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January 15, 2016, 09:01:39 AM
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Nothing wrong with worship of idols, at least they're more tangible than an invisble, non-existant being that didn't create the world.

Tangible proof our planet was created:



BTW you spelled invisible and existent wrong, it's advisable to ensure your spelling is correct when trying to prove how smart you are when parroting the garbage science you've been force fed and believe with such absolute faith and conviction you'd never dare to question it. Wink
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January 15, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
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BitNow, how do you respond?

Respond to what?

I and user BADecker are on the same side: side of Faith (the law of God).

I repeat my question:

Faith: does it exist without God?

As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith?


Thank You.


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January 15, 2016, 09:23:55 AM
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Tangible proof our planet was created:



That's not tangible, that's a photograph.

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January 15, 2016, 09:25:24 AM
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BitNow, how do you respond?

Respond to what?

The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:




BitNow, you say:

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.



<snip>
In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:
Quote
idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
    the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

BitNow, how do you respond?


So, BitNow, how do you respond?

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January 15, 2016, 09:30:13 AM
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The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again:




BitNow, you say:

Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct.



<snip>
In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol:
Quote
idol
[ahyd-l]

noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.

(my bold, for emphasis)

BitNow, how do you respond?


So, BitNow, how do you respond?

Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


Best regards.


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January 15, 2016, 09:32:22 AM
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Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ?

Because they don't understand proper English.

What is Faith to you?


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January 15, 2016, 09:45:43 AM
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January 15, 2016, 09:47:09 AM
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Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me simplify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?

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January 15, 2016, 09:48:30 AM
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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
"Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
and humility comes before honor.
"
- Pro 15:33

Wisdom leads to science.

Do you hate Science?



Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?


There is no difference in there, neither a question.


Best regards.


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January 15, 2016, 09:53:01 AM
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Responding to a response?

That is not semantically correct.

Thank You.


Best regards.

Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me clarify for you:

1. You, BitNow, think that

Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.

2. BADecker believes that an idol is:

1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
    an image of a deity other than God.
   the deity itself.

You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why?


There is no difference in there, neither a question.


There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.


Best regards.


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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.


Best regards.

So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?

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So, you don't or cant answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?

I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

Believe God's words not mens.


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January 15, 2016, 09:56:55 AM
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Faith to me is knowing that whatever I do, Zeus is watching over me... One day through keen worship of the one true god ZEUS I hope to get to Valhalla.

You think Zeus is watching over you because you are wise.
"Wisdom’s instruction is to fear the Lord,
and humility comes before honor.
"
- Pro 15:33

Wisdom leads to science.

Do you hate Science?



Of course I dont hate science, Zeus used science to create the big bang 6 billion years ago, and he continues to use it daily for all manner of events.

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January 15, 2016, 10:01:03 AM
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There is a significant difference. I understand English might not be your first language, so I'll make it even more simple:

BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

You should believe God not men.

Thank You.


Best regards.

So, you can't or don't want to answer my question? I wonder if that's because you don't want to admit you were wrong, or don't want to upset BADecker?


I wonder why are you stick so much to people's words: I'm not a lady... are you gay?

Best regards.

I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?




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January 15, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
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I thought religions were a way for trolls to get together and put normal people in baskets, tape them up and send them to Moldova?  Am I wrong?

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January 15, 2016, 10:10:43 AM
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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


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January 15, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?


So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?

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January 15, 2016, 10:20:36 AM
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Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


Believe regarding to what?

I'm an engineer not a priest.

Thank You.


Best regards.


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I don't even pretend to understand that last comment, but all I'm doing it attempting to have a debate with you. All you're doing is avoiding making sense. I have to wonder why? Are you a secret atheist trying to make religious people look disingenuous?



So: you are gay, and you avoid the question when asked directly. Good to know.

So: you just resort to what you think is name-calling when you feel threatened, when I've been nothing but polite and patient with you? Good to know.

Me and user BADecker are saying the same thing: atheism is idolatry, what we disagree is the punishment.
For me: atheism is a capital sin (punishment is death according to the Golden Calf episode Ex 32:4)
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

And probably even more than that: we agree that atheism is a capital sin.

We disagree on the application of this law:
For me: we should kill them all and leave the problem aside.
For user BADecker: he want to save all the atheist in the world...

Thank You.


Best regards.


I'm not even talking about atheism.

You are not talking about atheism: so what are you talking about?

Idolatry of course. You were the one who brought it up. If you have already forgotten, just look a few pages back.

My question again: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't. Why should I believe you and not BADecker?


Believe regarding to what?

I'm an engineer not a priest.


In regard to this: BADecker believes religions can worship idols, you believe they can't, and why do you think you are correct and not BADecker?


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