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1941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde on: January 31, 2023, 04:15:09 PM
I reckon the fight was already decided from 5th round onwards because Yarde was taking much damage and already having troubles to breath thus, he was very different from what we saw from him in the first 3-4 rounds where he's well composed and seems like he can really manage.

I forgot which round when Yarde started to open his mouth but that was clearly the signal that he is about to be done unless he catches Beterbiev first. I am surprised he survived that long. Yarde without a doubt has a warrior's heart as it reached round 8 before he finally got hurt and down. When he was knocked down he was clearly out, his facial reaction showed it but he was undecided whether to quit or not so the referee signals the fight to continue. Good thing his corner stopped it before Beterbiev could unleash more punishing blows.

Hopefully, Bivol is next for Beterbiev as we all want to see undisputed champions in all of boxing's divisions.
1942  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Throw more light to the associated risks involved than just the profits. on: January 31, 2023, 03:55:35 PM
There is no such thing as easy money. Bitcoin is an online decentralized money and just like fiat and stocks, the market always goes up and down. This is a common problem because even those that are well-educated in different fields do not have a deep understanding of how money and our financial system work. Just the other day, my father an engineering graduate called and informed me that someone told him about an online bank that gives 7% monthly returns to its depositors and that he is interested but he also needs my opinion first. 
1943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Being Lonely drives you towards Gambling....! on: January 31, 2023, 03:31:43 PM
I tried it in the past and I mostly lost my bets so I won't do it again. But why gamble a lot when lonely? It is not advised to gamble since people are already in emotional situations. I prefer to choose something that makes me happy to create good vibes like watching movies, videos, or playing online games. Even sports betting during a bad mood might be a factor to produce a bad analysis making the bet a high probability of losing.

Although gambling during times people are lonely isn't that bad if only they know their limits. 
1944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: January 30, 2023, 04:06:47 PM


What a throw by blacklist. Game 3 was so boring. Blacklist already has the lead and almost mega creeps and they cannot close the game. They stall the game and placed the Naga in a better position. They are too afraid of the Naga that pushed the game to a very late game. It is a waste of bet. Blacklist is now tied with Talon and will play later for a tie breaker for Lima Major.

It was a deciding ticket to Lima major since the loser will only have 3 hours to rest before facing Talon. It seems that both teams do not want to take huge risks at that stage of the game. And I thought Blacklist will benefit it with more clones and units to outmaneuver the bases of Geek. Geek though remained patient waiting for that big single mistake.

Blacklist just lost easily to Talon by 0-2. Those 3 games with Geek including two 70+ minutes games must be very exhausting for them. And it is difficult to easily move on from those games and refresh within 3 hours. 
1945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MMA Info and Predictions - Bellator, KSW, PFL, ONE... on: January 30, 2023, 03:45:00 PM
I have noticed a lot of fighters try themselves in boxing. Maybe there was something in Ngannou words, when he talked about slavery UFC contract. Otherwise I cant explain why fighters, when they finish their career, instead of retire, they switch to boxing or bare knuckle fights. They could have switched into coaching, or being hired training partners for younger and less experienced fighters, or open their own gym. Yet they being quite old for the sport, go boxing. Money is their motivator ?

This also explains why Jake Paul always wanted to fight UFC fighters that are already retired or those who are not getting enough money when they fight, he offered them some huge cash and they took the bait because they haven't got enough money when they were in the UFC. that's a big opportunity for him and now we already know one of the reasons why they fight him despite them being one of the legends in the UFC.

On the other hand, boxing gives them most of their rights and they really wanted to switch professions because after all is their body and they are the one who needs to fully earn from it, not just some individual who owns the company like the UFC.


It feels bad seeing legends getting mauled by younger fighters that they should've beaten during their primes. And it's the same when stars from other sports like the UFC cross over just to get exploited and destroyed for money. I cannot blame them though especially if the amounts offered are life-changing to them. They would rather take a punch from Jake Paul and get shamed for millions.

Imagine Jon Jones' rematch with Cormier with a PPV buys of 800k. His guaranteed purse of $500k ballooned to around $2m. But that PPV buys figure in boxing at that same time would've guaranteed an easy minimum of $20m payouts for all the fighters in the event. It's funny when some people tried to defend UFC contracts and purse sharing, especially its stars.
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: January 30, 2023, 02:44:07 PM
What a game between Blacklist and Geek earlier. I thought Geek are aiming for quick victories but it was Blacklist that always dominates the late games. Not until Geek dragged it into very long extended minutes and were patiently waiting for Blacklist to commit a single mistake.

Now it is Blacklist versus Talon for SEA's last slot to Lima major. I felt bad for Blacklist who already beat Talon before but now they might feel the exhaustion from those overextended games earlier and their mindsets are affected by the heartbreaking defeats at the hands of Geek. 3 hours of rest might not be enough but hopefully, they can steal the remaining 2 maps.
1947  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde on: January 30, 2023, 02:24:29 PM
The pressure is more on Yarde because there's already lots of people who are thinking that he can't really make any difference and defeat Artur Beterbiev on the process, but I'd like to see how Yarde will prove himself that he's not someone who is complacent enough because he also got some skills that can give some struggles to the favorite champion. It may be hard for Yarde but the reward are so fruitful to ignore if ever he can upset Beterbiev.

I think the pressure to win is more on Beterviev because most of the fans are rooting for him to win and not just win easily but win via knockout as all his wins were via knockout that is why the odds for Beterviev to win by decision is attractive @5.60 but i don't know if Yarde could withstand the onslaught tomorrow.

Have at least ten hours to place my bet so i'm gonna ask the betting experts here on where to place my money  Grin.

@inthelongrun, Baofeng, what's your predictions on this fight bro? Do you think this will last more than five rounds?
Sorry for the late response bai. I am not an expert anyways. But I will never bet on a decision in this fight. You should have stuck to either inside or over 5 rounds which were 50/50 for me because it depends on Yarde's plan to be aggressive early or box smart and do the counters. Either way, Yarde won't have the gas to survive a 12-round fight with a world-class KO artist so it was either he can catch Beterbiev or he's the one getting caught.

Yes, props to Anthony Yarde in this fight, he really trained very hard in every aspect, but there's only one winner here. And good stoppage by his corner, maybe they have seen the Yarde is slowing fading and this could end in a bad knockout.

And not only power in his punch but if Yarde is more accurate, he could have made more damage.

But base on the early punch stats, Beterbiev connected more. He showed a big heart, but really outclass by the best man tonight and that is Beterbiev.

Fight with Bivol next?
Yarde was throwing too many bombs that could've hurt Beterbiev. But the champion is not that easy to hit despite not being quick, he is a smart-thinking champion who knows when to clinch and when to retreat even if he's got a 100% KO ratio.

Huge victory but it shadowed the controversial scorecards of the judges. 2 of the judges gave Beterbiev only 2 and 3 rounds. Punch stats were close in the 1st and 2nd rounds but it was clear that Beterbiev won rounds 3, 4, 5, and 7. It seems that it is getting harder to score a round in the UK just like what happened when Usyk was taking AJ to school yet someone scored it like it was a close fight.

Hopefully, Bob Arum will sit down with team Bivol to negotiate for an undisputed fight this year. It's noted that the WBC last year already banned Russian fighters from competing in their belts and it was also declared that the winner between Beterbiev and Yarde will face a mandatory which is Callum Smith.
1948  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue - WBC and WBO 122 lbs bout - May on: January 30, 2023, 01:46:04 PM

No official date yet but it will be in the month of May. The venue is in Japan and it's the first time that Fulton will fight outside the USA.
Hopefully as soon as possible all of us who are here can see the date/day/month of boxing between Naoya Inoue vs Stephen Fulton.

Fulton has to be convincing if he wants to win this fight, I mean, it will be held in Japan, so the judges might favor Inoue if this will go to the judges scorecards. Inoue is known for knocking out his opponent early, so it's not expected to reach the judges scorecards, but just in case though.

Well, there were many robberies and controversial decisions as well in the US which favors their own fighters. And I haven't heard of a robbery decision in Japan that's regularly hosting many world title fights yearly.

I have nothing but respect for Stephen Fulton for taking the fight in Japan. Inoue even if he is the challenger is the A-side since he is a 3-division and was a former undisputed champion. So Inoue deserves the homecourt advantage. The officiating in Japan should be fine unlike in South Africa and Thailand where the visitor needs a KO to win.
1949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How do you feel about market recovery on: January 30, 2023, 01:18:04 PM
We need to be careful as there's still a big chance that the market will experienced another fall, what we need to do is to have a good preparation, an alternative in case the market expereince another downfall.
I think that's the current sentiment, bitcoin price is really improving but sustainability needs to be ensured to start a better recovery cycle.  Bitcoin may move in a slightly lower range but it still makes slight uptrend rallies.  In those scenarios, we should plan, be cautious and seriously look at the market reality.

As always, bitcoin is the one dictating the whole crypto market. I also believe that the recovery was only good for the damages FTX had done previously. Now we are back to the normal price range when bitcoin was trading between $18k to $24k. There will be a lot of swings in the market this year but overall I expect a better market performance than last year. Bitcoin halving is happening next year which means bitcoin and the whole of crypto will have to move up to a certain level before another ATH happens next year and the year 2025. 
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: January 27, 2023, 12:51:44 PM
Well, I said it correct on this one and Blacklist did really lose against SMG and as Fnatic loses against Execration. It's a big help to Talon that they've got a secured win for their very last match on January 27.

Geek Slate and Blacklist still has 2 matches remaining. And the fate of Talon Esports being the third slot to secure in Lima major will lie on the hands of these two teams that I've mentioned first.

While on WEU, Into the Breach is now out and goes to division 2.

Yeah. What a bummer. Of all the teams, Blacklist lose to the team they're supposed to win. The momentum is on Talon's side now having shut out their opponents in their last 3 series. Geek came from a loss while Blacklist lost all its 4 last maps. It's more like Talon and Geek are the ones to take the last 2 slots for the Lima major.

I guess Nigma is next to fall into division 2. But the most interesting part are the last games of GG, OG, and Tundra. Entity seems like a sure win over Nigma and a chance to earn tickets to Lima.
Yeah, for Talon. But with their situation, since Fnatic is out. They can still play their remaining match against Talon and it's going to be a hard precedent for them if they lose against Fnatic and if they'll still play for this match even they've got no more chance of staying in the division 1.

Currently, Talon and Geek are the most possible team to qualify but there are still games left for SEA's dpc.


Geek woes continue as they seem losing their rhythm. They lost their 4th straight map against SMG. While Blacklist survived a scare and bounced back with a 2-1 win over BOOM. Blacklist versus Geek seems like a duel for the last slot. Unless Fnatic who already won game 1 will finally take its 1st win in this qualifier against Talon. Great games coming up in the region, thrilling and very important. 

As for Nigma, we'll see then the battle for the division 2.  Grin
I was talking earlier as a fan. Cheesy I just actually bet over 2.5 maps today for Secret vs Nigma. Nigma obviously had a better performance lately but I hope Secret wins.   
1951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I want to ask, at the end of the bitcoin and altcoin year, will the price go up on: January 27, 2023, 12:21:11 PM
This happens every time. People doubt it when it’s down and then regret not investing when it’s up. Same thing happens when stocks go down and when the house market goes down. People get scared. The next couple of months will have fake pumps to get people to FOMO into the market before it hits new lows this summer..

Well, we are in a difficult situation where the world economy is unstable due to COVID-19 and then we have the invasion of Ukraine by Russia. People who do not have too much money and savings are scarce hence many, especially those that do not have a lot of experience in the crypto market will be scared as there are always no guarantees. Even your prediction that the market will have new lows this summer isn't guaranteed as well. Do you really believe that bitcoin will drop lower than $15K? Because I don't think so but we will see.
1952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 27, 2023, 11:58:03 AM
Got it right for first half in Bulls game and I knew that Horners are a 2nd half team and this is exactly what happened. Unfortunately for me , I didn't click place bet  Grin Grin Grin and I woke up today so happy until I checked My Bet list and saw nothing haha...imagine my reaction Sad.
That was unfortunate mate. I remember a few years ago when I also didn't notice that I typed 1 more zero. So instead of 0.003 BTC it became 0.0003 BTC and I was disappointed when I woke up the next morning. Cheesy

Anyway , I'm also glad that Mavs won against Suns and Luka had another chance to show his magic and skills. Now , I remember well that last year , some players from Suns trash talked Luka and how did that end up ? With Suns taking a huge L from Mavs.
Luka only played 3 minutes mate as he was injured. Hopefully, his injury is not that bad and he can play as early as possible. Nonetheless, it was a joint effort by the Mavs spearheaded by Spencer Dinwiddie who stepped up the gas and was raining shots in his season-high 36 points.

There's always been talks and intrigue about these 2 teams since the Mavs made an upset and knocked the Suns out in the playoffs in 2021. It seems like some Phoenix fans and maybe even Booker himself hasn't moved on yet.
1953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: January 27, 2023, 11:14:25 AM
In any case though, all fingers point to Errol Spence and his camp regarding the fall out, and it seems that he is not denying it isn't it? because we just hear him and his team says that they don't need Crawford because they have cemented their legacy already. But as fans we think otherwise, we need to see this fight happening as we want to see the best fighting against each other, and that is the history of that division.

People already know the truth and it's evident enough why all fingers are pointing towards Errol Spence Jr. and Al Haymon, the fact is, the played Terence Crawford for months and let him expect that a fight will materialize. They haven't thought about their move well that someday it would backfire at them as they can't just hold those belts forever even if they got some influence.

Spence's camp are just hiding behind the reason that they already cemented their legacy, therefore Crawford won't be needed anymore. Honestly, when did they cemented it? After Ugas fight? Grin They can't honestly fool everyone with that kind of shallow reasoning.

Yes, I think they are and probably this is what they have brainwash Spence for thinking that he had a good career and cemented his career at 147 lbs without fighting Crawford.

I would agree that he has a good resume, no doubt, but there is one name missing in that record and that is Terrence Crawford.

So in any case he beat Thurman, still though there is this huge question in front of him for not fighting Bud.

I really doubt that Spence cemented his legacy already. He owns 3 belts in the division but he is still not considered the lineal and Ring belt champion of the division because the rule is for #1 and #2 to fight each other for the vacant Ring belt and be considered lineal. I say Errol Spence's name will never be considered in the Hall of Fame with his current accomplishments. If Spence has no plans to face Crawford then he needs to become undisputed at 154 or at least conquer 2 more divisions in order to cement his legacy in the Hall of Fame.

While Terrence Crawford has more than enough to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. In reality, it is Crawford that do not need Spence when it comes to legacy. Crawford is already a 3 division champion and was the first undisputed champion at 140 in this 4-belt era. But Crawford clearly wanted more to his legacy as he is also aiming to become the first ever 2 or 3-division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era. What's stopping Crawford from that chance is Spence and his close friend Jermell Charlo the undisputed champion at 154.     
1954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 26, 2023, 10:47:10 AM
The return of Brandon Ingram is not enough to end the Pelicans' losing streak. Ingram seems lost and is still to find his rhythm after his long injury. The Pelicans tried to control the game but things changed when the Timberwolves gained momentum in the 3rd quarter and maintained it until the end. Another huge number came from Anthony Edwards with 37 points.

This is the 3rd straight 30+ points by Edwards. Hopefully, he can bring the same momentum when Ja Morant and the Grizzlies visit Minnesota in their next game. Also today, the Grizzlies lost a wild game against GSW. That's the 4th straight loss suffered by the Grizzlies yet they are still looking strong at top 2 in the west.  

Ingram did not play as well as people might have thought he would. It was actually CJ, who scored most of the points for the Pelicans. Of course, the pelicans had some problems with attacking. But I also believe that they also had some problems with the defending as well because they absolutely could not do anything about Anthony Edwards scoring point after point.

I am not giving any individual player any shit talk. Because the Timberwolves had a good all-round team performance in this game. Which the pelicans obviously had lacked. And of course, better performance was expected from Ingram in my opinion.


regards

duke

Maybe if the Pelicans limit Ingram touching the ball and just focused the offense more on CJ or made Valanciunas and other players as better offensive options, they could've made that game close or even a win. 

We'll see if Ingram performs better in their next game and stop the bleeding. Their next game will be against the visiting Wizards. Still, a winnable game for the Pelicans since they are at home but the Wizards are also on a 4 game-winning streak. We might see good odds here for the visiting Wizards.
1955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ESports betting -CS:GO, DOTA 2, LOL, Valorant - Sportsbet.io discussion thread on: January 26, 2023, 10:20:09 AM
There's a chance that Blacklist will lose against SMG,
Well, I said it correct on this one and Blacklist did really lose against SMG and as Fnatic loses against Execration. It's a big help to Talon that they've got a secured win for their very last match on January 27.

Geek Slate and Blacklist still has 2 matches remaining. And the fate of Talon Esports being the third slot to secure in Lima major will lie on the hands of these two teams that I've mentioned first.

While on WEU, Into the Breach is now out and goes to division 2.

Yeah. What a bummer. Of all the teams, Blacklist lose to the team they're supposed to win. The momentum is on Talon's side now having shut out their opponents in their last 3 series. Geek came from a loss while Blacklist lost all its 4 last maps. It's more like Talon and Geek are the ones to take the last 2 slots for the Lima major.

I guess Nigma is next to fall into division 2. But the most interesting part are the last games of GG, OG, and Tundra. Entity seems like a sure win over Nigma and a chance to earn tickets to Lima.
1956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Nonito Donaire vs Jason Moloney on: January 26, 2023, 09:55:35 AM
Although there's a huge gap in age, I still think Donaire could be a dominating fighter once he gets his rhythm.
Both boxers lost against Naoya Inoue, both were KO'ed by the young superstar too. (Donaire vs Inoue 2) Although I also want to point out how difficult it was for Inoue at their first fight. Lasted 12 rounds, Inoue was also hurt in the process.
I believe The Flash still has it, the punching power is there although his movements might become limited to preserve his stamina. Moloney on the other hand could use that to his advantage.
This might become a fight with an unpredictable winner unlike other events that happened recently, I hope the odds will be balanced for good profits.

My analysis is that anybody of the top 10 bantamweights might be able to outpunch this version of Donaire but the question is if they can survive the whole 36 minutes without getting hit by those killer hooks. The power of Donaire in this weight is just too much to absorb. Inoue was lucky it was an old Donaire that faced him, otherwise, he would've been stopped especially when he has hurt already in their first fight.

I will have my bet on Donaire but only if the fight happens outside of Australia. Moloney is also a KO artist and the crowd might boost his morale and conditioning and be able to evade all those hooks by fighting smart and consistently holding if the referee allows him to do so, being the home fighter.

Nonetheless, I am also hopeful that Donaire gets his wish of fighting El Gallo Estrada for a chance to become a 5 division champion.
1957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tell me about the coin portfolio. on: January 26, 2023, 09:28:03 AM
ATOM, DOT, Kusama will be a good diversification of Ethereum.For long-term investment, it is better to buy coins that do not look like stocks and were not sold at the ICO.

Nice. I'll be putting ATOM, DOT, and Kusama in my growing list of coins that I need to DYOR for possible investment. I guess I need to give it a proper time to check them 1 by 1. We still have over a year though to study and accumulate coins that have huge potential to grow in the expected bull run next year. I am just so excited.

I might also move all my remaining local stocks into cryptocurrencies this year. If it happens, it will make my crypto investment portfolio about 80% to 90%. I just felt more comfortable for crypto to have a better performance in the next 2 years.
1958  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Pilipinas Merit Cafe on: January 26, 2023, 09:03:05 AM
Sana yung mga nagPM ng post review kay Coin_trader ay magpost rin dito para naman dagdag bump sa lokal natin. Gawa nga sana akong topic kaso baka lalangawin lang. Cheesy Tungkol sana nung Youtube video ni Bisayang Hilaw kung saan tinesting niya at ng kanyang gf na gumamit lamang ng bitcoin sa loob ng 24 hours sa isla ng Boracay. At nagawa nga nila. Nakakatuwa. Although Pouch ata yung app which is di ako familiar pero not bad na din.   
1959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue - WBC and WBO 122 lbs bout - May on: January 26, 2023, 08:52:59 AM
Alright! Hopefully, Fulton is committed to the challenge and is willing to travel to Japan. And I am also hoping that Fulton put this matter into his own hands and stops Al Haymon of PBC from deciding what to happen next to his career. Earlier, it was announced by the WBC to let Fulton and Figueroa do a rematch at 126 for the vacant WBC or the interim belt depending on the outcome of current 126 WBC champion Rey Vargas who's also moving up to 130 for the vacant 130 WBC belt. If Vargas losses at 130 then he can remain as champion at 126 and face the interim champ. I wonder what will be the reaction of Al Haymon after the arrangements earlier will be canceled due to Fulton's willingness to give Inoue (a rival Top Rank fighter) a shot at his 2 belts.

Gonna be hard for Fulton though, unless he separate from Al Haymon, but in any case, if he agrees to fight Inoue in Japan it could have been with the blessings of PBC already? or it is they just agreed in principles and then anytime Fulton can says no and go up to 126 lbs?

And I'm not aware that the rematch with Figueroa will happen in 126 lbs? it should be in 122 lbs since that is their first fight?

Anyhow, let's see how it goes for Fulton and Inoue here, hopefully the fight can happen as schedule around April-May in Japan.

Inoue and Fulton only agreed to face each other but there are no signed contracts yet. Most likely Fulton is now trying to get the approval of Al Haymon to travel to Japan and defend his 2 belts against a fighter coming from a rival company. Let's just hope that Fulton grows some balls and sticks to his words that he can beat Inoue. If he moves up to 126, I believe he will be stripped of his WBO belt at 122 since Inoue is now mandatory.

Fulton and Figueroa fought each other in order to unify the WBC and WBO belts at 122. The fight deserved a rematch because it was very close. After the defeat, Figueroa went up to featherweight and since Fulton is a reigning 2-belt champion, the WBC presented them an opportunity to rematch at 126 for its belt. 
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 26, 2023, 08:19:33 AM
The return of Brandon Ingram is not enough to end the Pelicans' losing streak. Ingram seems lost and is still to find his rhythm after his long injury. The Pelicans tried to control the game but things changed when the Timberwolves gained momentum in the 3rd quarter and maintained it until the end. Another huge number came from Anthony Edwards with 37 points.

This is the 3rd straight 30+ points by Edwards. Hopefully, he can bring the same momentum when Ja Morant and the Grizzlies visit Minnesota in their next game. Also today, the Grizzlies lost a wild game against GSW. That's the 4th straight loss suffered by the Grizzlies yet they are still looking strong at top 2 in the west.  
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