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1561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 07, 2023, 10:07:49 PM
Wow what happened to Newcastle? I noticed that the quotes were suspicious and made a "safe" bet on Newcastle Double Chance. It was the first choice in a multi-bet of 8 events and it immediately burned out  Undecided
Apparently, Tottenham will also kill many bettors today, since it’s already 94 minutes and the score is 2-1 in favor of West Ham. It turns out to be a continuous round of surprises and defeats for the favorites.
1562  Other / Archival / Re: Таблица Подписных Кампаний за Bitcoin on: December 07, 2023, 10:03:05 PM
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    Но в целом забавно, Теймос работает на своих конкурентов. Такого подарка АТ явно не ожидал. Правда, АТ долгое время был пристанищем подписных спамеров, прикрываясь "дружелюбной атмосферой". Админ никак не боролся с юго-восточными-бангладешскими бото-фермами. В общем, свои приколы там были, конечно. совсем до недавнего времени здесь не знали даже про существование такого форума.

Как-будто БТТ в период своего расцвета был чем-то иным  Grin

Да, и напомню что хоть Теймос и вводит цензуру (степень жесткости значения не имеет) скамы по-прежнему на БТТ не модерируются.
Так что вообще-то пользователи других форумов с иными правилами могут тоже так через губу говорить: а, биткоинтолк? помойка состоящая из мошенников и спамеров? Да слышал  Grin
1563  Local / Идеи / Re: Форк bitcointalk.org on: December 07, 2023, 09:48:04 PM
Ерунда. Пойдите поищите ЦА миксеров в тик-токе, крайне современная платформа, как думаете какова конверсия будет? М?
Что касается мощей накамоткина на них всем наплевать. Будут за контент платить 200 баксов в неделю - будет куча желающих (квалифицированных) этот контент делать и никакие мощи никого волновать не будут (как не волнуют и сейчас).
А для кого они контент будут делать? 1 Миксерам нужен приток новых клиентов для обеспечения ликвидности, но если подписанты будут общаться между собой, имитируя деятельность и оригинальность контента, то никакого притока не будет. 2 Новые пользователи хотя бы что-то оригинальное делают: задают вопросы, создают темы, провоцируют более-менее интересные дискуссии, а на новом форуме это не будет, потому что его никто не знает. 3 Зато все знают Сатоши Накамото и поэтому сначала пойдут сюда и будут создавать контент здесь.4 Это чем-то похоже на многочисленные форки битка, там тоже пытаются решить проблемы первой криптовалюты, и даже где-то решают их, но к популярности это не приводит, потому что всем нужен оригинал, а не форк.5

Дичь какую-то пишите. Попробую ответить все-таки.
1 Контент будут делать для тех же для кого делают и здесь - контентмейкеры квалифицированные и нет разницы где будет этот контент "лежать" он будет иметь ценность сам по себе.
2 Почему имитировать? Мы же уже определились с тем что контентмейкеры квалифицированные. А на хороший контент и его обсуждение и пользователи новые придут.
3 Ну так любой продукт когда-то был неизвестным. Наоборот хороший потенциал к развитию.
4 И получат нахуй бан потому что местные "криптаны" стухли и миксеры им не по нраву.
5 Да, да именно поэтому биток плетется за Эфиром нынче (с отставанием в два года - я про НФТ) потому что всем нужно старье.



Тем временем идея реализуется хотя и в другой форме: стало возможным "телепортироваться" на другой форум с сохранением ранга.
Посмотрю я где будет активность если там реально миксеры осядут и будут платить по 100-200 баксов в неделю, а здесь еще и казино хлопнут  Grin
1564  Local / Русский (Russian) / Re: 🚫Запрет миксеров на форуме Bitcointalk c 1 января 2024 on: December 07, 2023, 09:29:36 PM
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Более чем уверен, что руководители чипмиксера и синбада прекрасно знали о том, что хакеры КНДР регулярно использовали их миксеры для отмывания средств, но, видимо, их это устраивало.

Мыслепреступление совершили не иначе  Grin
Интересно, почему их должно было что-то не устраивать? Крипта она такая - "не ваши ключи не ваши биткоины". То что какие-то там обосравшиеся спецслужбы не могут хакеров угомонить, не означает что все остальные должны на каждый чих у них разрешение просить. Ну это если вы конечно вообще знакомы с идеологией крипты (ради чего все затевалось).

Я реально не понимаю - это действительно непонятно что если что-то нецензурируемо то оно и для хакеров/педофилов нецензурируемо? Если децентрализованно, то и для хакеров/педофилов децентрализованно.
Объясните мне кто-нибудь на каком этапе понимания этого простого факта происходит ступор?
1565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 07, 2023, 09:19:21 PM
Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).

I am not sure if Bayern Munich will play to win this match. If Bayern Munich is playing to win then I would say winning against Manchester United is not a tough task for Bayern Munich. I watched Bayern Munich's match against Copenhagen. There was no will to win in Bayern Munich's players. Bayern Munich players performed very badly. And if Munich's players perform similarly against Manchester United, then Munich has the possibility of losing points against Manchester United as well.

I didn't see the game against Copenhagen, but I read Müller's post-match interview and he was very angry that Bayern couldn't win. If you doubt that Bayern will play to win, remember last season - Bayern qualified after the 4th round (4 wins), but in the remaining games that were no longer important for it, it beat Inter 2-0 and Barcelona 3-0. And it was that crisis Bayern without a good striker.
1566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: December 07, 2023, 09:10:19 PM
Yes, I would really like to place bets in Pot B in advance as I'm already tired of missing out on it.
ain on the Champions League games, I prefer to either lose everything or bring the free bet to a significant amount.

I'll post it up tomorrow. It's been a crazy week, no excuse of course, but I noted posting a week in advance over 4 days in advance didn't really help/hurt submission rates.

Early morning my time -- roughly 15 hours from now, so don't worry!

Thanks in advance! I’m also having a crazy week, and given that I’ll be working 24 hours on Saturday, I have every chance of missing the forecast again if I don’t make it tomorrow  Grin
By the way, I think everyone who goes all-in will bet on Red Star? It looks as logical as possible (City cannot lose again after all the failures) and the coefficient is therefore normal (albeit less than 10). How funny it will be if Red Star really wins and half of the participants receive such a boost  Grin
1567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 07, 2023, 09:00:51 PM
There is too much talk about who will take the title, and we don’t even know the composition of the participants in the 1/8 finals. I suggest you remember the bookmakers’ quotes before clubs from the Champions League enter the competition, which can seriously change the balance of power:

Liverpool 3.33

Bayer 04 Leverkusen 7.35

As Roma 14.70

Brighton And Hove Albion 16.66

West Ham United 20.58

Villarreal 22.54

Liverpool is the clear favorite, but the quotes show that the bookmakers have “reserved” significant odds for those who can get into the tournament from the Champions League.
1568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 07, 2023, 08:52:23 PM

This week i opt for this bet, just Inter (because can win easy with Udinese) and my beloved Juventus, can win versus Napoli.
  • Inter Milan - Udinese i will bet on Inter Milan
  • Juventus - Napoli i will bet on Juventus

My 3 euros on this bet.

The bet on Juventus seems logical, but what confuses me is that if Napoli actually loses, it will be their fourth defeat in five games (including the Champions League). And for Juventus the unbeaten streak will reach 10 games. Are these teams so different in class now that this has to happen? I might take a chance and bet on Napoli or at least a double chance on Napoli.
1569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 07, 2023, 03:49:43 PM
Considering that, from the bookmakers' point of view, Barcelona has approximately a 30% chance of losing points, based on your assessment, you can safely bet on Barcelona. But I think it's too risky. Even though Barcelona wins tough games (eg against Atlético Madrid) they have too many tough games - even against outsiders. Girona looks like a more “vigorous” team and Girona’s goal difference is at least a little better than Barcelona’s. I see no reason why Girona cannot put up a serious fight in this game or even win it.

I think this betting is very difficult, because according to predictions the chance of winning could potentially be achieved by Barcelona but for some reason right now I prefer to bet on Girona winning because in essence I see Girona's performance is very good, and according to the standings alone because Girona is in the standings 2nd place he has 38 points but in the match when Girona faced Bilbao I saw that Girona's performance was slightly reduced because the result was a 1-1 draw but indeed Barcelona is a strong team and the proof is that when they faced Bilbao Barcelona won the match with a score of 1-0 so indeed Barcelona too has privileges that Girona doesn't have, but when facing Rayo Barcelona drew with a score of 1-1 but when Girona faced Rayo Girona won the match with a score of 1-2 yes this is a difficult situation to predict who will win later, it looks like we have to see Girona's performance tomorrow in the match against Orihuela in the Copa Del Rey league so that we can learn more and measure the extent of Girona's strength.

Personally, I decided to skip this game completely. Neither BTTS nor Total attracts me. I really have no idea how this game will go. And it’s not about Girona, if there was a game between Girona and the same team as Girona, then I would be sure that the total would be more than 2.5 and BTTS, even with odds of 1.5, would be profitable. The problem is in Barcelona. Maybe they will play the bus, maybe they will have problems converting chances. The score can be either 1-0, 0-0, 0-1, or 3-2. I won't risk it here.
1570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 07, 2023, 03:16:16 PM

Buwaytress likes bets with odds of 10, I’m not sure that odds of 4.70 (as the Aston Villa win is currently quoted) will attract him.
I hope City will lose points again and the bookmakers will understand that they were in a hurry to give the title to City with odds of 1.1.

I definitely wouldn't have seen this if not for the notify heh.

Correct on me missing this loss (I put a freebet on this but not any of my own money). Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs all had better odds (yes, at Etihad of course) so those were bets I took easily.

Villa even at home, I can't be sure against City. It wasn't a value bet in my eyes. I don't mind City losing points, would throw money away for that heh.


Yes, it was not a value bet "before the game". But when I look at the statistics, I understand that Villa was undervalued:

Shots - 22:2
Shots on target – 7:2
Corners – 6:0

In fact, they simply destroyed City and the score 1-0 is a great success for the guests. As I heard throughout the game, only Haaland had one chance and nothing more.
I'm even more impatiently waiting for the tour to end and the bookmakers to update the quotes. It seems to me that we can already say that City were dethroned.
1571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏆Rollbit.com | Champions League Pool | $11,000+ in Prizes ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: December 07, 2023, 02:41:34 PM
Nice to know you guys can still have fun with Rollbit betting when Champions League is "offline" but buwaytress needs to put the new links here soon as weekend is almost here!

Yes, I would really like to place bets in Pot B in advance as I'm already tired of missing out on it.

I'll spend my promo freebet (refund $50) on next game. So you can't use it for multibet? Means I need to bet on United to win lol Nah it goes to my fav French league Smiley



Yes, you can only use a free bet for a single bet, but in reality this is not a problem since there are always interesting outcomes that seem profitable. Apparently you are confident in Strasbourg and we will look at the result in a few hours. Good luck!
I plan to bet my winnings again on the Champions League games, I prefer to either lose everything or bring the free bet to a significant amount.
1572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 07, 2023, 02:18:24 PM
Mathematically, it's still very much possible for Manchester United to progress to the next round of the UEFA Champions League competition and that's if they can beat Bayern Munich at home while Copenhagen play our a draw against Galatasaray but in my own opinion, they'll need a miracle to reach the round of 16 in the competition because the last two matches in the group is very unlikely to produce such results.  Bayern Munich has been very impressive since the start of the season and are one of the few clubs that are yet to lose a game in the competition so for Manchester United to beat them in that game at Old Trafford next week, they'll have to play to their full strength while hoping for Bayern Munich boss Thomas Tuchel not to field his strongest squad since they've already won the group.

Copenhagen home game against Galatasaray is also unlikely to produce a draw because the two teams knows what's at stake going into the game. Copenhagen will be playing in front of their home fans and that I think will give them extra motivation to win the game and progress to round of 16 while Turkish champions Galatasaray also will be seeking to win the game to reach the knockout stages. Any of the three teams between Manchester United, Copenhagen and Galatasaray can still qualify but Manchester United in my opinion are in a more difficult situation to make to the knockout stages of the competition.

Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).
1573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 07, 2023, 01:41:33 PM
Grin Oh you!
Barcelona is experiencing a certain chaos in transfers, but this is less about Xavi and more about the fact that the club has been on the verge of bankruptcy for the last couple of years, so even if they make the transfer they wanted, they cannot impose their conditions. As in the case of Dembélé, for example. Barcelona is now far from being an attractive club for good/near top players and all the problems come from this (naturally, unresolved financial problems also have a negative impact).

Other than some players Barcelona is trying to hire for their teams, I think should try harder to keep the player they currently have in the team.
For example, currently, Clément Lenglet is seriously close to leaving Barcelona for Bayern Munich and is linked to this team.
He is currently playing at Aston Villa on loan while Bayern Munich wants to hire this French player and improve the team during the winter.



Yes, I wrote a long time ago that there is no point (if I were Barcelona) in trying to maintain the same level of expenses as successful top clubs until they sort out their financial problems. If they fail to sell Lewandowski to Saudi Arabia, then in fact his transfer will be a super failure. Barcelona could well play for a couple of years relying on its academy and young players, but no, Xavi is always trying to buy someone, but due to the salary cap and deteriorating image, Barcelona does not get the best options. At the same time, as can be seen from your example, promising players can be lured by other clubs.
1574  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: December 07, 2023, 01:27:33 PM
По-моему ребята вы перегрелись на солнце немного. Какой двойной курс? Какая мобилизация?
Что касается мобилизации, то уже по предприятиям много где добровольцев уже не берут и в военкоматах уже чуть ли не выбирают кого брать и даже не сравнить с тем что было год назад.

Зачем двойной курс если и так все налажено, все что внутри за местные куки - еда, вода, услуги, связь и прочее, а если что нужно купить для этого есть валюта, уже каналы налажены, хочешь пить заморскую колу плати 90р за бутыль, привезут из ближнего зарубежья без проблем, устроит добрая, бери за 45, в два раза дешевле и так по всему остальному ассортименту.
Так что по сути экономика уже давно живет в двойном контуре и без двойного курса справляется.

Это вы уважаемый немного отморозились судя по всему Wink
Если все так гладко с комплектацией войск, то с чего бы рейды/облавы проводятся как по предприятиям так и в ТРЦ и даже по специфическим местам типа мечетей?

Про экономику которая "справляется" тоже забавно - вы реально совсем никакие новости не читаете? Там и самолеты из строя выходят так как ремкомплектов нет, и скорость интернета страдает из-за недостатка оборудования и прочее и прочее.
То что можно кору дубовую жевать вместо латте это понятно, но адекватные люди не называют это словом "справляться".
1575  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: December 07, 2023, 10:14:51 AM
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Примечательно и то, что на фоне текущего укрепления доллара сми стали распространять информацию о том, что на Мосбирже могут остановить биржевые торги долларом в случае реализации санкционных рисков.

Скорей бы уже  Roll Eyes Двойной курс, черный рынок вот это вот всё.
Грубо говоря до марта можно будет +- безопасно бабло лопатой грести. А там либо снова мобилизация (теперь в еще более жестком варианте) либо отключение интернета. Короче рисков будет слишком много а возможностей мало. Надо успеть хапануть хотя бы напоследок  Grin
1576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: December 06, 2023, 09:29:53 PM
^^^ LOL.. Germany has been placed in the easiest possible group. Scotland did well during the qualifiers, but they are not considered as one of the strongest teams in UEFA. The other two teams (Hungary and Switzerland) in Group A doesn't have any chance of qualifying for the knockout stage. On the other hand, Group B is extremely tough with three very strong teams - Spain, Croatia and Italy. Still we don't have the complete picture yet, as the qualifying playoffs are not yet complete. There is a chance that teams like Iceland and Ukraine may qualify.

It would be strange if Germany, as the number 1 seeded team, ended up in a difficult group. Since the number of groups was increased by 50% (from 4 to 6), half of the groups are extremely easy and such an event as a death group almost never occurs. Moreover, if you consider that not only the first two places get to the 1/8 finals, but also four teams that took third place in the groups, it turns out that the entire group stage is a farce.
1577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 06, 2023, 09:12:59 PM
Xavi is now targeting a new winger to be recruited by the club.

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Barcelona have made contact with Girona winger Savinho ahead of a potential 2024 transfer as Xavi pushes for reinforcements in attack.
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/barcelona-transfer-talks-girona-savinho-xavi-extra-attacking-reinforcements-goal-shy-2023-24/

It seems like that barcelona is trying to hijack important player from girona. I hope savinho will stay much longer in the club. Will barcelona take another loan to buy him? this club has not yet sorted out its financial problem. Xavi was so dumb. This guy is always buying the players but barcelona was rarely making profit. Xavi can keep try to buy more players and keep the old players till those guys will be leaving with free agent. I shall give xavi an applause caused by his strategy will make barcelona goes bankrupt even faster.

barcelona rarely selling its player in profit. Barcelona has very big expenses and the club now in negative balance sheet. Xavi shall not be dumb enough to recruit the new players without even see the financial condition of club.
Im waiting for what's gonna be the next move from xavi. Hijacking competitor's player will not always become the best solution.

 Grin Oh you!
Barcelona is experiencing a certain chaos in transfers, but this is less about Xavi and more about the fact that the club has been on the verge of bankruptcy for the last couple of years, so even if they make the transfer they wanted, they cannot impose their conditions. As in the case of Dembélé, for example. Barcelona is now far from being an attractive club for good/near top players and all the problems come from this (naturally, unresolved financial problems also have a negative impact).
1578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 06, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
Today I read that UEFA is going to let Christiano Ronaldo's Al Nassr to participate in UEFA Champion's League. Does anyone know if that's true? If that's true, then we will be able to see Christiano Ronaldo playing against European teams to win Champions League. I think Al Nassr is a weak team but it will be amazing to be able to see him playing in Europe again. If they let Christiano's Al Nassr to play in Champions League, then they will also let Messi's Inter Miami to play in Champions league too and we will be able to see two GOATs again. I hope this is not a rumor and it's true. Can anyone confirm it?

So far there is no confirmation of these rumors. And I would not pay attention to rumors at all, since they are often fantastic, for example, just recently I read that the Saudis have a plan to buy out the entire European Champions League and change it by making it a world Champions League. It sounds cool, but unfortunately this is also just a rumor and most likely someone’s invention.
And by the way, I don’t understand why you call Al-Nasr a weak team - all sorts of Victoria, Red Star, Young Boys, etc. regularly play in the Champions League. Al-Nasr is clearly stronger than them.
1579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 06, 2023, 06:48:33 PM
They will try to beat each other and get 3 points. Girona want to stay away from Barca and Barca want to get closer to staying on the path of the La Liga champions. But mentally, I feel very confident if Barcelona are able to win and the worst result is 1 point. Girona are going strong but I'm not pessimistic about Barcelona. It seems that there is only a 10 percent chance of Barcelona dropping points.

Source: google.com

Considering that, from the bookmakers' point of view, Barcelona has approximately a 30% chance of losing points, based on your assessment, you can safely bet on Barcelona. But I think it's too risky. Even though Barcelona wins tough games (eg against Atlético Madrid) they have too many tough games - even against outsiders. Girona looks like a more “vigorous” team and Girona’s goal difference is at least a little better than Barcelona’s. I see no reason why Girona cannot put up a serious fight in this game or even win it.
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 06, 2023, 06:35:32 PM
Yes, this is the third draw in a row for City and there is a game with Aston Villa ahead - I wonder who will bet against City? A fourth draw in a row against a team at the top of the league looks quite logical.
What surprised me most was that I guessed the exact score of the Chelsea - Brighton game. Lol I don’t even remember what I was thinking when I chose 3-2, but besides me, another person made a prediction for this outcome.

I guess buwa always bets against them he must be feeling so annoyed he didn't go for DNB or DB. I guess odds look good for them to lose but not for anything else.

3-2 seems getting more and more common I try them now in other leagues (2-1 is my most boring but most safe pick to me also like you said aboe it's the "best" outcome for almost the most common results).

Buwaytress likes bets with odds of 10, I’m not sure that odds of 4.70 (as the Aston Villa win is currently quoted) will attract him.
I hope City will lose points again and the bookmakers will understand that they were in a hurry to give the title to City with odds of 1.1.

That other person will be more. I initially picked a 2-2 draw, but after the Europa league match that Brighton played and their depleted squad expected Chelsea to come out on top, with their home advantage, so I changed it on the matchday to 3-2 in favour of Chelsea. Really surprised it turned out correct.

I am really gutted Nketiah hit the post with the chance in the final minutes to take Arsenal 3-1 ahead. That would have been another exact score.

- Jay -

If I remember correctly, I paid attention to the Total from the bookmakers, plus the fact that Chelsea began to score a lot and concede a lot, and it seemed to me that 3-2 fits well into the pattern.
Regarding Arsenal, I thought they would win 3-0. I was a little mistaken  Grin
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