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August 04, 2015, 07:27:24 PM
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Interesting:

Update!

Lets discuss this on Reddit (so we can start building more traffic there):
https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/comments/3fs25q/potential_cryptsy_listing/
https://twitter.com/BBRcurrency/status/628646443176325120

Received direct message on Twitter today from BigVern (cryptsy):



I responded to say we were interested and asked if they were technically able to add us quickly. I am aware they have said they wanted to add Monero for quite some time but have yet to do so for I presume to be be technical issues integrating with their system

edit: he just responded to my question. It sounds like they are ready to start integrating Monero too.

I will provide more details on r/boolberry so come join the discussion!

Additional info: https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/comments/3fs25q/potential_cryptsy_listing/ctrerrm

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August 04, 2015, 07:35:43 PM
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Interesting:

Update!

Lets discuss this on Reddit (so we can start building more traffic there):
https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/comments/3fs25q/potential_cryptsy_listing/
https://twitter.com/BBRcurrency/status/628646443176325120

Received direct message on Twitter today from BigVern (cryptsy):



I responded to say we were interested and asked if they were technically able to add us quickly. I am aware they have said they wanted to add Monero for quite some time but have yet to do so for I presume to be be technical issues integrating with their system

edit: he just responded to my question. It sounds like they are ready to start integrating Monero too.

I will provide more details on r/boolberry so come join the discussion!

Additional info: https://www.reddit.com/r/boolberry/comments/3fs25q/potential_cryptsy_listing/ctrerrm

Yes I think this is good news for CryptoNote in general. Time to provide Cryptsy traders anonymity at the protocol level instead of the DASH they have been brainwashed into buying!
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August 04, 2015, 07:41:55 PM
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Yes I think this is good news for CryptoNote in general. Time to provide Cryptsy traders anonymity at the protocol level instead of the DASH they have been brainwashed into buying!

Certainly agree! Also, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

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August 04, 2015, 07:47:57 PM
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Yes I think this is good news for CryptoNote in general. Time to provide Cryptsy traders anonymity at the protocol level instead of the DASH they have been brainwashed into buying!

Certainly agree! Also, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

No problem. Obviously I like Boolberry but I also support Monero and other legitimate CryptoNote projects. I sent a direct message to AEON Coin on Twitter as well.  Everyone knows that Monero is the market leader but there is room for several CryptoNote coins to experiment with new innovations
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August 04, 2015, 07:51:29 PM
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I like seeing this union between the good cryptonote coins, we'll all win in the end, good job.
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August 04, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
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Im not a supporter of paid exchange addings, its their business as operators to find coins worthwhile ... not ours to bribe us into an exchange.
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August 04, 2015, 09:06:40 PM
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Sounds about as fishy as you can get r.e that message from 'big vern'

In fact its pretty much an exact copy of a twitter scam thats been happening over the past week where known crypto twitter users are having their accounts copied.

That account is then asking people for 1 btc to join a pump group and promising them their 1btc entry fee back when they leave.

In fact I'd go as far as to hang my head out and say that is certainly not big vern asking for that 1btc. Happy to be proved wrong but I'd bet 10btc that if the boolberry guy looks closer at the big vern twitter account it will have an l instead of an i in bigvern. i.e. @blgvern.
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August 04, 2015, 09:13:47 PM
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Sounds about as fishy as you can get r.e that message from 'big vern'

In fact its pretty much an exact copy of a twitter scam thats been happening over the past week where known crypto twitter users are having their accounts copied.

That account is then asking people for 1 btc to join a pump group and promising them their 1btc entry fee back when they leave.

In fact I'd go as far as to hang my head out and say that is certainly not big vern asking for that 1btc. Happy to be proved wrong but I'd bet 10btc that if the boolberry guy looks closer at the big vern twitter account it will have an l instead of an i in bigvern. i.e. @blgvern.

OMG you are right! I feel bad for getting hopes up but am grateful you caught this....

This is the real account: https://twitter.com/cryptsy

This is the (good at first glance) fake I received the message from:
https://twitter.com/crpytsy

I will answer more questions later, but I want to go warn BBR people in Reddit, etc first.

Please report the fake account. Luckily I had not yet sent any donations to the scammer yet.
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August 04, 2015, 09:28:07 PM
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If you guys want some top kek, check out the structure fire in bitcoin land because of even a mistaken possibility that Satoshi's coins might be moving. 
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3frn1d/satoshis_coins_have_not_moved_blockchaininfo_is

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August 04, 2015, 09:35:48 PM
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If you guys want some top kek, check out the structure fire in bitcoin land because of even a mistaken possibility that Satoshi's coins might be moving. 
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3frn1d/satoshis_coins_have_not_moved_blockchaininfo_is

I saw that too. It also looked real at first glance until you noticed 0 confirmations and other details..
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August 04, 2015, 09:51:13 PM
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XMR liquidity in the Poloniex exchange is low. I need to make some high-volume trades for a client who requires public record of the transactions. So how about we all slowly gather to Poloniex, and are ready with our XMR so that the trades can happen?!

Smiley

When are you planning to do it? My ask price of coins that I am swing trading goes up 5 % on every Friday.

It is possible that the wall at 0.002 is mine and wants to acquire more coinX. So please dump into it and if you have more, ask for a bigger wall! Smiley

Selling any XMR is simply not in the cards for me. There is no way I can justify it. The reality is that, as I mentioned before, there is an ever widening gap between the "official" binary releases that are over eight months old and the current Monero code on github https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero. The difference in performance is literally night and day. Not to count in the sheer number of commits and other less obvious but criticality important improvements to the code. A lot has changed since the days of below 0.001 XMR/XBT; however this is far from obvious. I take the point of view that the market has not priced this in yet due in a large part to the choices in operating systems made by many of the market participants.  

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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August 04, 2015, 10:17:03 PM
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XMR liquidity in the Poloniex exchange is low. I need to make some high-volume trades for a client who requires public record of the transactions. So how about we all slowly gather to Poloniex, and are ready with our XMR so that the trades can happen?!

Smiley

When are you planning to do it? My ask price of coins that I am swing trading goes up 5 % on every Friday.

It is possible that the wall at 0.002 is mine and wants to acquire more coinX. So please dump into it and if you have more, ask for a bigger wall! Smiley

Selling any XMR is simply not in the cards for me. There is no way I can justify it. The reality is that, as I mentioned before, there is an ever widening gap between the "official" binary releases that are over eight months old and the current Monero code on github https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero. The difference in performance is literally night and day. Not to count in the sheer number of commits and other less obvious but criticality important improvements to the code. A lot has changed since the days of below 0.001 XMR/XBT; however this is far from obvious. I take the point of view that the market has not priced this in yet due in a large part to the choices in operating systems made by many of the market participants.  

More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.
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August 04, 2015, 10:28:10 PM
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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

Edit: Can one compile Monero on an IPad or would the DRM get in the way? Yet it is simple to trade Monero using an iPad.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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August 04, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.
 
  
I'm about to learn Linux basics and create an install CD for a new laptop.  What distro would you recommend I use.  I'll look up some user guides online, but it will be a nice shortcut to know what is the recommend distro to use for a first time user only interested in using it to compile Monero and run a node (I'm just assuming there's many to choose from) 
 
Also, forgive me if anything I just said is n00bish or ridiculous, I'm a Windows-baby up until today.

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August 04, 2015, 10:38:36 PM
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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

Edit: Can one compile Monero on an IPad or would the DRM get in the way? Yet it is simple to trade Monero using an iPad.

Actually it's mostly just copy/paste from the README, and certainly much faster than installing Linux (if you don't have it already).
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August 04, 2015, 10:46:04 PM
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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.
 
 
I'm about to learn Linux basics and create an install CD for a new laptop.  What distro would you recommend I use.  I'll look up some user guides online, but it will be a nice shortcut to know what is the recommend distro to use for a first time user only interested in using it to compile Monero and run a node (I'm just assuming there's many to choose from) 
 
Also, forgive me if anything I just said is n00bish or ridiculous, I'm a Windows-baby up until today.

Arch is my distro of choice but for a noobie I'd recommend Mint or Elementary OS.  The first would be easy for a Windows user to migrate to, is mostly Ubuntu based, and exceedingly stable.  The second is less mature, it's purely Ubuntu based and more mac like in its ui.  Both would be easy to use.
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August 04, 2015, 11:10:10 PM
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More sheer lazyness... i tried to compile myself for windows 7 ... and after some minor issues that got resolved through #monero-dev, i was able to do it.

Did you compile on Windows 7 or on GNU/Linux in order to generate a Windows 7 executable? Big difference! I am not saying that one cannot compile Monero on Windows 7, I am saying that for a moderately tech savvy person it is way simpler to just install Ubuntu GNU/Linux and compile on Ubuntu than to find and install all the software that is required to successfully compile Monero on Windows 7.

Edit: Can one compile Monero on an IPad or would the DRM get in the way? Yet it is simple to trade Monero using an iPad.

msys64 but like luigi said it was basically a noob-proof copy&paste from the README.
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August 05, 2015, 01:16:24 AM
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Oh wow, I'm not going to keep derailing this into a Linux discussion, but today for the first time in my life I Googled phrases such as "Linux distro review" and "top linux distro 2015", "best linux for newbies" and I am amazed. 
 
We have come a LONG way since 2002 when I first was looking at this stuff.  There's even a Steam OS if you buy a laptop just for games.... I am floored. 
 

 
 
Ok, well since I'm a total Linux virgin it's probably best to write about this separately and make a guide for anyone like me who is totally new and interested in something like this.  Thanks for the nudge and the advice.

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August 05, 2015, 01:19:36 AM
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Shit, OK.  Last Linux post this time, for real for real.  
  
I just read about Tails on Wikipedia.  That would seem to be the best Distro for Monero paranoids, right?  
  
Wait, I'm a huge goober.  I just realized that's a 32-bit OS, right?   Tongue Roll Eyes  
  
That means I can't compile and run Monero, since it requires a 64-bit machine, right?.  BAH HUMBUG.  I'll just have to wait it looks like until the database work is done and a 32-bit version is released, or I'll have to bump up to a 64-bit laptop.  
  

 
  
double edit: Ahhhh, I'm a moron.  The processor is a Intel® Celeron® Processor N2840 which is 64-bit.  I had no idea they made 64-bit processors under the Celeron name.  Wow.  Ok, I guess I *am* in business.  Cool!

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August 05, 2015, 01:24:49 AM
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Shit, OK.  Last Linux post this time, for real for real. 
 
I just read about Tails and even how the NSA said it was a "major threat".  That would seem to be the best Distro for Monero paranoids, right?

Tails is generally well regarded (up to the point at which Tor itself is known to have major issues) but I wouldn't necessarily believe everything that comes out of the NSA, etc. either, even if it was leaked. Compartmentalization means that one part of the NSA, etc. might consider something a major threat while another part has it completely compromised.

But realistically you are already well ahead of the game security-wise if you are using reasonable Linux instead of Windows.
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