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Author Topic: OFFICIAL CGMINER mining software thread for linux/win/osx/mips/arm/r-pi 4.11.1  (Read 5805220 times)
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October 11, 2011, 09:49:16 AM
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I'm a first time user of this program.Thought I would give it a try today.
It works lovely for all my gpu's except one.I have 2 5770 @960/300 -I 7,9.
2 5870 @ 950-955/215 -I 9,9.I used the same clocks with phoenix 1.6.2,never had a problem.
The miner with the 2 5870's uses an intel e-5300 cpu, which I underclocked  to 1.2 Ghz to save power.
The problem I have is that the 5870 that is clocked at 950/215,always gets pronounced dead by cgminer after about 30-50 min.
I switched this particular card back to Phoenix and it's been doing it's thing for hours now.
I prefer all my cards to be on one efficient miner.Any help would be welcome!



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October 11, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
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I'm a first time user of this program.Thought I would give it a try today.
It works lovely for all my gpu's except one.I have 2 5770 @960/300 -I 7,9.
2 5870 @ 950-955/215 -I 9,9.I used the same clocks with phoenix 1.6.2,never had a problem.
The miner with the 2 5870's uses an intel e-5300 cpu, which I underclocked  to 1.2 Ghz to save power.
The problem I have is that the 5870 that is clocked at 950/215,always gets pronounced dead by cgminer after about 30-50 min.
I switched this particular card back to Phoenix and it's been doing it's thing for hours now.
I prefer all my cards to be on one efficient miner.Any help would be welcome!



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cgminer is so efficient you will need to turn down your OC.  Try it, then notice that you STILL get better MHash/s.  I actually had to turn mine down on a 1.x.x version because of this, and had to turn it down again in 2.0.6, but I'm still getting higher MHash/s now than I was with the 1.x.x version before I had to turn it down.  Note that it may take a few trials to find your new sweet spot.
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October 11, 2011, 11:26:56 AM
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cgminer is so efficient you will need to turn down your OC.  Try it, then notice that you STILL get better MHash/s.  I actually had to turn mine down on a 1.x.x version because of this, and had to turn it down again in 2.0.6, but I'm still getting higher MHash/s now than I was with the 1.x.x version before I had to turn it down.  Note that it may take a few trials to find your new sweet spot.
Lowered the oc to 945/215.Seems to be ok now.
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October 13, 2011, 09:21:47 AM
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Just trying out cgminer.

One thing I noticed is that when it starts my fans kick in full speed.
Is there some way to set it so it keeps the fans low and adjusts them as needed.

I have settings:

gpu-fan : 50-85
auto-fan : true
temp-target : 70

I've tried just setting gpu-fan : 50 but then the auto fan doesn't kick in.

It works fine after 5 minutes of high noise and the fans slowly come down but I'd much prefer if it would start slower and speed up according to heat.

I'm getting a bit less than Phoenix speed wise. Was 630 MH/s steady and now 627 MH/s with cgminer. I have Intensity set to 8 and gpu settings same as with Phoenix. Not sure why it would be slower.

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October 13, 2011, 09:26:49 AM
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Auto fan assumes the worst case scenario: that is that your GPU might actually be fucking hot when you start it, so it automatically starts at a safe 85% speed. It will eventually die down. If you happen to stop and start a miner instantly and start at a low fan it's dangerous, so I intentionally made it do that. If you don't like it you'll have to change the code. Try intensity 9, as the kernels are pretty much identical between phoenix and cgminer these days. It could just be reporting error as cgminer does not lie.

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October 13, 2011, 09:40:21 AM
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Auto fan assumes the worst case scenario: that is that your GPU might actually be fucking hot when you start it, so it automatically starts at a safe 85% speed. It will eventually die down. If you happen to stop and start a miner instantly and start at a low fan it's dangerous, so I intentionally made it do that. If you don't like it you'll have to change the code. Try intensity 9, as the kernels are pretty much identical between phoenix and cgminer these days. It could just be reporting error as cgminer does not lie.
Ah, I see. Would be nice if it adjusted down quicker when the temp is so low. I get about 45-50C at start but fans take quite a while to slow down. I guess it's not a big deal as this happens usually only when the power drops out.

Tried Intensity 9. Seems really variable now. Sometimes 642 MH/s then 587 MH/s. Bounces around a lot more. If that's sounds ok then I suppose it's better. In the end what matters is what the pool says I gave them.

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October 13, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
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Look at (avg) at the top that's what matters to see if you are getting the most Mhash out of your cards.
Or for each GPU line the 2nd number - that is the over time average.

Of course U: (utility) determines your 'pay' but that result will be a statistical average (just like the time to find a block is a statistical average) but not anything that you can be sure will be a certain value.

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October 13, 2011, 01:39:54 PM
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Look at (avg) at the top that's what matters to see if you are getting the most Mhash out of your cards.
Or for each GPU line the 2nd number - that is the over time average.

Of course U: (utility) determines your 'pay' but that result will be a statistical average (just like the time to find a block is a statistical average) but not anything that you can be sure will be a certain value.
Yes, saw those values. They are now about 620 instead of 630, with each card about 5 MH/s less than Phoenix after a few hours mining. I'd heard that cgminer was getting better rates than Phoenix but I'm not seeing that so I may switch back. I do like the CGminer screen and integration of monitoring/failover though. I'll probably decide after a full day of shares and see what the revenue difference ends up being.

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October 13, 2011, 05:48:11 PM
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I've created a small patch for CGMiner 2.0.6 that adds support to glob config files.
eg. how I use it now,

cgminer -c '/etc/cgminer/*'  2>/var/log/cgminer.log

and it will pick up all files there. I use this for multiple pool confs and it makes it easy to add/remove pools without altering my init scripts.

I don't know quite where to put the patch so I've just stuck it in a pastebin for others if they want it.
It's pretty quick'n'dirty (and probably doesn't work on Windows). I noticed I had to put quotes around the path otherwise the '*' causes a parse problem. Maybe there's a way to fix that, not sure, but this is working ok for me as is.

http://pastebin.com/R2rjFm4L


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October 13, 2011, 10:07:24 PM
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I've created a small patch for CGMiner 2.0.6 that adds support to glob config files.
eg. how I use it now,

cgminer -c '/etc/cgminer/*'  2>/var/log/cgminer.log

and it will pick up all files there. I use this for multiple pool confs and it makes it easy to add/remove pools without altering my init scripts.

I don't know quite where to put the patch so I've just stuck it in a pastebin for others if they want it.
It's pretty quick'n'dirty (and probably doesn't work on Windows). I noticed I had to put quotes around the path otherwise the '*' causes a parse problem. Maybe there's a way to fix that, not sure, but this is working ok for me as is.

http://pastebin.com/R2rjFm4L
Since you mention that you don't use Windows, I would GUESS that the fix for your parse error without single quotes would be this:

cgminer -c /etc/cgminer/\*  2>/var/log/cgminer.log
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Last edit: October 14, 2011, 02:00:27 AM by BkkCoins
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Doh! Your post reminded me that the shell was trying to expand the glob and cgminer couldn't take it. So a much simpler patch is to make the ccan opt code allow multiple args and then the shell expands as normal. Same result, barring any bugs.

So this small patch is simpler than the first and gives the same feature.
This works for me with no quotes. And I expect it would work on Windows now but untested.

cgminer -c /etc/cgminer/* 2>/var/log/cgminer.log

but it's not tested any further and there could be a bug in my patch. Also a better idea would be to add a OPT_MULTIARG feature to enable this ability but I didn't take it that far though it may make sense to suggest it to the author of ccan opt.

Again, for those who like this feature, a pastebin, apply in cgminer ccan/opt directory and it allows options to have multiple args.

http://pastebin.com/qnWW0vdv
(don't apply both patches only this one or other one, this one being better)
(the downside being the shell glob doesn't seem to be in alphabetic order)

Of course, another idea would be to have a default path built in to cgminer that will load configs without any -c needed. That would be fairly simple. Maybe I should write a patch for that?

Then a "Save Config" option in the settings menu to write out a series of pool conf files would mean no need to manually write these. Just an idea as making the conf files was the hardest part of getting cgminer going for me.

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October 14, 2011, 02:07:08 AM
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Accepting multiple config files and making it easier to do so is not a long term solution. cgminer needs a unified single config file for multiple options but someone needs to write a parser for it to do so. Unfortunately that someone is not going to be me, and lots of people have promised but not delivered (alas as I expected would happen). So for the time being it will remain as is I'm afraid.

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October 14, 2011, 02:08:29 AM
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Of course, another idea would be to have a default path built in to cgminer that will load configs without any -c needed. That would be fairly simple. Maybe I should write a patch for that?

Then a "Save Config" option in the settings menu to write out a series of pool conf files would mean no need to manually write these. Just an idea as making the conf files was the hardest part of getting cgminer going for me.

Yes great idea in the interim it would be nice to see a working example of a config file with those options in it for the life of me Google is no help on finding and the 16 or so page I am into this thread produces no such beast either.

+1.  Can someone post some example config files using pastebin or even the forum code tag.  I tried making config file but cgminer didn't like something I was doing and just gave up going back to commandline with 30+ parameters.
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October 14, 2011, 02:20:29 AM
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Of course, another idea would be to have a default path built in to cgminer that will load configs without any -c needed. That would be fairly simple. Maybe I should write a patch for that?

Then a "Save Config" option in the settings menu to write out a series of pool conf files would mean no need to manually write these. Just an idea as making the conf files was the hardest part of getting cgminer going for me.

Yes great idea in the interim it would be nice to see a working example of a config file with those options in it for the life of me Google is no help on finding and the 16 or so page I am into this thread produces no such beast either.
There is an example one with cgminer but it doesn't have too much inside. The trick is that for multiple pools you need multiple configs, one for each pool. I've made a pastebin of my config as an example here...

http://pastebin.com/bKkD1NXv

Beware - the no arg options need true not "true" to work properly.
Also, leave no extra "," on last option. Both these tripped me up at first.

@ckolivas,
I agree. I'll have a look at the config code and see if I can do it... no promises. Smiley

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BTW thanks Con you have nice little program here but then I would not expect anything less as I have for many years used your patches for the linux kernel which always worked great as well thanks for them too.

I KNEW the name sounded very familiar all along but I couldn't for the life of me remember exactly what was... Con is the doctor guy who did work on i/o schedulers in the kernel! How could I forget!
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October 14, 2011, 03:09:16 AM
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BTW thanks Con you have nice little program here but then I would not expect anything less as I have for many years used your patches for the linux kernel which always worked great as well thanks for them too.

I KNEW the name sounded very familiar all along but I couldn't for the life of me remember exactly what was... Con is the doctor guy who did work on i/o schedulers in the kernel! How could I forget!
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October 14, 2011, 03:17:00 AM
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Accepting multiple config files and making it easier to do so is not a long term solution. cgminer needs a unified single config file for multiple options but someone needs to write a parser for it to do so. Unfortunately that someone is not going to be me, and lots of people have promised but not delivered (alas as I expected would happen). So for the time being it will remain as is I'm afraid.

I have done a small patch that adds the ability to handle an array of option values in the config. This allows using multiple pools in one config. This was the simplest way for now that still achieves the desired feature without re-writing much code.

Here is pastebin patch. I tested it here with 4 pools on Ubuntu.

http://pastebin.com/1FrGeLSZ

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"url" : ["http://server2.arsbitcoin.com:8344",
         "http://arsbitcoin.com:8344",
         "http://btcguild.com:8332",
         "http://pool.rfcpool.com:8332"],
"user" : ["Dauphin.cg",
          "Dauphin.cg",
          "BkkCoiner_cg",
          "PlasmaToy_cg"],
"pass" : ["pass","pass","XXXX","XXXX"],

"intensity" : "8",
"gpu-fan" : "50-85",
"gpu-memclock" : "300",
"gpu-engine" : "1000,970",
"gpu-vddc" : "1.163,1.175",
"auto-fan" : true,
"temp-target" : "70"
}

Maybe I'll look at auto generating one from the settings menu. No promises.

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October 14, 2011, 03:21:36 AM
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Very good, thanks! Keep that up and I'll happily include the patches. Send them to me instead though, my email's in the readme. I'll let you tinker some more, as you're on a roll Smiley

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Accepting multiple config files and making it easier to do so is not a long term solution. cgminer needs a unified single config file for multiple options but someone needs to write a parser for it to do so. Unfortunately that someone is not going to be me, and lots of people have promised but not delivered (alas as I expected would happen). So for the time being it will remain as is I'm afraid.

I have done a small patch that adds the ability to handle an array of option values in the config. This allows using multiple pools in one config. This was the simplest way for now that still achieves the desired feature without re-writing much code.

Here is pastebin patch. I tested it here with 4 pools on Ubuntu.

http://pastebin.com/1FrGeLSZ

Example config file:
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"url" : ["http://server2.arsbitcoin.com:8344",
         "http://arsbitcoin.com:8344",
         "http://btcguild.com:8332",
         "http://pool.rfcpool.com:8332"],
"user" : ["Dauphin.cg",
          "Dauphin.cg",
          "BkkCoiner_cg",
          "PlasmaToy_cg"],
"pass" : ["pass","pass","XXXX","XXXX"],

"intensity" : "8",
"gpu-fan" : "50-85",
"gpu-memclock" : "300",
"gpu-engine" : "1000,970",
"gpu-vddc" : "1.163,1.175",
"auto-fan" : true,
"temp-target" : "70"
}

Maybe I'll look at auto generating one from the settings menu. No promises.
Hmm no idea what anyone else thinks, but I think it should be an array of pool details like:
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"pools" : [
{ "http://server2.arsbitcoin.com:8344" : "user:pass" },
{ "http://arsbitcoin.com:8344" : "user:pass" }
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I would take either but I agree that structure seems more manageable.
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