K1773R
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October 29, 2012, 12:49:13 AM |
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Can anyone put my anxiety at ease here. I dl the new cpuminer and this is what came up after the 4th hash  I trust spybot and it never failed me to date. I know some things can be accidentally added to DB's However this has never come up with these miners. This one is the first miner program that has done this. check the MD5 from the github dowload and compare it with urs, if its the same then its a false positive, otherwise u maybe got a problem  I really don't know how to check MD5 from github. I'm pretty sure I'm safe. download the file, check it? aint that hard. DL it with https too |
[GPG Public Key]BTC/DVC/TRC/FRC: 1 K1773RbXRZVRQSSXe9N6N2MUFERvrdu6y ANC/XPM A K1773RTmRKtvbKBCrUu95UQg5iegrqyeA NMC: N K1773Rzv8b4ugmCgX789PbjewA9fL9Dy1 LTC: L Ki773RBuPepQH8E6Zb1ponoCvgbU7hHmd EMC: E K1773RxUes1HX1YAGMZ1xVYBBRUCqfDoF BQC: b K1773R1APJz4yTgRkmdKQhjhiMyQpJgfN
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Simran
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October 29, 2012, 03:26:11 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
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October 29, 2012, 06:16:41 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
Anyways I deleted it. Everyone do as you please.... |
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Smoovious
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October 29, 2012, 06:20:31 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
Anyways I deleted it. Everyone do as you please.... As long as you downloaded it through the link at the top of the thread, yer fine... It has been included with malware so the botnet operator can use other people's computers to mine. That's why cgminer and minerd got tagged by the virus scanners. It isn't a virus itself, it was just the payload, but the scanner companies don't really care about that. They aren't as thorough as they used to be. >shrugs< -- Smoov |
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October 29, 2012, 06:25:29 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
Anyways I deleted it. Everyone do as you please.... As long as you downloaded it through the link at the top of the thread, yer fine... It has been included with malware so the botnet operator can use other people's computers to mine. That's why cgminer and minerd got tagged by the virus scanners. It isn't a virus itself, it was just the payload, but the scanner companies don't really care about that. They aren't as thorough as they used to be. >shrugs< -- Smoov Ok I'm confused here. I am to allow someone access to my computer's hashing power? Am I missing something here? is this how this pool works? *scratching head |
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K1773R
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October 29, 2012, 06:27:22 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
Anyways I deleted it. Everyone do as you please.... As long as you downloaded it through the link at the top of the thread, yer fine... It has been included with malware so the botnet operator can use other people's computers to mine. That's why cgminer and minerd got tagged by the virus scanners. It isn't a virus itself, it was just the payload, but the scanner companies don't really care about that. They aren't as thorough as they used to be. >shrugs< -- Smoov Ok I'm confused here. I am to allow someone access to my computer's hashing power? Am I missing something here? is this how this pool works? *scratching head no you do miss understand him. Botnet Operators are deploying this binary among their victims/zombies to mine BTC for them, therefore the companys to flag it as "virus". |
[GPG Public Key]BTC/DVC/TRC/FRC: 1 K1773RbXRZVRQSSXe9N6N2MUFERvrdu6y ANC/XPM A K1773RTmRKtvbKBCrUu95UQg5iegrqyeA NMC: N K1773Rzv8b4ugmCgX789PbjewA9fL9Dy1 LTC: L Ki773RBuPepQH8E6Zb1ponoCvgbU7hHmd EMC: E K1773RxUes1HX1YAGMZ1xVYBBRUCqfDoF BQC: b K1773R1APJz4yTgRkmdKQhjhiMyQpJgfN
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Smoovious
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October 29, 2012, 06:32:48 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
Anyways I deleted it. Everyone do as you please.... As long as you downloaded it through the link at the top of the thread, yer fine... It has been included with malware so the botnet operator can use other people's computers to mine. That's why cgminer and minerd got tagged by the virus scanners. It isn't a virus itself, it was just the payload, but the scanner companies don't really care about that. They aren't as thorough as they used to be. >shrugs< -- Smoov Ok I'm confused here. I am to allow someone access to my computer's hashing power? Am I missing something here? is this how this pool works? *scratching head Yes, you're missing something... All the program is, is the mining program... there is nothing virus-like about it. You install it, and point it at your own daemon, or at the pool you're using, to do your mining with. What the malware peddlers were doing, was using their trojans, to install that program on other people's computers, with their own credentials, in effect, stealing other people's electricity to mine for themselves using the victim's computers. The mining programs themselves, are not malware. You are not allowing access to your computer through them. The malware peddlers, were using their own malware, to install the miner programs on other people's computers, turning their computers into miners without their permission. That's all. The alerts are just false positives by lazy people at the scanner companies who can't be bothered to honestly investigate the miner program. They just find the trojan programs, and flag everything they find inside as a virus, even if it isn't. This isn't anything new, I've had other programs I use end up as collateral damage like that too. As long as you download your copy of the miner directly from the official source, you're fine. -- Smoov |
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October 29, 2012, 06:34:54 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
Anyways I deleted it. Everyone do as you please.... As long as you downloaded it through the link at the top of the thread, yer fine... It has been included with malware so the botnet operator can use other people's computers to mine. That's why cgminer and minerd got tagged by the virus scanners. It isn't a virus itself, it was just the payload, but the scanner companies don't really care about that. They aren't as thorough as they used to be. >shrugs< -- Smoov Ok I'm confused here. I am to allow someone access to my computer's hashing power? Am I missing something here? is this how this pool works? *scratching head no you do miss understand him. Botnet Operators are deploying this binary among their victims/zombies to mine BTC for them, therefore the companys to flag it as "virus". What I was confused about was how accepted this practice was on this forum. I thought something like this would be frowned down upon or at-least warning others not suspecting this welcomed or praised. But hey no problem as newbies we pickup quickly and learn the rules. |
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Smoovious
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October 29, 2012, 06:39:17 AM |
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What I was confused about was how accepted this practice was on this forum. I thought something like this would be frowned down upon or at-least warning others not suspecting this welcomed or praised.
But hey no problem as newbies we pickup quickly and learn the rules. We're just giving you the facts without (much) judgement. With tech projects like these, particularly revolving around crypto, you have to expect a mix of white-/grey-/black-hat programmers. Value-judgements you can make for yourself, don't need us to do that for ya. -- Smoov |
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October 29, 2012, 06:41:50 AM |
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gaise pls, it's just botnets.
Anyways I deleted it. Everyone do as you please.... As long as you downloaded it through the link at the top of the thread, yer fine... It has been included with malware so the botnet operator can use other people's computers to mine. That's why cgminer and minerd got tagged by the virus scanners. It isn't a virus itself, it was just the payload, but the scanner companies don't really care about that. They aren't as thorough as they used to be. >shrugs< -- Smoov Ok I'm confused here. I am to allow someone access to my computer's hashing power? Am I missing something here? is this how this pool works? *scratching head Yes, you're missing something... All the program is, is the mining program... there is nothing virus-like about it. You install it, and point it at your own daemon, or at the pool you're using, to do your mining with. What the malware peddlers were doing, was using their trojans, to install that program on other people's computers, with their own credentials, in effect, stealing other people's electricity to mine for themselves using the victim's computers. The mining programs themselves, are not malware. You are not allowing access to your computer through them. The malware peddlers, were using their own malware, to install the miner programs on other people's computers, turning their computers into miners without their permission. That's all. The alerts are just false positives by lazy people at the scanner companies who can't be bothered to honestly investigate the miner program. They just find the trojan programs, and flag everything they find inside as a virus, even if it isn't. This isn't anything new, I've had other programs I use end up as collateral damage like that too. As long as you download your copy of the miner directly from the official source, you're fine. -- Smoov Ok yes I understand that. However I downloaded that from the first post located here in this thread. Is that acceptable by everyone here? |
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Smoovious
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October 29, 2012, 06:43:43 AM |
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Ok yes I understand that. However I downloaded that from the first post located here in this thread. Is that acceptable by everyone here? Yep... yer fine... this is an official thread for it. The one who started the thread is part of the project. -- Smoov |
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October 29, 2012, 06:48:47 AM |
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lol
Cheer
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chrissyboomboom
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November 08, 2012, 05:55:04 AM |
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Right it seems to be working... Though I have 2 concerns. 1. I'm mining incredibly slow (6.5kh/s) but like I only got 0.05 litecoin after like 10h of mining. 2. It keeps showing up with "LONGPOLL detected new block".. It would go through allot of these before I get a "accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 6.82 khash/s (yay!!!)" message. Is this normal? Surely it's inefficient? |
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Smoovious
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November 08, 2012, 06:07:14 AM |
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Right it seems to be working... Though I have 2 concerns. 1. I'm mining incredibly slow (6.5kh/s) but like I only got 0.05 litecoin after like 10h of mining. 2. It keeps showing up with "LONGPOLL detected new block".. It would go through allot of these before I get a "accepted: 1/1 (100.00%), 6.82 khash/s (yay!!!)" message. Is this normal? Surely it's inefficient? More efficient than not notifying you of a new block, and the new work to go along with it, so you don't waste cycles working on now-invalid work... and yes, very normal... -- Smoov |
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chrissyboomboom
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November 08, 2012, 06:41:28 AM |
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But surely that means I was doing wasted calculations? Can't we start more 'fresh' blocks so it's less like for pool members to calculate on the same blocks - and hence we have a 'collision'?
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Smoovious
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November 08, 2012, 06:47:01 AM |
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But surely that means I was doing wasted calculations? Can't we start more 'fresh' blocks so it's less like for pool members to calculate on the same blocks - and hence we have a 'collision'?
You are starting more fresh blocks... that's why the fresh longpoll messages to start new, fresh work... Every block has to build on top of the previous one, so when a block is found elsewhere on the network, and is distributed to the network, everyone mining starts new work for a new block to place on top of it... and when yours gets sent that new block, then your miner is told of the new block's existence, and then your miner discards the rest of the work it was trying to solve the block that was just found, and begins work on the new yet-to-be-found block. This is what the longpoll message is telling you. Fresh block, fresh work... -- Smoov |
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chrissyboomboom
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November 08, 2012, 07:04:08 AM |
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What stops me/someone from only joining the pool when it's near the end of a block then?
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Smoovious
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November 08, 2012, 07:27:20 AM |
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What stops me/someone from only joining the pool when it's near the end of a block then?
Nothing... you can't predict the 'end' of a block in the first place... When you're mining, you're brute-forcing a hash which solves the block at a certain difficulty. It could take 1 second for you to find a hash that meets the criteria, it could take you months. You're just trying as many hashes as you can until one of them is good (measured in hashes-per-second, which is how you're judging your speed) -- Smoov |
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November 17, 2012, 12:39:22 AM |
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is anybody else haveing a problem with avast tagging cpuminers as a trojan? ufasoft is also being tagged
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