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August 15, 2019, 07:09:54 PM Last edit: August 16, 2019, 02:32:49 PM by NefariousFool |
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Hello guys,
I am experiencing an issue.
I made a new rig with 6 Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX570 8G OC, the memory installed on the cards is Hynix. They are not bios mod since I wanted to use -strap command directly in Claymore's miner. I am using Claymore v14.7 miner, with driver 19.4.3 since it is with this driver that Claymore has most tests been performed.
Compute mode ON, with overclocking, I uninstalled and installed the driver in claymore to be able to use -strap command. And I am mining at 22.5 MHs no matter what -strap I am using. The strap is applied successfuly : "strap "POL8H1" is applied successfully" on each card.
but the hashrate just refuses to change ! (-rxboost does actually work and allow me to reach 24MHs)
Anyone can help me to get -strap working on my rig and to reach 30+ Mhs per card, maybe by also changing the OC settings?
I will give to the one who provides me with a solution 100$ worth of Ethereum Classic.
try other modes of strap 1-6 and rxboost 50 for example I tried all -strap (from 1 to 6) they all applied successfully but no changes. Rxboost is not an issue (I tried all -rxboost from 1 to 100) they all work fine. My question is how to get -strap working properly? I mean I don’t need to bios mod the cards if -strap works fine because it will apply the new timing memory on the fly in Windows. well first off the fact they are telling you to mod will only work that is out right incorrect with Windows OR Linux. Another thing is the Rxboost goes from 1 to 30 there is no 50 rxboost. so setting it to 50 will not do a thing. For RX570's with Hynix in Windows environment - i suggest running this -eres 1 -mode 2 -asm 2 -rxboost 21 -POL8H1@2200 -mvddc 875 -cclock 1200 -cvddc 880 -lidag 2 If 2200 doesn't give you a problems try pushing it to 2204 if that's solid try 2215 .. again if that's good try 2235 then 2250.... 2250 is the max you can push a 570 within claymore for the memory speed. If the settings give you errors take it down to 2190, then try 2150... at worst 2100. However with a factory bios you should be able to achieve 2250 with claymore. If you can get 2250 to hold solid and the cclock to hold 1250 @900 you'll be pushing your card to 33.6 to 34.3 depending on your silicone lottery. You may need to bump the mvddc and cvddc to 900 for the extra power on the max settings as well. Keep in mind, when you have multiple cards int he rigs, I've seen having to push one or 2 cards down to 2100 or even 2000 to keep the rig stable but it'll still hold a 32 to 33 Mhs rate with the other cards. Its got to be an issue with how AMD is handling memory timings. If you want to try reducing the crashing by slowing down the loading of each dag you can do a -gser 2 - which will load each card 2 seconds apart this also helps with stability. Now i only use wattman to set the fans, but you can use tt for target temp and fanmax and fanmin to control the fan speed and max temp if you don't want to use wattman or afterburner. By setting all that in the command string you will NOT need afterburner OR wattman except to control the fan speeds if you want to provide a range of speeds. Best of luck!!! @Claymore on the new 14.8 can you possibly add temp levels? I'd really like to get away from having to use a 3rd party tool. If we can do a temp 1, temp 2 temp 3 ets on temperature levels and fan speeds that would be baller!
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The problem is amd driver, you can mine a 30mhs in linux with claymore 14.7 and hive os
give us a screenshot for r9 390 in ETC/ETH with 30M/h He is actually correct, and I didn't know it either but apparently with the R9 290/390 you can mine at 30MH/s again if you do it with certain drivers, OS, and mining software. I had a similiar issue where I used to mine 30MH/s with my R9 290 since 2016 and in 2018 it started to slow down to like 20MH/s before I shut it off. I assumed it was some DAG thrashing bug and just unplugged it. However there is another thread going on in this category of mining where people were able to mine with their Hawaii GPUs again at 30MHs. However you can't do it on Windows. So search the forums if you need instructions on how to do it. But keep in mind the GPU will use at least 200 Watts of power. Could you share the link of the other thread? I didnt find it, thanks
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August 15, 2019, 08:37:23 PM |
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Hello guys,
I am experiencing an issue.
I made a new rig with 6 Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX570 8G OC, the memory installed on the cards is Hynix. They are not bios mod since I wanted to use -strap command directly in Claymore's miner. I am using Claymore v14.7 miner, with driver 19.4.3 since it is with this driver that Claymore has most tests been performed.
Compute mode ON, with overclocking, I uninstalled and installed the driver in claymore to be able to use -strap command. And I am mining at 22.5 MHs no matter what -strap I am using. The strap is applied successfuly : "strap "POL8H1" is applied successfully" on each card.
but the hashrate just refuses to change ! (-rxboost does actually work and allow me to reach 24MHs)
Anyone can help me to get -strap working on my rig and to reach 30+ Mhs per card, maybe by also changing the OC settings?
I will give to the one who provides me with a solution 100$ worth of Ethereum Classic.
I'd suggest running @eliovp's AMDMemTweak tool to see if the strap settings are getting the modifications. Run it without -strap first and note some of the values (tCL, etc) and then run it with -strap to see if indeed they are being applied. There a thread in Mining (Altcoins) just for this program and the executable is up on GitHub.
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August 16, 2019, 05:04:44 AM |
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....... For RX570's with Hynix in Windows environment - i suggest running this
-eres 1 -mode 2 -asm 2 -rxboost 21 -POL8H1@2200 -mvddc 875 -cclock 1200 -mvddc 880 -lidag 2 .........
what?
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August 16, 2019, 08:45:54 AM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
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August 16, 2019, 10:20:29 AM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
you should not expect to see proper power consumption numbers from software especially on AMD.
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August 16, 2019, 11:01:11 AM |
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Hello guys,
I am experiencing an issue.
I made a new rig with 6 Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX570 8G OC, the memory installed on the cards is Hynix. They are not bios mod since I wanted to use -strap command directly in Claymore's miner. I am using Claymore v14.7 miner, with driver 19.4.3 since it is with this driver that Claymore has most tests been performed.
Compute mode ON, with overclocking, I uninstalled and installed the driver in claymore to be able to use -strap command. And I am mining at 22.5 MHs no matter what -strap I am using. The strap is applied successfuly : "strap "POL8H1" is applied successfully" on each card.
but the hashrate just refuses to change ! (-rxboost does actually work and allow me to reach 24MHs)
Anyone can help me to get -strap working on my rig and to reach 30+ Mhs per card, maybe by also changing the OC settings?
I will give to the one who provides me with a solution 100$ worth of Ethereum Classic.
I'd suggest running @eliovp's AMDMemTweak tool to see if the strap settings are getting the modifications. Run it without -strap first and note some of the values (tCL, etc) and then run it with -strap to see if indeed they are being applied. There a thread in Mining (Altcoins) just for this program and the executable is up on GitHub. I did it and with -strap 1 I am getting only 20.2MHs per card.. here is the screenshot without applying any -strap : https://www.noelshack.com/2019-33-5-1565953173-captureamdmemorytweak.pnghere is the screenshot after applying -strap 1 : https://www.noelshack.com/2019-33-5-1565953247-captureavecstrap1.pngWhat's wrong ??
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August 16, 2019, 11:08:23 AM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
you should not expect to see proper power consumption numbers from software especially on AMD. sorry, didin said cards type - rx 470 4g. Isnt it a little to big power consumption for only 4 cards and other suff ? i suppose 4*90=360+60 the rest+*1.1 PSU not efficiensy = 430 Watt. It seems something wrong going on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 16, 2019, 02:33:30 PM |
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....... For RX570's with Hynix in Windows environment - i suggest running this
-eres 1 -mode 2 -asm 2 -rxboost 21 -POL8H1@2200 -mvddc 875 -cclock 1200 -mvddc 880 -lidag 2 .........
what? -eres 1 -mode 2 -asm 2 -rxboost 21 -POL8H1@2200 -mvddc 875 -cclock 1200 -cvddc 880 -lidag 2 second one should be a cvddc sorry typo
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August 16, 2019, 02:37:19 PM |
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Hello guys,
I am experiencing an issue.
I made a new rig with 6 Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX570 8G OC, the memory installed on the cards is Hynix. They are not bios mod since I wanted to use -strap command directly in Claymore's miner. I am using Claymore v14.7 miner, with driver 19.4.3 since it is with this driver that Claymore has most tests been performed.
Compute mode ON, with overclocking, I uninstalled and installed the driver in claymore to be able to use -strap command. And I am mining at 22.5 MHs no matter what -strap I am using. The strap is applied successfuly : "strap "POL8H1" is applied successfully" on each card.
but the hashrate just refuses to change ! (-rxboost does actually work and allow me to reach 24MHs)
Anyone can help me to get -strap working on my rig and to reach 30+ Mhs per card, maybe by also changing the OC settings?
I will give to the one who provides me with a solution 100$ worth of Ethereum Classic.
I'd suggest running @eliovp's AMDMemTweak tool to see if the strap settings are getting the modifications. Run it without -strap first and note some of the values (tCL, etc) and then run it with -strap to see if indeed they are being applied. There a thread in Mining (Altcoins) just for this program and the executable is up on GitHub. I did it and with -strap 1 I am getting only 20.2MHs per card.. here is the screenshot without applying any -strap : https://www.noelshack.com/2019-33-5-1565953173-captureamdmemorytweak.pnghere is the screenshot after applying -strap 1 : https://www.noelshack.com/2019-33-5-1565953247-captureavecstrap1.pngWhat's wrong ?? You're in windows correct? PLEASE refer to my post you WILL get 33 to 34 Mhs with that configuration. AMDmemTweak is a different forum, as much as i love the tool, and love that it was the tool that prompted Claymore to update, but this is a claymore forum. lets keep this to claymore. Ensure you are in compute mode in wattman. just enabling compute in the command string does not necessarily kick the driver into compute mode. You need to go into the wattman and change it from graphic to compute.
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August 16, 2019, 02:44:51 PM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
you should not expect to see proper power consumption numbers from software especially on AMD. sorry, didin said cards type - rx 470 4g. Isnt it a little to big power consumption for only 4 cards and other suff ? i suppose 4*90=360+60 the rest+*1.1 PSU not efficiensy = 430 Watt. It seems something wrong going on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You forgot to add the fan's of the video cards. In every software they are showing you the GPU consumption, but you have to add 30-50 W for the fans / each GPU. Now if you do the math again, it's there ~ 600W. A good kill-a-watt is never wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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August 16, 2019, 02:50:19 PM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
you should not expect to see proper power consumption numbers from software especially on AMD. sorry, didin said cards type - rx 470 4g. Isnt it a little to big power consumption for only 4 cards and other suff ? i suppose 4*90=360+60 the rest+*1.1 PSU not efficiensy = 430 Watt. It seems something wrong going on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) NEVER take software voltage value on RX. The only true value is at wall. 600W for 4 cards, it's a little high. Your estimated 90w is wrong, 110-120w is more "acceptable" on ETH. So 120*4+60 *1.1 give 594w ... Check if your voltage is correctly applied.
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August 16, 2019, 02:53:59 PM |
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You forgot to add the fan's of the video cards. In every software they are showing you the GPU consumption, but you have to add 30-50 W for the fans / each GPU. Now if you do the math again, it's there ~ 600W. A good kill-a-watt is never wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Already seen you wrote that, please stop with your 30-50w for fans ... 1 fan may use 0.5A, so it's 6w when it's running at 100% ...
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August 16, 2019, 04:30:04 PM |
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....... For RX570's with Hynix in Windows environment - i suggest running this
-eres 1 -mode 2 -asm 2 -rxboost 21 -POL8H1@2200 -mvddc 875 -cclock 1200 -mvddc 880 -lidag 2 .........
what? -eres 1 -mode 2 -asm 2 -rxboost 21 -POL8H1@2200 -mvddc 875 -cclock 1200 -cvddc 880 -lidag 2 second one should be a cvddc sorry typo And what about the Micron? Also is this for the 4gb or 8gb? I've been doing this for my 8gb Micron and get ~27.5 @ 88w: Core 1000 Memory 2000 mvddc 900 cvddc 900 My Hynix gets ~27.4 @ 84w If I'm not mistaken... Micron you set to strap 3 Hynix you set to strap 1 ... for an extra ~5% more.
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August 16, 2019, 06:42:45 PM Last edit: August 16, 2019, 06:59:01 PM by WhackOBill |
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It looks like the -strap command in Claymore is not being applied since both of the views in the AMDMemTweak tool seem to show the same data. So even though he's reporting that the strap was successful, the AMDMemTweak tool seems to show that it was not. Which is why you're not getting a reasonable hash rate ... you're getting the same for both no -strap and -strap 1. What version of Windows are you on? I've had trouble with Win10 release 1903 similar to this.
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You forgot to add the fan's of the video cards. In every software they are showing you the GPU consumption, but you have to add 30-50 W for the fans / each GPU. Now if you do the math again, it's there ~ 600W. A good kill-a-watt is never wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Already seen you wrote that, please stop with your 30-50w for fans ... 1 fan may use 0.5A, so it's 6w when it's running at 100% ... And you have 1 fan / GPU? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) Another thing, how much a 4 card Rx470 rig should burn? If you say 600W is much...
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August 16, 2019, 11:14:48 PM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
you should not expect to see proper power consumption numbers from software especially on AMD. sorry, didin said cards type - rx 470 4g. Isnt it a little to big power consumption for only 4 cards and other suff ? i suppose 4*90=360+60 the rest+*1.1 PSU not efficiensy = 430 Watt. It seems something wrong going on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You forgot to add the fan's of the video cards. In every software they are showing you the GPU consumption, but you have to add 30-50 W for the fans / each GPU. Now if you do the math again, it's there ~ 600W. A good kill-a-watt is never wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Didn't listen him. He think that fans can consume 30-50W. F.e. RX 460 card has 1 fan and consumes about 75Wt. If he right half of it - fan ))) 1 Fan consumes about 3-7Wt of power. Even 3 fans max power will be not more than 20W.
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August 17, 2019, 04:17:16 AM |
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Hello guys,
I am experiencing an issue.
I made a new rig with 6 Phantom Gaming D Radeon RX570 8G OC, the memory installed on the cards is Hynix. They are not bios mod since I wanted to use -strap command directly in Claymore's miner. I am using Claymore v14.7 miner, with driver 19.4.3 since it is with this driver that Claymore has most tests been performed.
Compute mode ON, with overclocking, I uninstalled and installed the driver in claymore to be able to use -strap command. And I am mining at 22.5 MHs no matter what -strap I am using. The strap is applied successfuly : "strap "POL8H1" is applied successfully" on each card.
but the hashrate just refuses to change ! (-rxboost does actually work and allow me to reach 24MHs)
Anyone can help me to get -strap working on my rig and to reach 30+ Mhs per card, maybe by also changing the OC settings?
I will give to the one who provides me with a solution 100$ worth of Ethereum Classic.
Just follow Cryptobadger's guide, you should get there, or close, especially if you want it stable. http://www.cryptobadger.com/2017/04/build-ethereum-mining-rig-optimization/
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August 17, 2019, 07:44:11 AM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
you should not expect to see proper power consumption numbers from software especially on AMD. sorry, didin said cards type - rx 470 4g. Isnt it a little to big power consumption for only 4 cards and other suff ? i suppose 4*90=360+60 the rest+*1.1 PSU not efficiensy = 430 Watt. It seems something wrong going on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You forgot to add the fan's of the video cards. In every software they are showing you the GPU consumption, but you have to add 30-50 W for the fans / each GPU. Now if you do the math again, it's there ~ 600W. A good kill-a-watt is never wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well, your calcs is a little wrong. As written on each fan it consumes 12DC 0.5 A , so its 6 W each fan *3 fans = 18 Watt , on 4 GPUs rig it'll be about 80watt more to whole power eating. So its not 600 Watt overall. There is something i miss.
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August 17, 2019, 11:58:43 AM |
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Hi community!
Please help me yo understand what am i doing wrong.
I decided to lower powereat of my rig. Before everything CM 14.7 shows something like 90W GPU power consumption. Totoal about 360 on 4 GPUs rig. Okey. Wattmeter show 620 Watt at the wall. 1st WTF. After a lot of work and experiments i managed to lower core and memory waltages to about 850 , lowered mem clock and etc. Now CM shows 55-57 watt per GPU , it suits info that shows HWinfo about GPU chip power ( so lets say in miner should be "GPU chip power consumption"). BUT...... WTF at the wattmerer i see almost the same 600 Watt , in miner i see "Total GPUs power consumption: 225 Watts"
Where Am i wrong ?
Best Regards.
you should not expect to see proper power consumption numbers from software especially on AMD. sorry, didin said cards type - rx 470 4g. Isnt it a little to big power consumption for only 4 cards and other suff ? i suppose 4*90=360+60 the rest+*1.1 PSU not efficiensy = 430 Watt. It seems something wrong going on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You forgot to add the fan's of the video cards. In every software they are showing you the GPU consumption, but you have to add 30-50 W for the fans / each GPU. Now if you do the math again, it's there ~ 600W. A good kill-a-watt is never wrong ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Well, your calcs is a little wrong. As written on each fan it consumes 12DC 0.5 A , so its 6 W each fan *3 fans = 18 Watt , on 4 GPUs rig it'll be about 80watt more to whole power eating. So its not 600 Watt overall. There is something i miss. Ok, 80+360 = 440 then you have CPU, then you have fan of the CPU, then you have RAM, MB and so on.... all these things burn around 80 W, more or less depending the settings, temperature, etc... and now comes the naysayers telling me it's not 80W. I agree, you can fine tune it and maybe squeeze 50W or so but you will see it's not stable.
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