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August 24, 2013, 11:18:37 PM
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There is no thermal control on KNC's chip is there?
If so then careless overclocking would burn them! Then? What is KnC's policy on this?
I am sure that is what you really ask, though I don't know the answer...

OC = Out of warraty

12 mo warranty = no OC
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August 24, 2013, 11:20:36 PM
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12 mo warranty + no thermal control = trouble.
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August 24, 2013, 11:21:16 PM
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just dont fuck with it. no fucking with it = no worries.
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August 24, 2013, 11:46:15 PM
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12 mo warranty + no thermal control = trouble.

Paid Shill for HashFast in a KnC Thread = Trouble

Where can I sign to be a paid shill  Roll Eyes
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August 24, 2013, 11:47:14 PM
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12 mo warranty + no thermal control = trouble.

Paid Shill for HashFast in a KnC Thread = Trouble

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August 25, 2013, 12:06:25 AM
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Maybe knc will be the next terrahash
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August 25, 2013, 12:13:38 AM
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KNC shills = OC + 12mo warranty  + no thermal control = trouble
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August 25, 2013, 12:23:49 AM
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Anything = trouble
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August 25, 2013, 12:32:49 AM
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Where is the miner protection program?
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August 25, 2013, 12:41:46 AM
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Sounds like peeps never used CGminer before or something. Thermal control is built into the program, Is it not?


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August 25, 2013, 12:43:36 AM
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The miner protection program is by offering refunds prior to delivery which most other ASIC companies don't offer.
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August 25, 2013, 12:48:30 AM
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Where is the miner protection program?
http://hashfast.com/miner-protection-program/


The miner protection program is by offering refunds prior to delivery which most other ASIC companies don't offer.
I read that, not a bad idea.
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August 25, 2013, 01:02:49 AM
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Where is the miner protection program?

Go back to the HashFast thread, paid shill...
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August 25, 2013, 01:05:12 AM
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Where is the miner protection program?

Go back to the HashFast thread, paid shill...
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Seems douchey.

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August 25, 2013, 01:09:30 AM
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He's a paid spokesperson for HashFast.  He has no business stirring up trouble in other manufacturers threads.
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August 25, 2013, 01:21:48 AM
Last edit: August 25, 2013, 03:09:13 AM by Bitcoinorama
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Where is the miner protection program?

Only there is one significant issue with your miner protection / compensation program you seem to overlook.

If Hashfast could produce the product and ship as suggested in the example on their page by the 23rd October 2013, they would know for sure by now, baring complications once chips are in hand, whether they could be made.

With respect to the fab (TSMC), they would know now when they were likely to be squeezed in, as they have to run a hot lot to be in with a chance for that date, and they've only just raised funds to pay.

It's very unlikely that October 20-30th is achievable, and Hashfast would already know now for sure if it is, otherwise using an 'anticipated delivery of 20th-30th October', knowing full well you can't deliver by then, would be incredibly deceitful, especially if one raises funds under the guise it's almost certainly achievable.

So deceitful you may not want to be held accountable by a third party secured payment provider like Paypal, or a plethora of card issuing banks, or offer refunds until 3 months later, perhaps limiting refunds to a two week window, sharing what little amounts would be left after expenses. Not that I believe they are likely to fail, they've taken the money from people who now can't get it back, I believe they know they will be late, or they could tell their customers for sure now when the fab has promised the chips by. After all their customers are already under NDA and deserve a right to know, if such information is to hand, which it is, because the miner protection plan means nothing if you're left faffing around paying and waiting in line again for others to make a second machine with a raw chip, whilst Hashfast deal with the order of their backlog, and possible delays, and the real winners got a significant head start weeks earlier, if they get to receive their goods in time.

Miner Protection Plan seems like a marketing ploy to cover something they are concerned enough about, to withold access to third party consumer protection, and refunds from.

Also, what makes you think the KnC chips can't be clocked? KnC have only promised 400gh/s, with margins upon margins, upon margins. That sounds like potentially a lot of room to play...


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August 25, 2013, 02:07:02 AM
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^^ all time troll feeder ^^

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August 25, 2013, 02:26:43 AM
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^^ all time troll feeder ^^

Meh, he came looking for it, and it's clear they don't want a third party holding them accountable to any dates. They removed any chance of being liable for their customers having any real protection on purpose. Wink

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August 25, 2013, 02:49:07 AM
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Still no photos of the chip.is impossible to have it work at September
Unphotographed chips are perfectly capable of running, believe it or not.

We were not promised, and I do not expect, photos of the chips. Since they will be sent straight from China to their assembler.

In China. Most likely.

Here, put your money where your whining is:

http://bitbet.us/bet/472/kncminer-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-october-1st/


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August 25, 2013, 04:13:09 AM
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^^ all time troll feeder ^^

Meh, he came looking for it, and it's clear they don't want a third party holding them accountable to any dates. They removed any chance of being liable for their customers having any real protection on purpose. Wink

They won't be ready in October, that's a pipe dream... they didn't even tape out yet. By the time they ship their miners, KNC should have shipped their September and October orders. It is fairly probable that they will eventually deliver, but by then KNC should have cheaper hardware and the proud owners of BabyJets will probably feel that their units are more Baby than Jets Cheesy.
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