take first place (and avoid a potential meeting with one of the favorites of the tournament right away in the 1/8) so Sociedad will play in comfortable conditions.
1656  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Newcastle + Southampton + São Paulo ⚽ (Saturday, 2 December) on: November 30, 2023, 09:40:38 PM
Game 1:  45, 10'
Game 2:  45, 10'
Game 3:  45, 10'
1657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 09:24:21 PM
Liverpool played well in the first half, they were able to score two goals already which has made the work easy for them to finish on top of the group ahead of Toulouse.

The group E team matches is interesting to watch, because as expected, Liverpool is leading after winning todays match while Toulouse if they were able to win today against Union Saint, they will qualify to the round of 32.

The rather predictable victory of Liverpool, in my opinion nothing interesting. Another expected victory in the game Hacken vs Bayer. Now Bayer is the leader with a score of 1-0 and if it wins, then it will be the fifth victory in five group stage games and their general victorious series will become even longer. I am impressed.
It is strange that Roma is experiencing problems with Servett (currently score is 1-1) I think they are interested in taking first place in the group and avoid additional games.
1658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 30, 2023, 09:09:52 PM
Even the Greek national team won the Euro (or in the past you can remember Denmark), has Germany really become weaker than such tenacious but average teams? I doubt it. Belgium had a whole golden generation (which is about to end or has already ended, according to the KDB), but they did not win anything at all. A lot is decided by randomness and if tomorrow Germany wins gold they will begin to praise it to the skies even though it will be the same team as today.

Not an apple-to-apple comparison. Greece might have win the Euro Cup in the past. But they never managed to get to the top-5 list in FIFA rankings. The peak they reached was when they were ranked #8 in 2008. On the other hand, Germany was always regarded as one of the powerhouses in football along with England and France in Europe. Even as late as 2018, they were the no.1 ranked team as per FIFA. From that position, their rapid downfall has been nothing short of unbelievable. And currently they are not even in top-10 (current rank is #16 as per FIFA).

Do you want to say that Germany has already fallen below the "that" Greece and so low that they cannot claim the title? My point of view is precisely that although Germany has fallen, but from the area where it now also sometimes champions comes out. In addition, we must expect a return to the average from Germany. Plus, taking into account the fact that the number of shitty tournaments has increased and led to the fact that the ratings have lost their at least some accuracy, I would not rely on them.
1659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 30, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
Leading the Brazilian national team now is a win-win option for any coach - they are a strong team, but for various reasons (and because of randomness) they have not won anything for a long time. With a little luck, Brazil could well take the title. Even a third-rate Copa America would be a great achievement, and if Brazil became world champions again the coach would be idolized. By the way, this is a kind of gambling, but gambling with a positive mathematical expectation.
Any decisions in the football are gambling. People can't really sure if coach or players were taking the right decision. This is why we are calling it as speculation. Real madrid is still preparing a new offer for ancelotti to stay. He may also try to cancel his movement toward brazil national club.
I would prefer to see ancellotti to stay even longer in real madrid rather than seeing him leave from el real. Ancellotti has got its perfect squad again. This coach is so amazing like pep guardiola or jose mourinho.

We shall stop to dream him to go to the brazil. Ancellotti will stay here for another season. Real madrid's offer will make brazil unable to hijack ancellotti from the club. Ancellotti loves madrid and he is also willing to stay.

As reported by https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/ancelotti-stays-silent-amid-brazil-v-real-madrid-tug-war-2023-11-28/

Ancellotti is still silent regarding his future but im sure that he will not be going there. Ancellotti is stay in madrid.

Maybe any solution is gambling and there is always a place of chance, but some decisions will bring you profit with a probability of 10% and others with a probability of 90%. Plus there is a difference in prizes and it seems to me that in this case the prize is very large. As for Anchalotti, I think no one doubts his qualifications, it is only not clear to me why you mentioned Guardiola with Mourinho and Ancelotti. The last two proved their qualifications in difficult situations, but Guardiola initially received gold squads and even after that he flooded everything with money.
1660  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🥊 Garcia vs Duarte 🥊 (Saturday, 2 December) on: November 30, 2023, 08:50:21 PM
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