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January 21, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
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So I'm damned?

But what if I'm a good man?
I mean, I love my wife, I'm a faithful husband. I love my family and my friends. I always help my neighbors if I can.
But if I don't believe in the good God (cause every religion claims its God is the good one) I'm damned to Hell?

How do you know the meaning of the word love if you don't have faith?


Best regards.

The fact that all I want is here to be happy and that I'm ready to die for her and that I can't imagine living without her and that she makes me so happy by just staying by my side. Isn't it love?

I asked you about the source of the meaning of the word amen and you didn't replied (you didn't post sources about the meaning of the word amen).
I asked you about the meaning of the word love and you blab about your sentiment to your wife, putting practically your wife in the middle.

I ask you a third question since you did not replied to my previous two: do you understand English?


Best regards.


You didn't ask the first one. Oxford dictionnary says: Old English, from ecclesiastical Latin, from Greek amēn, from Hebrew 'āmēn 'truth, certainty', used adverbially as expression of agreement, and adopted in the Septuagint as a solemn expression of belief or affirmation.

I gave you my definition of love. If you don't like it give me yours.

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January 21, 2016, 05:49:39 PM
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You didn't ask the first one. Oxford dictionnary says: Old English, from ecclesiastical Latin, from Greek amēn, from Hebrew 'āmēn 'truth, certainty', used adverbially as expression of agreement, and adopted in the Septuagint as a solemn expression of belief or affirmation.

I gave you my definition of love. If you don't like it give me yours.

Yes.

If you post a definition post the link. That is called netiquette.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology

You give definition of loving not love: loving is a verb, love is a thing.

When you define your love for your wife (why not your family?!?) you define the act of loving taking my God, transforming him into a verb and explaining by example.

After having used my God you will return it to me completely screwed because you don't have faith in God.

You could have done that if you had faith in God, since you don't, your definition is about loving and not love.

Defining loving and not love is not what I asked for.

You didn't replied to my question.


Best regards.


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January 21, 2016, 05:54:32 PM
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You didn't ask the first one. Oxford dictionnary says: Old English, from ecclesiastical Latin, from Greek amēn, from Hebrew 'āmēn 'truth, certainty', used adverbially as expression of agreement, and adopted in the Septuagint as a solemn expression of belief or affirmation.

I gave you my definition of love. If you don't like it give me yours.

Yes.

If you post a definition post the link. That is called netiquette.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology

You give definition of loving not love: loving is a verb, love is a thing.

When you define your love for your wife (why not your family?!?) you define the act of loving taking my God, transforming him into a verb and explaining by example.

After having used my God you will return it to me completely screwed because you don't have faith in God.

You could have done that if you had faith in God, since you don't, your definition is about loving and not love.

Defining loving and not love is not what I asked for.

You didn't replied to my question.


Best regards.

Well love is the feeling I get through the verb loving.. You can't define a feeling. It's up to everyone to have his own definition.

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January 21, 2016, 06:14:54 PM
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You didn't ask the first one. Oxford dictionnary says: Old English, from ecclesiastical Latin, from Greek amēn, from Hebrew 'āmēn 'truth, certainty', used adverbially as expression of agreement, and adopted in the Septuagint as a solemn expression of belief or affirmation.

I gave you my definition of love. If you don't like it give me yours.

Yes.

If you post a definition post the link. That is called netiquette.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_in_technology

You give definition of loving not love: loving is a verb, love is a thing.

When you define your love for your wife (why not your family?!?) you define the act of loving taking my God, transforming him into a verb and explaining by example.

After having used my God you will return it to me completely screwed because you don't have faith in God.

You could have done that if you had faith in God, since you don't, your definition is about loving and not love.

Defining loving and not love is not what I asked for.

You didn't replied to my question.


Best regards.

Well love is the feeling I get through the verb loving.. You can't define a feeling. It's up to everyone to have his own definition.

I didn't asked you anything: why you had the idea of giving your own definition?


Best regards.


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January 21, 2016, 06:19:59 PM
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Well love is the feeling I get through the verb loving.. You can't define a feeling. It's up to everyone to have his own definition.

I didn't asked you anything: why you had the idea of giving your own definition?


Best regards.

You kidding me? -_-
"How do you know the meaning of the word love if you don't have faith?"

Just answered you...

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Well love is the feeling I get through the verb loving.. You can't define a feeling. It's up to everyone to have his own definition.

I didn't asked you anything: why you had the idea of giving your own definition?


Best regards.

You kidding me? -_-
"How do you know the meaning of the word love if you don't have faith?"

Just answered you...

Ok: you are correcting a answer that was not an answer before.

You cannot use my God to feel because you don't have my same God.

If you use the verb loving to feel love you are using my God the problem is that you are giving back not the God that I gave you but your wife (with your love in it). Because without the Faith in God you will steal my God from me and return me anything.

Is that clear?


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January 21, 2016, 06:35:28 PM
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Well love is the feeling I get through the verb loving.. You can't define a feeling. It's up to everyone to have his own definition.

I didn't asked you anything: why you had the idea of giving your own definition?


Best regards.

You kidding me? -_-
"How do you know the meaning of the word love if you don't have faith?"

Just answered you...

Ok: you are correcting a answer that was not an answer before.

You cannot use my God to feel because you don't have my same God.

If you use the verb loving to feel love you are using my God the problem is that you are giving back not the God that I gave you but your wife (with your love in it). Because without the Faith in God you will steal my God from me and return me anything.

Is that clear?


Best regards.

No, but seems like we can't really talk ^^

We're too different, but I wish you the best.

Best regards.

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January 21, 2016, 06:56:17 PM
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HEre we are!

You're just a religious stupid asshole. Like every religious freak you think a fucking book written by peasants 2 000 years ago has the truth xD
Thanks. And you are simply an ignorant religious atheist who...


Well go on with your god, I'll go on with my science. Just don't try to prove God with science.
... for whatever reason won't look at the truth of science to see that God is proven by science, and therefore...


And if God exists, he's either a complete asshole, or doesn't care about us.
... as you have been unwilling in the past to learn about the great goodness God is showing us, and why and how He is doing such goodness...


Just a question, everything in the Bible is true then?

... and by the sound of it, you aren't going to start looking for God, now that you have been shown the truth... that God exists.

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Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. See that? I don't give a fuck about God ^^

But just tell me, if science proves the existence of God, why the most a country is educated (so know things in science), the less it believes in God?

For the simple reason that God sent Jesus, His Son, to die on the cross to save people. So that the people who want to be saved will be the ones who believe in God, while the ones who want to be damned will not believe in Him, no matter how cross-eyed they get, avoiding the science that shows God, while investigation all the detailed aspects of that same science.

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So you think that it's ok to kill another person so you can be forgiven for your wrong doings?
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January 21, 2016, 06:58:56 PM
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No, but seems like we can't really talk ^^

We're too different, but I wish you the best.

Best regards.

Atheism is a sin.

There is nothing to discuss here.


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January 21, 2016, 09:17:34 PM
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Define Loving: my God is speaking about love all around in his book.

What is love for you?


Best regards.

rom the same source:

Loving (adjective)
* feeling or showing love
* very careful and thorough



I asked you what is love.

What is love for you?

Are you able to answer my question?


Best regards.

No, you asked for a defintion of "loving", not "love".

However, since you asked so nicely, here's a definition of "love":

love, noun
1. A strong feeling of affection "babies fill parents with intense feelings of love"
synonyms:   deep affection, fondness, tenderness, warmth, intimacy, attachment, endearment
2. A great interest and pleasure in something.
"his love for football"
synonyms:   liking, weakness, partiality, bent, leaning, proclivity, inclination, disposition


love, verb
1. feel deep affection or sexual love for (someone). "do you love me?"
synonyms:   be in love with, be infatuated with, be smitten with, be besotted with, be passionate about



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No, you asked for a defintion of "loving", not "love".

However, since you asked so nicely, here's a definition of "love":

love, noun
1. A strong feeling of affection "babies fill parents with intense feelings of love"
synonyms:   deep affection, fondness, tenderness, warmth, intimacy, attachment, endearment
2. A great interest and pleasure in something.
"his love for football"
synonyms:   liking, weakness, partiality, bent, leaning, proclivity, inclination, disposition


love, verb
1. feel deep affection or sexual love for (someone). "do you love me?"
synonyms:   be in love with, be infatuated with, be smitten with, be besotted with, be passionate about





Define Loving: my God is speaking about love all around in his book.

What is love for you?


Best regards.

I asked what is love not loving.

Remember to put also the source (link) on the definition, otherwise this is only you saying this and not a definition.

Thank You for your saying of the word love.

Best regards.


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January 21, 2016, 09:46:19 PM
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No, you asked for a defintion of "loving", not "love".

However, since you asked so nicely, here's a definition of "love":

love, noun
1. A strong feeling of affection "babies fill parents with intense feelings of love"
synonyms:   deep affection, fondness, tenderness, warmth, intimacy, attachment, endearment
2. A great interest and pleasure in something.
"his love for football"
synonyms:   liking, weakness, partiality, bent, leaning, proclivity, inclination, disposition


love, verb
1. feel deep affection or sexual love for (someone). "do you love me?"
synonyms:   be in love with, be infatuated with, be smitten with, be besotted with, be passionate about





Define Loving: my God is speaking about love all around in his book.

What is love for you?


Best regards.

I asked what is love not loving.

You wrote:
Define Loving

So I defined "Loving"

Remember to put also the source (link) on the definition, otherwise this is only you saying this and not a definition.

Thank You for your saying of the word love.

Best regards.

Why put a source link? You asked what it meant to *me*, not what the dictionary defines "Love" as. Why does the source matter?


Are you going to make a point sometime soon?




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You wrote:
Define Loving

So I defined "Loving"

That was a statement not a question.

There was no question mark ("?"), that means my statement "define Loving" was a statement not a question.

Remember to put also the source (link) on the definition, otherwise this is only you saying this and not a definition.

Thank You for your saying of the word love.

Best regards.

Why put a source link? You asked what it meant to *me*, not what the dictionary defines "Love" as. Why does the source matter?


Are you going to make a point sometime soon?


Again: cause we don't have the same God we are not talking the same language.

That explains the misunderstanding.


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You wrote:
Define Loving

So I defined "Loving"

That was a statement not a question.

There was no question mark ("?"), that means my statement "define Loving" was a statement not a question.

Remember to put also the source (link) on the definition, otherwise this is only you saying this and not a definition.

Thank You for your saying of the word love.

Best regards.

Why put a source link? You asked what it meant to *me*, not what the dictionary defines "Love" as. Why does the source matter?


Are you going to make a point sometime soon?


Again: cause we don't have the same God we are not talking the same language.

That explains the misunderstanding.


Best regards.

I also defined "love" but you didn't even make a comment about that.

I answered your question. You asked me do define a word and I did. So ...

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January 21, 2016, 10:17:54 PM
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I also defined "love" but you didn't even make a comment about that.

I answered your question. You asked me do define a word and I did. So ...

What's the point you are trying to make?

Maybe I can help you.


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I also defined "love" but you didn't even make a comment about that.

I answered your question. You asked me do define a word and I did. So ...

What's the point you are trying to make?

Maybe I can help you.


Best regards.

You asked me to define some words. I did that for you. Were you going anywhere with that, or do you just enjoy asking people to define words for you?

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You asked me to define some words. I did that for you. Were you going anywhere with that, or do you just enjoy asking people to define words for you?

That's not a point.


What's the point you are trying to make?

Maybe I can help you.


Best regards.


Best regards.


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You asked me to define some words. I did that for you. Were you going anywhere with that, or do you just enjoy asking people to define words for you?

That's not a point.


What's the point you are trying to make?

Maybe I can help you.


Best regards.


Best regards.

You can help me by telling me why you asked me to define "loving" and then "love" for you.


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I was trying to speak in a more general way.

Today what phenomenon can we observe to argument in favor of the existence of God? Nothing, the only mystery here is the origin of the creation of the universe. Which is not really a "daily phenomenon".
Thousands of years ago, everyday phenomenons could be explained only by the existence of gods. How could a woman give birth? Gods of fertility. How can the sun shine so bright and go throw the sky? Gods bringing a huge fireball. How storms lightning and volcanic eruptions appear? Gods Gods and Gods.

Coincidences, accidents, etc happen daily and religious people interpret them as acts of god. Many still don't believe in evolution. So hold the variety of life they see as proof of god. Others believe the origin of the universe can never be understood. So more proof of god for them. We know differently. But it's their choice to believe that. It's their faith. Maybe if we go back far enough there were cultures that didn't have any other explanations except gods like you say. So maybe faith wasn't as needed to believe in the supernatural because there weren't competing explanations for most things. But we know religion didn't play a big part in all cultures. Some had almost no rituals. Some no gods. So faith didn't have to play a big role in daily life for everyone. But cultures where religion and faith played a big part in people's lives it was their choice that it did.

Of course some had great explanations, it was the case for the most cultivated individuals and lots of scientists and philosophers were probably atheists. But it depends a lot of the period of time you're talking about (because Greek kingdom and Roman Empire cover a long period) and which part of the population.

From the beginning of the period you said, ancient greece, they already had lots of alternative explanations for what they saw in daily life. Atomism like I said for example. That's back in the 5th century bc. India had something similar to atomism around that time too. Before that there were explanations for natural phenomena like lightning, earthquakes, the sun, etc without gods. Maybe those ideas weren't more talked about because of connections to atheism and the risk of death or exile. Or maybe it was more difficult to spread those ideas because they didn't have the practical applications they have today. So it didn't matter much if gods were doing things or if it was something natural. But choosing to believe the more complicated explanation of gods doing things needs faith.
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Atheist hate religion because they cant understand why would they worship someone who isn't there and hasn't done anything in the world, but the only evidence he have is the word of the people who tends to exaggerate things over the year's. I'm a Christian, but sometime I question his existence.

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