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September 27, 2020, 01:48:39 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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That's Machu Picchu, and it's not that old.
Notre-Dame de Paris is centuries older than that, believe it or not.
Hagia Sophia is like 1000 years older.
(More stuff) Keep in mind the only reason we see these buildings is because they are still around. They were found to be "beautiful" and didn't collapse over time. For every one of these examples there is 1000+ failures that are erased forever. So you do have a self selection bias. Add to that weathering (things round over time), compression (things like rocks can mold into a shape over time) and just plain luck and you have the ancient aliens stuff. Imagine what will survive from our culture for 10,000 years. Stainless steel butt plugs and dildos. Maybe they will think they are god-images. Maybe they are.
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September 27, 2020, 02:32:33 PM |
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That's Machu Picchu, and it's not that old. Notre-Dame de Paris is centuries older than that, believe it or not. Hagia Sophia is like 1000 years older. France didn't even know that there ware stars in the sky when those structures have been built
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September 27, 2020, 02:33:41 PM |
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That's Machu Picchu, and it's not that old.
Notre-Dame de Paris is centuries older than that, believe it or not.
Hagia Sophia is like 1000 years older.
LOL, France didn't even existed thousands of years ago and yet those structures where already there. I don't believe it because the Maya's/Inca's was a civilization building there sites ontop of a much more advanced civilization same with the Egyptians. Here are some examples, you can clearly see the differences in technology. Like i said before the maya's/Inca's where not responsible for those megaliths. Correct, and the rule is quite simple. The more precise and the bigger the single monolithic blocks = the older the structure is
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September 27, 2020, 03:17:27 PM |
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And when was that exactly? When those structures have been built? Here, look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machu_PicchuFrankly, if the person is standing next to them for scale, the structures are not than impressive:
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September 27, 2020, 03:26:43 PM |
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That's Machu Picchu, and it's not that old.
Notre-Dame de Paris is centuries older than that, believe it or not.
Hagia Sophia is like 1000 years older.
(More stuff) Keep in mind the only reason we see these buildings is because they are still around. They were found to be "beautiful" and didn't collapse over time. For every one of these examples there is 1000+ failures that are erased forever. So you do have a self selection bias. Add to that weathering (things round over time), compression (things like rocks can mold into a shape over time) and just plain luck and you have the ancient aliens stuff. Imagine what will survive from our culture for 10,000 years. Stainless steel butt plugs and dildos. Maybe they will think they are god-images. Maybe they are. read a bit more about the great pyramid . not the lessor ones but the great one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Gizalet me know how they stacked the 80 ton blocks in the year 2500bc
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September 27, 2020, 03:45:58 PM Merited by vapourminer (2) |
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Here's 2,500 years old unfinished statue in Greece, still in the ancient marble quarry. Greeks obviously had plans (and technology) to cut and move it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouros_of_ApollonasThe Kouros of Apollonas, also called the Colossus of Dionysus, is a 10.7 metre[1] tall unfinished statue of light grey Naxian marble with a weight of around 80 tonnes. It is located in an ancient quarry near Apollonas, a small town in the northern part of Naxos, one of the Cycladic Islands in the Aegean Sea.
The figure is roughly carved, but the body, head with beard and ears and the beginning of the hair are roughly recognisable. The arms have been cut by the stonemasons as rudimentary rectangles and the shaping of the feet had been begun; they are located on a 50 cm high plinth. The unfinished kouros lies in a rough stone slope.
According to Carl Blümel, a sculptor and director of the Pergamonmuseum, Greek quarrying in early times was similar to Egyptian quarrying practice. The rough form of the figure was carved out. The sculptors were especially able to work the sides. They worked layer by layer, creating flat contour areas. So the sculptors never worked on a leg, arm or head individually, but always on the sculpture as a whole and thus the whole figure was at the same stage of completion at each moment.[4] Only after the creation of the rough contour was the figure rounded out. This is all clearly demonstrated by the Kouros of Apollonas.
The sculptors used bronze chisels, which have left numerous holes in the sculpture, which were probably also the result of the use of pickaxes and hammers and would have been smoothed out in the course of the work by the use of finer chisels and gentler blows
The statue, which has an estimated weight of about 80 tonnes,[5] had been cut free from the stone on three sides, but it was not completed. On the back of the Kouros there are 5–8 cm wide keyholes, which are between 32 and 37 cm apart. In the centre, between the back of the kouros and the stone is a rectangular hole with a width of 40 cm, for the insertion of a wooden lifting beam. These recesses are located in the main lifting points of Greek monoliths. This ancient quarrying technique can be detected by traces in numerous places in the quarry, since it was not used in later times.
It's less magical, when you look at unfinished work-in-progress... It's just a lot of hard work. But they could do it. They were not stupid.
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September 27, 2020, 03:46:32 PM |
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the theory i like (unsure if its mentioned in the wiki) is they built the land around it up as they built it so they "just" had to move the blocks uphill on logs etc to the stone (thats now even with the new ground level) they wanted it on. when that layer is done move more dirt in so its now even with the new level you just built. then, just remove the dirt. poof. snimple if you have basically unlimited dirt, manpower and time.
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September 27, 2020, 04:05:01 PM |
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And when was that exactly? When those structures have been built? Here, look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machu_PicchuFrankly, if the person is standing next to them for scale, the structures are not than impressive: As it is often stated, DYOR and then come back again
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September 27, 2020, 04:06:55 PM |
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Here's 2,500 years old unfinished statue in Greece, still in the ancient marble quarry. Greeks obviously had plans (and technology) to cut and move it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouros_of_ApollonasThe Kouros of Apollonas, also called the Colossus of Dionysus, is a 10.7 metre[1] tall unfinished statue of light grey Naxian marble with a weight of around 80 tonnes. It is located in an ancient quarry near Apollonas, a small town in the northern part of Naxos, one of the Cycladic Islands in the Aegean Sea.
The figure is roughly carved, but the body, head with beard and ears and the beginning of the hair are roughly recognisable. The arms have been cut by the stonemasons as rudimentary rectangles and the shaping of the feet had been begun; they are located on a 50 cm high plinth. The unfinished kouros lies in a rough stone slope.
According to Carl Blümel, a sculptor and director of the Pergamonmuseum, Greek quarrying in early times was similar to Egyptian quarrying practice. The rough form of the figure was carved out. The sculptors were especially able to work the sides. They worked layer by layer, creating flat contour areas. So the sculptors never worked on a leg, arm or head individually, but always on the sculpture as a whole and thus the whole figure was at the same stage of completion at each moment.[4] Only after the creation of the rough contour was the figure rounded out. This is all clearly demonstrated by the Kouros of Apollonas.
The sculptors used bronze chisels, which have left numerous holes in the sculpture, which were probably also the result of the use of pickaxes and hammers and would have been smoothed out in the course of the work by the use of finer chisels and gentler blows
The statue, which has an estimated weight of about 80 tonnes,[5] had been cut free from the stone on three sides, but it was not completed. On the back of the Kouros there are 5–8 cm wide keyholes, which are between 32 and 37 cm apart. In the centre, between the back of the kouros and the stone is a rectangular hole with a width of 40 cm, for the insertion of a wooden lifting beam. These recesses are located in the main lifting points of Greek monoliths. This ancient quarrying technique can be detected by traces in numerous places in the quarry, since it was not used in later times.
It's less magical, when you look at unfinished work-in-progress... It's just a lot of hard work. But they could do it. They were not stupid. Again, that is the official story like BTC is dead The statue is now in the land of the greeks, but no one can tell you who was in those sites when that was built or in the process of building, that is what the history books are missing
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September 27, 2020, 04:08:02 PM |
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Good to be reminded about the fact that once upon a time Greeks were actually working.
Or wait a minute. They had slaves doing the work for them, right?
Disclaimer: sincere apologies to my Greek friends. I'm visiting your wonderful country with your delicious cuisine at least once a year, but I just couldn't let that one slip.
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September 27, 2020, 04:11:09 PM |
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Good to be reminded about the fact that once upon a time Greeks were actually working.
Or wait a minute. They had slaves doing the work for them, right?
Disclaimer: sincere apologies to my Greek friends. I'm visiting your wonderful country with your delicious cuisine at least once a year, but I just couldn't let that one slip.
Don't forget that the Bavarians brought the financial system and the choke hold to Greece
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September 27, 2020, 04:12:08 PM |
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Again, you are reading from the history books = bullshit
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September 27, 2020, 04:18:59 PM |
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The statue is now in the land of the greeks, but no one can tell you who was in those sites when that was built or in the process of building, that is what the history books are missing Of course they know, it's from Archaic Greece period and they found lots of similar statues from that period, they call them Kouros https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KourosThat particular unfinished statue is either Apollo or Dionysos.
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September 27, 2020, 04:21:20 PM |
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The most magnificent is Göbekli Tepe in Turkey. Not because of what they built, but because of when it was built. 11000 years ago, so in Neolithic and all was built with stone tools. Worth for everyone to google it and check.
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September 27, 2020, 04:22:34 PM |
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Again, you are reading from the history books = bullshit Again, what are your sources?
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September 27, 2020, 04:25:01 PM |
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Once again, they made a lot of clunks that looked like shit at a distance. This led them to design in the perpsective POV so people would pay them money to build buildings. The best ones are still around. Interesting stuff, but no aliens needed.
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September 27, 2020, 04:37:40 PM |
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Happy Sunday, folks. Fifty Thousand projected. This time next year, yo.
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September 27, 2020, 04:39:09 PM |
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Sunday Bart Simpson just means we're right where we were this time yesterday
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