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October 02, 2020, 07:52:36 AM

Serious question. In the (1 out of 10,000 chance) event that Trump dies, will Pence be forced to nuke China for taking out our Commander in Chief?

Or perhaps Trump could have caught Corona on purpose after doing so badly in the debate. His plan would be to go into a bunker, fight a nuclear war with China, then declare a never ending state of emergency and crowning himself President for Life for the surviving population.

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October 02, 2020, 08:02:47 AM
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Just throwing it out there that maybe Trump + wife don’t have covid & it’s a tactical play to help him win the election. Just an idea, either way he’ll be fine because he isn’t 80+ with moderate to severe pre-existing health conditions.
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October 02, 2020, 08:03:52 AM

Serious question. In the (1 out of 10,000 chance) event that Trump dies, will Pence be forced to nuke China for taking out our Commander in Chief?

Odds of death would probably be closer to 1/50, maybe even quite a bit greater than that for someone who is in such age group.. maybe even other underlying health factors that might not be being disclosed, also.

On the other hand, if we assume he gets the best of treatment (not blood letting because we are in "modern times"), maybe the odds would lower to something in the 1/100 to 1/200 arena... but 1/10,000 odds seems way too low.

Regarding your second question, of course, you are not serious... should not be treating trolls as if serious, even on the face of the question it could hardly be serious.


Just throwing it out there that maybe Trump + wife don’t have covid & it’s a tactical play to help him win the election. Just an idea, either way he’ll be fine because he isn’t 80+ with moderate to severe pre-existing health conditions.

Actually, you might be correct that he does not actually have it.  It could be a sympathy play.

If he does have it, personally, I would not assume that he is as healthy as he proclaims himself to be.
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October 02, 2020, 08:11:57 AM

Just throwing it out there that maybe Trump + wife don’t have covid & it’s a tactical play to help him win the election. Just an idea, either way he’ll be fine because he isn’t 80+ with moderate to severe pre-existing health conditions.

The timing is odd. Trump did say he was taking Hydroxy so he might just be taking over the news cycle so he can claim that he recovered fast w no symptoms due to Hydroxy.

Most likely he is completely fine and doesn't die of covid unless he is hit by a bus. That would be a coronasniffle death of course.

Im just glad he did have something actually dangerous happen to him like a snake bite.  Cheesy
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October 02, 2020, 08:20:50 AM
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The monthly update:



September 2020 - so far no storm in sight, but it is getting colder for sure.

Unreal, another month already passed. Autumn has arrived, orange turned into red. Down 7.55 %, 117 pages to catch up. Does everything go down the drain? No! We are 50% up this year and I will have this month my first week off this year. Really looking forward to read you soon!

Gentlemen, I hope you are doing fine and start enjoying the season in comfort! Smiley
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Thank you for your update.
It would be interesting to have the temporary "HODL" each monthly update instead of getting it only at the end of the year...
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October 02, 2020, 08:22:33 AM

Just throwing it out there that maybe Trump + wife don’t have covid & it’s a tactical play to help him win the election. Just an idea, either way he’ll be fine because he isn’t 80+ with moderate to severe pre-existing health conditions.

The timing is odd. Trump did say he was taking Hydroxy so he might just be taking over the news cycle so he can claim that he recovered fast w no symptoms due to Hydroxy.

Most likely he is completely fine and doesn't die of covid unless he is hit by a bus. That would be a coronasniffle death of course.

Im just glad he did have something actually dangerous happen to him like a snake bite.  Cheesy

Whatever, if he has it or not.... Trump has his cleaning vaccins so NP there ...
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October 02, 2020, 08:32:35 AM
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he he

Now, that planB scheme is being widely criticized as unrealistic or even unscientific, the crowd will tend to become much less wild in anticipation...and then btc would outperform.
If everybody are sitting counting their imaginary funds at $100K or above by Dec 2021, it would NOT do it.

If you mean with everybody, the atm 1% or less involved in BTC from current population, then yes we wouldn't get their.... But I see more and more growing intrest... If the model of planB will not work out exactly as he says is probably 100% accurate. But how he sees things, compare things and write them down, thats exactly what people need to see, to understand what BTC is compared with already existing assets and just the S2F talk is something that opens eyes imo.... Of-course BTC probably will not ride the model exactly, still doesn't take away that his point of view is a nice approach and good speculation...
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October 02, 2020, 08:35:58 AM

Just throwing it out there that maybe Trump + wife don’t have covid & it’s a tactical play to help him win the election. Just an idea, either way he’ll be fine because he isn’t 80+ with moderate to severe pre-existing health conditions.

The timing is odd. Trump did say he was taking Hydroxy so he might just be taking over the news cycle so he can claim that he recovered fast w no symptoms due to Hydroxy.

Most likely he is completely fine and doesn't die of covid unless he is hit by a bus. That would be a coronasniffle death of course.

Im just glad he did have something actually dangerous happen to him like a snake bite.  Cheesy

Whatever, if he has it or not.... Trump has his cleaning vaccins so NP there ...

Yes, a small price for him to pay for having sex with his assistant Hope Hicks. Thats the real story here. Melania will forgive him, bc she also was having sex with Hope.
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October 02, 2020, 09:07:52 AM

Institutional investors around me really like the digital euro and central bank digital currencies (CBDC), but remember:

CBDC = IOU (debt, with credit risk, which can be debased).

Bitcoin = cash (bearer instrument, without credit risk, which can't be debased).

BIG difference!

https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1311922525375549441?s=20
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October 02, 2020, 09:09:41 AM
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Fundamentally the market is scared for all the wrong reasons.

MEX did NOT get hacked. No traders will lose coins.

Futures exchanges will clean up their practices.

We'll see less volatility, less scam-wicking, more spot volumes, more organic moves, more institutional money.
https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1311941304532627456?s=20

Meanwhile the on-chain fundamentals are showing more new investors are coming in than the mania phase of the last cycle (Dec 2017), without it reflected in price. This is because the unfettered trading games on derivative platforms is holding the price down.
https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1311941306818555904?s=20

The CFTC just announced they are turning the volume down on unregulated derivative exchanges and their dominance on price.

BTC is going to pop.
https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1311941309007970306?s=20

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October 02, 2020, 09:44:34 AM
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EU is going full steam digital €


they list the reasons it could become necessary to issue a digital € and the most interesting reasons are

-avoiding risks of unregulated payment solutions
-preempting uptake of foreign currencies


regarding the first one I assumed this was directed towards libra. but then again... if they ever let libra happen they would regulate the hell out of it.
so... towards what is this official policy of the EU aimed at? what is an unregulated solution? the only real unregulated imaginable is bitcoin. imho the EU is acknowledging Bitcoin as a serious competitor.

regarding the second one I think this aimed towards Chinese or other cbdc´s that are being developed. this is remarkable! the EU is officially acknowledging game-theory of global financial scale: "we can't let them have all the global market"

the race has started. they all have to follow. strategically a necessity. them are studying bitcoin very closely I am sure.

here are the other reasons the give:

-complementing cash and deposits
-creating synergies with payment industry
-supporting digitalization in EU economy
-ensuring access to central bank money

(last one is interesting. what kind of scenario is this one aimed at?)
 


https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/other/Report_on_a_digital_euro~4d7268b458.en.pdf#page=4

I just quickly looked through, its an interesting read.

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An infrastructure with some decentralisation could be used to provide a bearer digital euro, where either end users, or supervised intermediaries acting on their behalf, would verify any payment. This could be achieved through either of the following two models, which could also be combined:64
(i) Direct end-user access to the bearer digital euro;
(ii) Hybrid bearer digital euro (also allowing wholesale transactions) and account-based infrastructure.

a bearer CBDC?  Huh

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Different technical solutions could be envisaged for implementing such a solution, in particular enabling the central bank to have administrator access through remote access capabilities to the digital euro systems operated by supervised intermediaries. More advanced techniques could be used whereby cryptographic proof is computed by the systems to prove to the central bank that the amounts recorded remain valid.
Finally, to ensure consistency of the amounts and avoid the abovementioned risks for end users, the latter could be given the possibility to automatically check, through their devices and applications, that their balances correspond to what is recorded in the system of the central bank. To ensure that no unintended transaction can be originated by an intermediary on behalf of a user, the end user could automatically send a request to the central bank upon initiation of a transaction (using a private signature not known to the intermediary) approving initiation of the transaction. The end user would then receive confirmation from the central bank system that the transaction had been processed.

money is going digital. there will be

-bitcoin, the only real digital scarce asset

-50k shitcoins

-10 or 20 CBDC (or if the go full shitcoin we will have 160 CBDC soon...)



should bitcoiners worry about competition in the digital scarcity game?

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Requirement 4 (R4): monetary policy option. If considered to be a tool for improving the transmission of monetary policy, the digital euro should be remunerated

23) at interest rate(s) that the central bank can modify over time

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i have read in there somewhere that they wanted to peg it to the overall interest rate which is 0% to -0.5%

so, no ... thank you.

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/html/digitaleuro-report.en.html

also see reuter link:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecb-currency-digital/ecb-must-prepare-to-issue-a-digital-euro-panetta-says-idUSKBN26N0S0?utm_source=reddit.com
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October 02, 2020, 09:55:50 AM

Just throwing it out there that maybe Trump + wife don’t have covid & it’s a tactical play to help him win the election. Just an idea, either way he’ll be fine because he isn’t 80+ with moderate to severe pre-existing health conditions.

He's 74 and overweight?  Cool
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October 02, 2020, 10:11:14 AM

Serious question. In the (1 out of 10,000 chance) event that Trump dies, will Pence be forced to nuke China for taking out our Commander in Chief?

Or perhaps Trump could have caught Corona on purpose after doing so badly in the debate. His plan would be to go into a bunker, fight a nuclear war with China, then declare a never ending state of emergency and crowning himself President for Life for the surviving population.


Odds of death would probably be closer to 1/50, maybe even quite a bit greater than that for someone who is in such age group.. maybe even other underlying health factors that might not be being disclosed, also.

On the other hand, if we assume he gets the best of treatment (not blood letting because we are in "modern times"), maybe the odds would lower to something in the 1/100 to 1/200 arena... but 1/10,000 odds seems way too low.

Regarding your second question, of course, you are not serious... should not be treating trolls as if serious, even on the face of the question it could hardly be serious.





Learn to read and learn to count. There was only one question, not two, you retarded trollbot.  Wink 1 out of 10k chance of dying of the sniffles was actually generous, its likely lower.
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this is a fantastic read on digital scarcity:
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The cryptocurrency experiment could not have higher stakes. Geopolitics is often referred to as the “Great Game”. It’s the game of thrones for global power. It is a game played by sovereign states. Bitcoin is the only way that ordinary people can play the Great Game. Bitcoin allows us to play this game by creating a sovereign currency that can challenge state powers and contend for the title of global reserve currency.

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If we wish to play the game on this level, it is very important that we understand that this is a game that can only be played by Bitcoin. No other cryptocurrency can win this game, no matter how “advanced” it is. Indeed, if any other cryptocurrency ever seemed like it could rival Bitcoin for the mantle of Cryptocurrency King, it would not simply mean that Bitcoin had failed. The entire cryptocurrency experiment would have failed.

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Bitcoin is the invention of programmatic scarcity. It can only happen once. No blockchain after Bitcoin can invent programmatic scarcity again. Herein lies Satoshi’s Paradox: if anyone can create money through crypto-currency, then nobody can.

https://medium.com/sovryn/the-heros-journey-of-bitcoin-part-1-satoshi-s-paradox-64f90abb7811


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October 02, 2020, 10:29:48 AM

That ECB crypto report is like reading the "whitepaper" for yet another shitcoin scam  Roll Eyes
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I bought my 3th Trezor and it's shipped to my mailbox. Smiley

Received a promo code for a 10% discount for a friend ore family member but i don't tell them that i own this device for personal security reasons.

If anybody here is interested/planning to buy a product from the Trezor website PM me i'll give you the code.

I don't handpick anybody just random. (The promo code is valid for 2 months)
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Wouldn't be suprised if it was an election stunt because i don't trust Trump at all.
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October 02, 2020, 11:48:03 AM
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Interesting to wake up this morning to news like that. Guess even the Presidential "Bubble" didn't keep it out.

Now we get to see what happens when reality invades this little bubble. Good chance he will be fine. Possible chance very sick. Small chance he will be in a coma or ventilator. Which will make for some interesting decisions.

Hm.
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