Ah, okay.

Agree on that 100% !

Would be great if somebody can do this! This will help me (and hopefully others) during  the introduction of viacoin to businesses and makes it more efficient to get up to speed in discussions. Pictures/animations says more than a 1000 words.

i tried the ignore button on AdamWhite just to get a sense of the feeling it would provide and i gotta say guys its like
drinking your first coffee on a monday morning after having done some heavy drinking in the weekend before.

The only thing i struggled with was perhaps missing out on his intelligent, witty and entertaining posts after hitting
the ignore button once and for all

Dash, futur big crash

he sent me a private message and was able to recover his coins. we are on the main chain.

post above holds the new logo, we will make this change soon.

one of the posts also asked for an update... im basically spending all my free time to write a new codebase for new wallet structure

Maybe people would like to buy DASH , because nobody wants DARKCOIN .

barabbas, regarding moderation. You keep harping on like this thread is like North Korea and making it sound like there is hard censorship going on, this is false and you are spreading FUD in doing so.

Moderation was actually requested *by the community*. The moderation is light, in fact very, very occasional - you will see I actually only deleted on post since this recent FUD started, in fact, that's the first post since a long long time that has been deleted. There is plenty negative stuff here that probably should have been removed, but I chose not too. There are clear moderation rules as was agreed by the community many many months ago and those are the rules I stick to. Additionally, while I do not like price talk in the thread, if you want to talk about price go ahead, if people complain it gets too noisy we'll need to revisit it.

Replace the main dev? A reasonable request? I'm sorry, but this is getting out of hand. Its great to create a foundation and promote viacoin, but without Drak we didn't had Viacoin and did not have the tech which viacoin have now. Everybody is acting like Viacoin is a company. It isn't! Drak stated it earlier. Everybody can develop, promote, etc for Viacoin. Everybody have their own responsiblity to act and make this tech better and more mainstream. Sure, Drak raised money and he is very carefull how to spend it. And I agree on this. You must be very efficient and think long term. Nobody gains when the money is spend in a few months.

Based on the trackrecord of Drak and what he has done for Bitcoin and Viacoin, he has my trust. Everybody is looking at the price this moment and that is logical, but please focus on the long term.

Viacoin will fail if the drak stepped down, all takeover coins are worthless. People advocating for takeover are just looking for their own personal gains.

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censorship is against what each and every one in cypto believes. No reason for censored thread.
Trolls will always be, and users can answer, ignore, or press the 'ignore automatically' button.
Community members should feel free to talk bout WHATEVER they wish, may it be price, ideas, dissatisfaction, trading, mining, whatever.


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If you're an investor in via you should come to terms that you are taking a BIG risk, and MOST LIKELY you will lose all your investment. If you can't handle such loss, dump all or at least what you can't afford to lose. Now that you are indifferent to the VIA price, anything can happen- worst: VIA becomes a worthless zombie coin; best- smart contracts and Turing complete scripts are imported from Ethereum, treechains are tested, people build apps on VIA/CH... who knows.


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Most coders I've met in my life tend to underestimate the importance of communications and why lack of it creates tension or distrust. Drak certainly experienced a cold shower, but imho don't expect him to become open and communicative just because of this experience. It is our job to ask, address him, and engage him to answer. If it's only up to him, then imho by nature, a coder remains a coder... [no offence Drak- you are an excellent coder but community/communication might not be your "thing"   ]


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I see viacoin as a technology experiment, and a lottery investment. The experiment can succeed technologically but fail investment wise, or vice versa, or both, or neither. At these prices, at half these prices, or any other price- still no-one can provide not even an educated guess about the future, neither Drak, nor Peter Todd, nor masternode, or anyone else. That is why it's important to stick to a position you can afford to lose, write it off in your mind, and then join the community to help build/promote something. Bitcoin was written-off by so many people, so many times...  apparently, any coin was written-off at this time or another, including litecoin, darkcoin, NXT, etc. etc..


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adoption is an illusive term. Adoption by whom?
users? honestly, why should users convert to using viacoin when they have bitcoin...
merchants? why would they use viacoin when they have bitcoin, and even that is hardly used...
imho, adoption has different stages, with each stage tapping to a different adoption vector.  
Right now, viacoin is simply no match for bitcoin as a currency [bitcoin is more accepted, recognized, traded, distributed, wallets, merchants, etc].
Adoption of CH as a decentralized market will also fail because it is based on a narrowly distributed coin [Viacoin] and can not compete with centralized exchanges in speed, volume, range of coins, etc.

I believe Viacoin's adoption right now should be 'app-developer adoption', i.e. convincing app developers to build their apps on CH.
Any app will do- a game, a discount token, an art-authentication app.... anything

We can do this in one of two ways I can think of-
1) community members rout connections to potential app builders and start-ups to Drak's direction and nag until the parties communicate.
2) community decides on an app project, and instead of throwing money on useless PR/ branding, we finance the first app and release it as an open-source proof-of-concept that can later be the base to drive more devs to build apps on VIA/CH.

We missed getgems, but i know there are other potential app-builders waiting on the fence...
They need some persuading to do, and with community members' connections + Drak's hands-on involvement, we might just succeed in flipping some of them our way instead of going to Ethereum, NXT, Bitshares, Mastercoin, etc.

bobo makes sens
griiffin can u do this?

Who bought less 10 litoshi on mintpal last year? raise your hands  

I don't think that a lot of people will use bter.com again, only who have believed at the story of the "hacked cold wallet". However news about the withdrawal?

oooh!  A CNY pair

Well.. masternode's plan is (maybe) good for big holders. But smaller players can still operate on the market. Personally I want this project to go on.

What is more - I don' t think "the community", whatever it is, owns the presale funds. This is neither communism not a corporation. The funds were intended for the development (and promotion) of the coin. The money is gone forever. What you have is the coin. And the dev.  

The coin is not dead. Masternode tried to fud here a bit to scare people. But his position is understandable.

Of course the threat of masternode/otoh potential future dump is unpleasant. They can do this slowly.  They can manipulate the price at will.  Are there OTC buyers interested in their share? This seems unlikely. It would be better to have many smaller buyers, of course

Agree. I have had coins on 7 different exchanges which were hacked or scammed, and I believe BTER will handle this well. I will continue using them if they are around in future.

Bter is doing a really GOOD JOB despite all the critics. Other exchanges in their situtation has closed the doors and run away.

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They seem to be kidding. I won't get to trading if I'm not able to withdraw my funds at first. And I'm more than sure that I will move my coins elsewhere from bter at the first opportunity, then will wait and see how it all turns out.