ausser blubblubb kommen hier keine argumente ??
nutzt wohl ausser ich hier keiner btc im täglichen leben alle nur am spekulieren wie die geier ```??https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xn1ev/warning_fullrbf_is_coming_rip_zeroconf/
I'm a merchant selling low value physical goods in person. I accept bitcoin. I am not very technical but I understand the risk of accepting 0 conf transactions. That risk is very small and quite acceptable to me. We generally do one or two bitcoin transactions a day and have been doing so for two years. I have never had a double spend attempt.RBF changes that and makes the risk of accepting bitcoin in my business unacceptable.
That makes me sad and angry.
While some argue that 0 conf should never be accepted that means bitcoin will never be used in a retail environment. My business has introduced innumerable people to bitcoin. Our advertising promotes bitcoin and just seeing a place where bitcoin can be spent encourages lots of people to find out more. Multiply that by thousands of merchants who will have to stop accepting bitcoin once rbf becomes common place. It is a PR disaster.
I really detest people using esoteric arguments to hobble an aspect of bitcoin that in the real world has worked just fine. As it is 0 conf is safe, reliable and useful for small amounts. RBF breaks that for no good reason.RBF will absolutely slow down the adoption of bitcoin. It will lower bitcoins value because it lowers its utility.
I think we are being screwed by theorists who live in ivory towers but do not understand the real world.
There are lots of ways to fix stuck transactions. Wiping out a very important and useful feature of bitcoin to solve a small problem caused by user error is just unbelievable.
To me this is a bigger and far more important change than the blocksize. How has it been foisted on us with virtually no public debate. I am mortified and now very worried that bitcoin has somehow been taken over by people that do not have its best interest at heart.
A friend of mine runs a little webshop, and I've convinced her to add bitcoin payment as an option. This wasn't an easy task because the whole website is wordpress based and she had to ask the guys who did her website to implement a bitcoin payment option, which after much back and forth they finally did. She accepts zero-conf transactions, and while she only gets a low number of customers using bitcoin, she never had an issue with double spending or the like. It worked perfectly fine.
Now even with opt-in RBF, it would be very easy to rip her off, because her implementation is not ready for this. And she's not a very technical person at all, and generally doesn't know what's going on in the bitcoin space. All she does is accept bitcoin on her webshop.
So I now have to explain to her that she needs to contact her web developer again, and ask them to update their wordpress implementation of the bitcoin payment option to support this new opt-in RBF patch. This will cost her money. And I'm not even sure the guy handling all this on the backend knows about opt-in RBF himself, so this guy probably has to research the whole thing, making it more costly and probably delaying the results.The other option for her is to simply say it's not worth the trouble and drop the bitcoin payment option again
. And even if she does decide to keep it despite the additional cost, she would then have to explain on her website that zero-conf is only acceptable without opt-in RBF, and otherwise the customer would have to wait for at least one confirmation before getting his payment recognized
. Or stop accepting zero-conf completely (which is likely the goal of this stupid opt-in RBF patch in the first place). This will do nothing but confuse the few customers using bitcoin, probably pushing some of them to just use paypal instead.
Total lose-lose situation here. Good job core devs! And this situation isn't even the worst case because she has someone like me telling her about this kind of stuff. Other people accepting bitcoin might not be so lucky.
okay so dann sagt mir mal was daran gut ist an Reversable Trancsaktionen ??