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March 27, 2014, 07:26:07 PM |
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im happy to wait the two or three weeks longer but i expect a bigger units as per the miners protection promise and in a time frame of the same i.e next week my miners ready for shipping they offer me a bigger miner due to roi issues then i expect it at the same time as when my origional unit
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March 27, 2014, 07:26:20 PM |
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The people in this thread need to come together and decide AS A GROUP: whether we want to "wait it out for AMT" or to file against them together.
At this point they are peddling shoddy vaporware. The build quality is pretty awful, and they haven't proved that they will stand behind any warranty or their infamous MPP. What will you do if the boards burn out after a month of running it? Hope AMT comes to the rescue? Good luck with that, or getting a refund at that point.
I know this situation sucks for everyone across the board, but I just don't see the benefit in waiting for these miners any longer. They will not ROI and based on their design, you'd be lucky to get a few months of uptime without some kind of issue.
Perhaps we can have a large meeting on a specific date where everyone jumps into a chat room or Skype to talk about this mess, and where to go from there.
I suggest sooner than later.
Steps have all ready been made. all you have to do is contact me.
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March 27, 2014, 07:30:33 PM |
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If i were to receive another rig from AMT, FIRST thing i would do is remove it from it's case, BEFORE i turn it on. The cases and configurations they are using are nothing but a waste of space and add extra cost. just do the antminer thing, and ship without a case. who cares what it looks like if it works.
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March 27, 2014, 07:39:16 PM |
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If i were to receive another rig from AMT, FIRST thing i would do is remove it from it's case, BEFORE i turn it on. The cases and configurations they are using are nothing but a waste of space and add extra cost. just do the antminer thing, and ship without a case. who cares what it looks like if it works.
It's important that the whole setup be grounded to avoid any electrical issues or surges. I agree though, the case was a complete waste of time and resources.
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March 27, 2014, 07:42:56 PM |
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hi amt i have a 520 ghs miner on order in the space of time its taken you to get your head round your issues and start shipping these miners btc diff has gone up 3 fold meaning people who ordered in feb/jan whom are still waiting on rigs have no roi window please coyld you explain how you mean to implement your miners protection and ship out either 2 units per order or double the hashing power as promised. in the state things are now if you dont warrant the protection that you offered as matter of course with every order then you will just recieve much more of a backlash from the mining comunity. please either reapond here or pm me with your response thanks.
+1 Anything less at this point is unacceptable
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clenell
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March 27, 2014, 07:51:07 PM |
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It seems what they are shipping is really a 1T miner, not a 1.2T.
I see other miners that are sold as 1T that can be overclocked to 1.3T.
They do not advertise these other miners at 1.3T miners.
It just keeps getting more and more messy.
Are there any plans to send extra board or back plains, or are we expected just to be happy with this 1T? (if it ever ships)
all the more reason to fight these guys in court. They will NOT honor anything they promise. Im through talking to them. if you think they are difficult now just wait until there crappy hardware sets off all the smoke alarms in your house. do you really think AMT is going to honor their warranty? take them to court now or take them to court later. IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF "IF" YOU TAKE AMT TO COURT. IT'S A MATTER OF "WHEN" WILL YOU TAKE AMT TO COURT.
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March 27, 2014, 07:58:12 PM |
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I took a look at the cages scattered on the floor there. They appear to be set up to mount into ATX cases. SO in theory they could be mounted into another better case. And the PSU looks like an off the shelf PSU. Nothing custom. Which is fine with me. I prefer to optimize my hardware for maximum efficiency. No stranger to building from scratch. I have built whole SAN arrays in this way saving some companies millions. And the best part is reliability. I don't cut corners so the hardware lasts (well hard drives are beyond my skill but easily replaceable).
But anyway the point is it looks like these cages could easily just be mounted into a better case for better ventilation. I still think the existing case is adequate now that I know the model of the case and its specs, but once you ratchet to turbo mode that could become a problem if enclosed. A single ventilation point at the top is a good start but not enough without more pushing the hot air off the fins which requires fans on the bottom pushing air up. And easy mod with some thing to hold the fans in place at the bottom of the cage pushing air up and away from the fins and out of the case.
I think since the hard drive fans are there they are in a poor position. Under normal circumstances they work fine as they are. But angling them so they face the left of the case blows more cool air into the case around the hard drive mounts. Not elegant but it works.
Also would need to look at the heatsinks themselves. Quality-wise are they any good? The milling processes on heatsinks varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. So I imagine corners were probably cut here too so its just good enough. But again until there is a group of people with their hands on one there is no way to know for certain their performance levels and consistency. If it were me I would smooth them into a mirror finish so that they are at maximum efficiency.
At this point we really don't know what we are getting. Quality based on past builds of other hardware is questionable at best. But seeing as alot of these devices are first gen at best 1Ths being first gen, the quality is not going to be uber. But all said I would just like to see my miners in my hands. That would be the best thing of all.
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March 27, 2014, 08:10:20 PM |
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hi amt i have a 520 ghs miner on order in the space of time its taken you to get your head round your issues and start shipping these miners btc diff has gone up 3 fold meaning people who ordered in feb/jan whom are still waiting on rigs have no roi window please coyld you explain how you mean to implement your miners protection and ship out either 2 units per order or double the hashing power as promised. in the state things are now if you dont warrant the protection that you offered as matter of course with every order then you will just recieve much more of a backlash from the mining comunity. please either reapond here or pm me with your response thanks.
+1 Anything less at this point is unacceptable also agreed i bet they wont answer tho as only thing i see them doing on here is bitch at us because they cant get there act together
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March 27, 2014, 08:11:36 PM |
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hi amt i have a 520 ghs miner on order in the space of time its taken you to get your head round your issues and start shipping these miners btc diff has gone up 3 fold meaning people who ordered in feb/jan whom are still waiting on rigs have no roi window please coyld you explain how you mean to implement your miners protection and ship out either 2 units per order or double the hashing power as promised. in the state things are now if you dont warrant the protection that you offered as matter of course with every order then you will just recieve much more of a backlash from the mining comunity. please either reapond here or pm me with your response thanks.
+1 Anything less at this point is unacceptable also agreed i bet they wont answer tho as only thing i see them doing on here is bitch at us because they cant get there act together you have to cause waves to get attention so a tsunami of shit will do the trick
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March 27, 2014, 08:19:39 PM |
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Seems like it might be easier to order the components and put the thing into our own cases and cages. Not to mention cheaper in theory. Not sure how custom these setups actually are.
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March 27, 2014, 08:19:53 PM |
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hi amt i have a 520 ghs miner on order in the space of time its taken you to get your head round your issues and start shipping these miners btc diff has gone up 3 fold meaning people who ordered in feb/jan whom are still waiting on rigs have no roi window please coyld you explain how you mean to implement your miners protection and ship out either 2 units per order or double the hashing power as promised. in the state things are now if you dont warrant the protection that you offered as matter of course with every order then you will just recieve much more of a backlash from the mining comunity. please either reapond here or pm me with your response thanks.
+1 Anything less at this point is unacceptable also agreed i bet they wont answer tho as only thing i see them doing on here is bitch at us because they cant get there act together +1 its mess up how when we ask them something here we get bitch at telling us to email them but when we do email them they dont reply...then when we post up what we well what i did in order to get a respond...again get bitch at it's like a cycle that goes back an forth and so on.
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March 27, 2014, 08:20:12 PM |
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March 27, 2014, 08:22:24 PM |
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March 27, 2014, 08:24:03 PM |
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im happy to wait the two or three weeks longer but i expect a bigger units as per the miners protection promise and in a time frame of the same i.e next week my miners ready for shipping they offer me a bigger miner due to roi issues then i expect it at the same time as when my origional unit Well, they absolutely need to offer you a bigger miner! Go to www.thegenesisblock.com to calculate ROI. You will noticed that there is negative ROI after 6 months of mining.
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March 27, 2014, 08:24:27 PM |
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it's like hey! order from us but shut up and no complaints u get it when you get it
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March 27, 2014, 08:26:54 PM |
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it's like hey! order from us but shut up and no complaints u get it when you get it
i'm still waiting for a reply from sales@advancedminers.com btw
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March 27, 2014, 08:28:00 PM |
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it's like hey! order from us but shut up and no complaints u get it when you get it
i'm still waiting for a reply from sales@advancedminers.com btw rofl... you are your own worst enemy.
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March 27, 2014, 08:31:50 PM |
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it's like hey! order from us but shut up and no complaints u get it when you get it
i'm still waiting for a reply from sales@advancedminers.com btw We all have been waiting for responses from all their email addresses, they don't answer any of them... promise after promise they just keep delaying more and more... it's a joke... even if I get my miners today they will be worth thousands less than what it would have been worth when I was promised to have it and unless they upgrade all the 1.2 THS for 5 THs machines and we get them tomorrow I've pretty much lost out on the ROI I should have received based on what they have promised in the past.
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March 27, 2014, 08:31:58 PM |
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it's like hey! order from us but shut up and no complaints u get it when you get it
i'm still waiting for a reply from sales@advancedminers.com btw rofl... you are your own worst enemy. yea...just venting a little from all the bs
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March 27, 2014, 08:47:23 PM |
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Well one thing I noticed....bitmine.ch's authorized reseller page is 404ed. http://bitmine.ch/?page_id=5204Sign of things to come?
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