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January 21, 2016, 10:35:55 AM
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euro hodler haben es schwer...

http://www.finanzen.net/devisen/euro-bitcoin/chart
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January 21, 2016, 12:16:52 PM
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schick schick


letzten endes wird es auf einen Gold Bitcoin Chart hinauslaufen Smiley
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=XBT&to=XAU&view=5Y

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January 21, 2016, 12:41:06 PM
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An die ständigen Versuche, Bitcoin dem kriminellen Milieu zuzuordnen, hat man sich ja nun schon fast gewöhnt.
Daß wir mit unserem Bargeld nun auch noch dazugehören,  Junge, Junge.

Hat der Cryan wohl seine 2,5 Milliarden Dollar Strafzahlungen auf Grund der kriminellen Machenschaften beim LIBOR vergessen? Oder die ominösen Hypotheken Deals? Die Manipulationen am Devisenmarkt? Und so weiter.

Naja, wenn Kriminelle das Maul aufmachen...
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January 21, 2016, 01:30:30 PM
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IWF-Chefin Christine Lagarde rechnet damit, dass auch virtuelle Währungen wie Bitcoin in den nächsten Jahren an Bedeutung gewinnen werden.

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/finanzmarkt-cryan-bargeld-verschwindet-voellig-1.2827613?source=rss

Genau. Lagarde betrachtet die Sache mit Weitwinkel. Der Cyran hingegen muß den sterbenden Schwan verteidigen...
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January 21, 2016, 02:04:37 PM
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classic ist wohl mehr oder weniger abgeblasen. nachdem bitfury sich schon eher reserviert geäussert hatte, hat heute F2Pool seine unterstützung gezeigt für einen plan von bitcoin-core märz 2017 auf 2MB zu hardforken und etliche andere sachen ebenfalls gleich mit in die HF zu packen.

Das klare Agenda von Bitcoin-Core ist natuerlich wuenschenswert. Ist aber 2017 nicht nen bissl spaet?

Nein, 2017 ist nicht zu spät, wenn die Änderung dafür durchdacht, zukunftsfähig und stabil ist.

Wo findet man die entsprechende Meldung?

Das würde mich auch interessieren!
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January 21, 2016, 02:47:44 PM
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classic ist wohl mehr oder weniger abgeblasen. nachdem bitfury sich schon eher reserviert geäussert hatte, hat heute F2Pool seine unterstützung gezeigt für einen plan von bitcoin-core märz 2017 auf 2MB zu hardforken und etliche andere sachen ebenfalls gleich mit in die HF zu packen.

Das klare Agenda von Bitcoin-Core ist natuerlich wuenschenswert. Ist aber 2017 nicht nen bissl spaet?

Nein, 2017 ist nicht zu spät, wenn die Änderung dafür durchdacht, zukunftsfähig und stabil ist.

Wo findet man die entsprechende Meldung?

Das würde mich auch interessieren!


Bei reddit habe ich folgendes dazu gefunden:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/41zgn6/translation_of_an_excerpt_from_an_article/


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January 21, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
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Wenn ich mir die Performance der Deutsche Bank Aktie anschaue, wirds wohl noch länger Bargeld, als die Deutsche Bank geben  Cheesy

ähm, die ratten verlassen das sinkende schiff oder wie? Wink

Former Deutsche Bank Director Joins Blockchain Firm AlphaPoint
Daniel Palmer | Published on January 21, 2016 at 13:58 GMT
http://www.coindesk.com/former-deutsche-bank-director-joins-blockchain-firm-alphapoint/

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January 21, 2016, 03:04:52 PM
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Nein, 2017 ist nicht zu spät, wenn die Änderung dafür durchdacht, zukunftsfähig und stabil ist.
dem stimme ich zu

geändert Wink

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January 21, 2016, 03:27:10 PM
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Nein, 2017 ist nicht zu spät, wenn die Änderung dafür durchdacht, zukunftsfähig und stabil ist.
dem stimme ich zu

Ich eher nicht.

Das obige Zitat war übrigens von mezzomix, nicht von Lincoln, oder?

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January 21, 2016, 03:52:09 PM
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 Grin haha

The guy who was sitting next to me, who I think was from a bank, wrote “magic beans” on his notepad. What an accurate description.
http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=28328

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January 21, 2016, 04:07:03 PM
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Grin haha

The guy who was sitting next to me, who I think was from a bank, wrote “magic beans” on his notepad. What an accurate description.
http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=28328

I find Mr. G.W. Birch entertaining. Very english indeed.

He has a point in this case ("blockchain" over-hype and misuse by everyone and his banker), too. Generally he's way too sceptical towards bitcoin, but you have to give him one thing: he was there pretty early.

O shit, sorry. jetzt hab ich nach lesen des Artikels aus versehen auf englisch gepostet.

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January 21, 2016, 06:03:18 PM
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ähm, ade Bargeld

Part of this mind shift can be attributed to a lack of efficiency when dealing with a cash transaction. Cash is not convenient, and it feels clumsy at times to deal with both bills and coins. Electronic payments let users pay the exact amount they need, by just carrying a plastic card or mobile device. Physical wallets are becoming a thing of the past.


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Dutch Central Bank Keeps Tabs on Bitcoin and Digital Currency

Hardly anyone will be surprised by the news of the Dutch Central Bank keeping a close eye on the evolution of Bitcoin and digital currencies throughout 2015 and beyond. There is only so much traditional finance can do to make payments more appealing, as all transactions have to go through the outdated legacy system.
New and innovative payment methods – such as Bitcoin and other digital currencies – completely bypass the financial infrastructure and provide global payment solutions. Regarding robustness and faster payment processing, there is no match for Bitcoin in the financial world today. Especially not when taking into account how the sender pays minimal transaction fees with Bitcoin, whereas the recipient pays no fees at all [unless they convert the funds to fiat currency].
- Soll das heißen lasst den mist? Haltet Bitcoin!?

New and innovative payment methods – such as Bitcoin and other digital currencies – completely bypass the financial infrastructure and provide global payment solutions. Regarding robustness and faster payment processing, there is no match for Bitcoin in the financial world today. Especially not when taking into account how the sender pays minimal transaction fees with Bitcoin, whereas the recipient pays no fees at all [unless they convert the funds to fiat currency].


Furthermore, there is no such thing as fraud in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Not only will the blockchain technology be valuable to the Dutch Central bank, but the entire concept of issuing digital money deserves a second and third look. Bitcoin should not be discounted as a contender to eventually put banks out of business, though, as the popular digital currency keeps gaining momentum all over the world.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/01/21/dutch-central-bank-report-acknowledges-bitcoin-and-blockchain/


ECB Board Member: Blockchain Could Disrupt Payments
Yves Mersch, member of the executive board of the European Central Bank (ECB), has said innovative new payments technologies like the blockchain have the potential to disrupt card-based payments.
http://www.coindesk.com/ecb-board-member-blockchain-could-disrupt-payments

Bitcoin and Bulk Transactions Take Center Stage in International Transfer
Exactly what this means for bitcoin is unclear, but on a macro level, it has implications. As part of the announcement, the banks referenced the rise of the financial technology sector and the drive to reduce transaction fees. Bitcoin and the blockchain are viable answers to this problem, and Japan’s latest action shows that large organizations are willing to join forces to find a solution.

Which brings us to the second development, CoinPip. CoinPip is a Singapore based startup that is trying to apply the blockchain to the problem Japanese banks are trying to solve. The company has developed a system through which businesses can transact with one another, quickly, and for a low, fixed fee. It uses bitcoin as its root currency, and through blockchain based transactions, allows businesses to avoid the high cost of sending money across borders – both from a banking fee perspective and from a foreign exchange viewpoint.
http://www.newsbtc.com/2016/01/21/bitcoin-and-bulk-transactions-take-center-stage-in-international-transfer/

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January 21, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
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Boah langsam wird das ganze Blockchain gequarke echt nervig.

,,Blockchain maybe could should would disrupt everything and anything or not."

Blablabla. Solche Schaumschläger!!! Angry


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January 21, 2016, 06:22:14 PM
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Boah langsam wird das ganze Blockchain gequarke echt nervig.

Blockchain maybe could should would disrupt everything and anything or not.

Blablabla. Solche Schaumschläger!!! Angry

und siehe letztes post, so wird es wahrscheinlich laufen, noch heißt es fast immer blockchain
aber um transfere auszuführen, zwischen verschiedenen unternehmen, brauchst du einen zentralen dezentralen chain, auf den alle gleichzeitig zugreifen können

der zu 100% immer läuft, unabhängig von der Region, unabhängig des Unternehmens oder einer Bank...

die privat chains, koppelst du einfach drum herum an

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January 21, 2016, 07:00:48 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2016/01/19/r-i-p-bitcoin-its-time-to-move-on/?postshare=691453395532622&tid=ss_tw

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January 21, 2016, 07:05:10 PM
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hatte wir schon gestern disskutiert, heute wissen wir das der price daraufhin stieg Wink haha

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January 21, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
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Pff ich glaube das erst wenn es hier steht http://isbitcoindead.com

Aber die Reaktion des "Journalisten" des Artikels auf den Kursverlauf hätte ich schon gerne gesehen Grin

Bitcoin, die Industrie dahinter, die Community, die Kapitalisierung und die Hashleistung ist einfach schon "to big to fail". Eine dämliche Aussage eines früheren Entwicklers oder ein reißerischer Artikel eines Journalisten wird daran auch nichts ändern. Roll Eyes

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January 21, 2016, 07:46:36 PM
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wie schon von jemanden hier erwähnt werden die chinesischen miner weiter mit CORE zusammenarbeiten. damit dürfte die kubakrise mit CLASSIC überstanden sein! puh, das war knapp!

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/f-pool-chinese-pools-will-stick-with-bitcoin-core-1453395328

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January 21, 2016, 08:17:07 PM
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....und das ganz ohne Handelsembargo... Wink

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January 21, 2016, 08:47:27 PM
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“The rumors are true,” Chun said. “Miners in China were scared by Luke Dashjr’s proof-of-work changing pull request.”

The specific pull request Chun refers to was made by Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin LJR developer Luke Dashjr last week. Dashjr argued that a hard fork should be accompanied by a change of Bitcoin mining hashing algorithm, as it would render ASIC miners obsolete and could re-decentralize mining. Since Bitcoin Classic intends to democratize governance of the implementation, users could vote on the pull request; it had not received widespread support as of yet.

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The pull request itself, however, was quickly closed by Bitcoin Classic lead developer Jonathan Toomim, who considered the idea too radical.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Auf einmal halten diese SPV Miner den Fork also nicht mehr für eine gute Idee und ziehen plötzlich die solide und konservativere Core Strategie vor?! Kaum kommt einer (LukeJR) und denkt den progressiven Ansatz konsequent zu Ende, dann ziehen sie den Schwanz ein und machen plötzlich auf konservativ. Und der/die Entwickler sind auf einmal auch gar nicht mehr von der Idee einer radikalen Änderung begeistert und drehen um 180 Grad.

Freut mich, dass ich hier absolut richtig lag. Wobei ich die Idee eines Hardfork mit Umstellung des Mining Algorithmus inzwischen richtig gut finde. Mit etwas mehr Entwicklungsaufwand könnte man hier sicher einen Algorithmus finden, der die effiziente POW Generierung nur noch unter Einbeziehung vollständigen Blockchain Historie erlaubt. Damit wäre zentrales Mining (und gleichzeitig auch GPU Mining) tot. Die Büchse der Pandora ist geöffnet - und die grossen Poolbetreiber sind auch noch dafür verantwortlich. Einfach köstlich.  Wink
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