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January 30, 2015, 05:29:37 PM
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IS anyone familiar with which chain # relates to which set of asics physically inside the unit?

ie. where is chain 1 physically in the unit?  etc for 2,3,4?
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January 30, 2015, 05:33:38 PM
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IS anyone familiar with which chain # relates to which set of asics physically inside the unit?

ie. where is chain 1 physically in the unit?  etc for 2,3,4?

2    1
          PSU
4    3

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January 30, 2015, 05:39:27 PM
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IS anyone familiar with which chain # relates to which set of asics physically inside the unit?

ie. where is chain 1 physically in the unit?  etc for 2,3,4?

2    1
          PSU
4    3

As looking from front or back?

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January 30, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
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IS anyone familiar with which chain # relates to which set of asics physically inside the unit?

ie. where is chain 1 physically in the unit?  etc for 2,3,4?

2    1
          PSU
4    3

As looking from front or back?

Front...... The PSU is on the right no? If it's from the back it will be

       1      2
PSU
       3      4

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January 30, 2015, 06:45:06 PM
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The "search" is disabled right now.  Otherwise, I'm sure I could find the answer to this question:

One of my fan blades on the back of an S4 popped out of its socket.  The metal axel is still connected to the fan blade(s) [propeller; whatever you want to call it].  The fan's axel simply came out on it's own from the housing and rested against one of the blades (circuit boards).  I took off the lid to see it like this.  I put the axel back in the hole in the center of the housing and pressed but it seem to not want to stay in there.  Will it click if I press harder?  I don't want to break the thing.

Will I need to buy another fan?  If so, what fan do I get?  Since I bought my S4's the end of November, is it still under warranty to get a replacement fan from BITMAIN?

There's no saving that, its how these fans usually fail unfortunately. If you're out of warranty, the cheapest option is to pick up an SP120 fan, twin pack is cheaper. [With affiliate link] [Without affiliate link].

If it was a front fan (intake) fan that failed you can swap it out directly. If it was a rear fan, swap one of the working front fans to the rear and put this fan in the front. The rear fans do most of the work so the front ones can be run quite a bit slower without any cooling impact.

I sent yoshi an email.  I'm about to send bitmainwarranty a PM shortly.  Here are some pictures.  [I dusted the thing out before putting it back to mining.  The temps are okay still; but higher than the other S4's].

Please only use one contact method, if you've already contacted Yoshi then let him sort it. In the future though, contact BitmainWarranty as its their sole job to help customers, so usually act quicker.

Yes, it was a rear fan.  It is still under warranty.  All of my S4's were shipped December 1, 2014.  I contacted Yoshi and BitmainWarranty.  I remember in the future to only contact one of them... BitmainWarranty.

Thanks again for the info!!!

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January 31, 2015, 04:29:48 PM
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Did anyone manage to lower the sound of the mienr like many did with the S5 ??

I got a deal on a S4 but I can get a high dba.  Grin

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January 31, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
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Did anyone manage to lower the sound of the mienr like many did with the S5 ??

I got a deal on a S4 but I can get a high dba.  Grin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940250.0
tried it works, but u will have higher temps
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February 01, 2015, 07:27:51 PM
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Anyone on from Bitmain warranty?  Please review ticket ID: 813.  Bad PSU under warranty..  Thanks!
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February 02, 2015, 12:14:22 AM
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Anyone on from Bitmain warranty?  Please review ticket ID: 813.  Bad PSU under warranty..  Thanks!

Please be patient, they'll get to your ticket soon. It is a Sunday after all.

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February 02, 2015, 07:24:04 AM
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In case nobody noticed, there is a new firmware for S4. Release date 29th Jan.

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February 02, 2015, 10:00:49 AM
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In case nobody noticed, there is a new firmware for S4. Release date 29th Jan.

Anyone try it yet?

M

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February 02, 2015, 10:03:05 AM
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In case nobody noticed, there is a new firmware for S4. Release date 29th Jan.

Anyone try it yet?

M

Yup. Running it now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940250.msg10333082#msg10333082

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February 02, 2015, 10:07:02 AM
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K.  Maybe post your results after a few days?  I'm hesitant to upgrade mine remotely in case something goes awry.

Thanks.

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February 02, 2015, 10:36:25 AM
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K.  Maybe post your results after a few days?  I'm hesitant to upgrade mine remotely in case something goes awry.

Thanks.

M

Will do.

And you're not going to believe what I found

https://github.com/bitmaintech/cgminer/commit/4ecf89341657ea7efecdf588586ca3f068ab17ab

--bitmain-homemode slows the fan down!!!!! I just tried it with the latest firmware. Edit cgminer.sh to include that option and .. guess what.. temp went up, fan speed down! Smiley

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February 02, 2015, 10:40:58 AM
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So it seems Bitmain has been quietly listening to what is being said here and making changes but not announcing. I wonder why...

Edit: If only they make the options available in the GUI.. that would be really nice.

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February 02, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
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So it seems Bitmain has been quietly listening to what is being said here and making changes but not announcing. I wonder why...

Edit: If only they make the options available in the GUI.. that would be really nice.

If its in the code then it will be eventually. If they're happy with the testing results then there'll probably be pretty quick firmware revisions.

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February 02, 2015, 11:42:30 PM
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Installed the new firmware on a few of my S4s, very glad to see an update for them from Bitmain.

Performance on p2pool is completely messed up, though. 225mhz hashes at 1950gh/s instead of 2225gh/s with the previous firmware. Strangely enough 212 and 218mhz works much better than 225, reaching about 2180gh/s at 218mhz.

Testing on ckpool right now, seems to work perfectly at 225mhz. Anyone know what's going on?
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Last edit: February 03, 2015, 01:38:20 AM by sloopy
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The "search" is disabled right now.  Otherwise, I'm sure I could find the answer to this question:

One of my fan blades on the back of an S4 popped out of its socket.  The metal axel is still connected to the fan blade(s) [propeller; whatever you want to call it].  The fan's axel simply came out on it's own from the housing and rested against one of the blades (circuit boards).  I took off the lid to see it like this.  I put the axel back in the hole in the center of the housing and pressed but it seem to not want to stay in there.  Will it click if I press harder?  I don't want to break the thing.

Will I need to buy another fan?  If so, what fan do I get?  Since I bought my S4's the end of November, is it still under warranty to get a replacement fan from BITMAIN?

There's no saving that, its how these fans usually fail unfortunately. If you're out of warranty, the cheapest option is to pick up an SP120 fan, twin pack is cheaper. [With affiliate link] [Without affiliate link].

If it was a front fan (intake) fan that failed you can swap it out directly. If it was a rear fan, swap one of the working front fans to the rear and put this fan in the front. The rear fans do most of the work so the front ones can be run quite a bit slower without any cooling impact.

I sent yoshi an email.  I'm about to send bitmainwarranty a PM shortly.  Here are some pictures.  [I dusted the thing out before putting it back to mining.  The temps are okay still; but higher than the other S4's].

Please only use one contact method, if you've already contacted Yoshi then let him sort it. In the future though, contact BitmainWarranty as its their sole job to help customers, so usually act quicker.

I PMd Dogie about this and wanted to share.
There is a PWM version of these fans. The price is pretty hefty for a 2 pack, but if they do the job I want I'm happy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C249QNE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
No affiliate link there, but if you want to use Dogie's go down and click his then put the text Corsair Air Series SP120 PWM High Performance Edition - Twin Pack (CO-9050014-WW)
These are the SP model, but my understanding is the AF are heavier and push more, although I don't remember if it is volume or pressure.

If you are interested in how these turn out let me know and I will report back via PM.
Thanks for the recommendation on the first non PWM model Dogie.
I still don't understand why you swap one from the front to the back though Smiley



Update on my S4 unit on the 3rd PSU:
This PSU has been running for 5 days. I do not want to jinx it but if I make 8 we are celebrating.
I have it at stock which is where I plan to keep it while warranty is active.
I also will never overclock it with the stock PSU.
There are several different reasons for the failures. I was told by someone reliable, not sure if itis already discussed at length on the forum, but that the PCI connections to the hash boards were bad. I'm not sure if they were underrated or what but they got away from those for the ring terminals. They should all be ring terminals now.
1400 watts is just barely enough to pump this baby at 2T. It was made for a good 240 line... in my opinion.
If you account for the tolerance of the PSU... well it is no wonder.

I did not do my homework on several key points in purchasing this miner, but I am learning:
1. Research BTC talk to the gills prior to purchasing any miner
2. If a PSU is included run the other way.
3. Make sure of who handles your warranty. Some resellers must cover the warranty. Be careful!!!
4. Talk with others who have the same miner you are getting who have went through problems. How were they handled? Everyone has problems, how good is the system you have in place? How much do the people who are answering the phone talking to your customers care about the call / e-mail?

I do thank BITMAIN for shipping me the control boards for the S3+s. They did not have to do so, and shipped those 2nd day air rather than ground. I would have paid and offered but they declined. It was a good gesture and not once has it been thrown at me that they did so. I respect such.

The overall lack of communication was the entire issue. If they had simply sent an e-mail, or picked upt he phone to make a 30 second call it would have made all the difference to me, the customer, int he entire ordeal. Had that occurred I would have felt like I was treated better than average since they included the S3 reflashed boards. (They actually sent me different boards. They may be new, they were in new static bags, August firmware on both).
I would not have been please to hear the machine would be without a stock PSU for another week, but if I was told that up front I would not have been so upset over hearing nothing. You never know when that can go on, and on, the not hearing anything.

The system is hashing as correctly as any other 10-16 unit. I appreciate whoever did process this warranty and have it sent.

Transaction fees go to the pools and the pools decide to pay them to the miners. Anything else, including off-chain solutions are stealing and not the way Bitcoin was intended to function.
Make the block size set by the pool. Pool = miners and they get the choice.
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February 03, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
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Installed the new firmware on a few of my S4s, very glad to see an update for them from Bitmain.

Performance on p2pool is completely messed up, though. 225mhz hashes at 1950gh/s instead of 2225gh/s with the previous firmware. Strangely enough 212 and 218mhz works much better than 225, reaching about 2180gh/s at 218mhz.

Testing on ckpool right now, seems to work perfectly at 225mhz. Anyone know what's going on?

I'm running the new firmware on my 4 S4s @ 200mhz/0700v. HR on S4 GUI is reporting as ~2.1-2.3TH/s (5 seconds) ~1.98-1.99TH/s (Avg) and p2pool reporting HR ~8-8.5TH/s Avg HR ~7.6TH/s for 4 S4s. DOA ~2-3%

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February 03, 2015, 01:57:05 PM
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Installed the new firmware on 3 units so far.... extranonce is working with westhash from the looks of it
Im wondering why there is no load balance or failover options like the S3 has... with 1/4 of the power it makes no sense to have load balancing for 478GH but not for a 2TH machine...C1 needs some love too... nice to see Bitmain is listening
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