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August 02, 2016, 09:23:46 PM
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Yeah this is what I expected from the ION team.

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August 02, 2016, 09:57:01 PM
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Why is it when people want to discuss the topic at hand we get boki instead.  Looks like my report stats move from 14 at 100% to 15 at 100% *sigh*

Anyway we had some speculation about 20 new masternodes.  Is there any way to confirm if these have been created?  Like can we check some stats on the network for number of masternodes or are they similar to Paycoins super staker addresses that dont do anything beyond grab a bigger reward?

Slack is a dead end as it (conveniently?) only keeps 10k messages.  Makes me suspect yet again they dont keep a forum for a reason lol

Also it sounds like the game has been pushed back yet again?

I definitely, 100% positive remember reading a slack user question how 20 new masternodes went online when there weren't than many coins publicly available to make the 20 nodes.

If the core team took the premine and made 20 nodes (pure speculation on my part here. Not accusing anything.) they are literally stealing from the ION community as the community members will now get less stakes.

Has the team posted the addresses of the premine coins?

Thanks for the discussion, doesn't get to happen often in this thread lately...

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August 03, 2016, 06:37:58 AM
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Below is a quote from a current discussion on Ionomy Slack.

" Lots of opinions about what ionomy priorities should be:
1. freeze gravity code, release Gravity as is, and testing immediately
2. continue to build the code until ready for testing then let the whales bash on it — they’ve got the most to gain if ionomy succeeds
3. make the wallet work perfectly on every platform because “nothing else matters until that is fixed and works on every computer.
4. Prioritize hype and marketing because that’s the only thing that works in crypto
5. Create an electron market and add features to Atoms

As the email points out, the team's been addressing the bottom line concern: security. Hype and marketing or rushing something to market are not going to fix that. Isn’t that exactly why people were posting about the neucoin disaster? ceforce just reinforced that the plan is to let the whales hammer the alpha, which is a great way to tap into the community. From the email, and from #ionomy_github, the community’s also at work improving the wallets through code development and testnet.

I agree community is the greatest asset. Even all these different opinions in the community about priorities are great. But the team can’t do all of them first, right? That’s why they’re priorities! I like the ones they’ve chosen: Gravity alpha in the community and using the testnet to improve wallets and ION’s core code."

Grow the community and share your opions at

https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/general/details/

So ION doesn't even have working wallets yet, and the team has no clue how to proceed. Am I interpreting this correctly?
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August 03, 2016, 03:36:44 PM
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So ION doesn't even have working wallets yet, and the team has no clue how to proceed. Am I interpreting this correctly?

@Franz_Huber A detailed answer to this question is beyond the scope of me. This is a good question you can ask in Ionomy Slack. The latest status and support for the ION wallets are available there!

https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/general/details/

https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/help_and_support/details/

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August 03, 2016, 03:39:48 PM
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Below is a quote from a current discussion on Ionomy Slack.

" Lots of opinions about what ionomy priorities should be:
1. freeze gravity code, release Gravity as is, and testing immediately
2. continue to build the code until ready for testing then let the whales bash on it — they’ve got the most to gain if ionomy succeeds
3. make the wallet work perfectly on every platform because “nothing else matters until that is fixed and works on every computer.
4. Prioritize hype and marketing because that’s the only thing that works in crypto
5. Create an electron market and add features to Atoms

As the email points out, the team's been addressing the bottom line concern: security. Hype and marketing or rushing something to market are not going to fix that. Isn’t that exactly why people were posting about the neucoin disaster? ceforce just reinforced that the plan is to let the whales hammer the alpha, which is a great way to tap into the community. From the email, and from #ionomy_github, the community’s also at work improving the wallets through code development and testnet.

I agree community is the greatest asset. Even all these different opinions in the community about priorities are great. But the team can’t do all of them first, right? That’s why they’re priorities! I like the ones they’ve chosen: Gravity alpha in the community and using the testnet to improve wallets and ION’s core code."

Grow the community and share your opions at

https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/general/details/

So ION doesn't even have working wallets yet, and the team has no clue how to proceed. Am I interpreting this correctly?

The answer is yes. They are still having wallet issues. Not syncing, no stakes, installation issues...the usual.

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August 03, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
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The answer is yes. They are still having wallet issues. Not syncing, no stakes, installation issues...the usual.

Well, while we wait we can play those three awesome monthly games and earn protons or some sh... oh wait...

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August 03, 2016, 06:32:03 PM
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Total amount of BTC raised from ION ICO: ​363.79​ BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,261,871 / 5,000,000 for Week 1 = 261,871 IONs @  $422.00 =   124.1094786729858 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,310,010 / 5,000,000 for week 2 =     48,139 IONs @  $452.7     =     22.33088137839629 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,565,127 / 5,000,000  for week 3 = 255,117 IONs @  $450.8     =   124.502528837622 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,621,139 / 5,000,000 for week 4 =     56,012 IONs @  $442.5     =      29.11358192090395 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,656,784 / 5,000,000 for week 5 =     35,645 IONs @  $450.9     =      18.97272122421823 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,738,599 / 5,000,000 for week 6 =     81,815 IONs  @ $457          =     44.75656455142232 BTC

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August 03, 2016, 06:43:20 PM
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I thought the ICO only brought in 12 BTC?

And how does this response have anything to do with the question asked above? You can't report on the wallet status?

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August 03, 2016, 06:58:32 PM
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Total amount of BTC raised from ION ICO: ​363.79​ BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,261,871 / 5,000,000 for Week 1 = 261,871 IONs @  $422.00 =   124.1094786729858 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,310,010 / 5,000,000 for week 2 =     48,139 IONs @  $452.7     =     22.33088137839629 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,565,127 / 5,000,000  for week 3 = 255,117 IONs @  $450.8     =   124.502528837622 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,621,139 / 5,000,000 for week 4 =     56,012 IONs @  $442.5     =      29.11358192090395 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,656,784 / 5,000,000 for week 5 =     35,645 IONs @  $450.9     =      18.97272122421823 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,738,599 / 5,000,000 for week 6 =     81,815 IONs  @ $457          =     44.75656455142232 BTC

That's great. I've heard there is this fancy new uber-transparent thing called "blockchain". Any chance you could use that to show how that money came and went?

How about all the premine coins, bounties, "team" masternodes, etc, have those addresses been published anywhere for the bagholders to verify?

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August 03, 2016, 08:22:19 PM
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Total amount of BTC raised from ION ICO: ​363.79​ BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,261,871 / 5,000,000 for Week 1 = 261,871 IONs @  $422.00 =   124.1094786729858 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,310,010 / 5,000,000 for week 2 =     48,139 IONs @  $452.7     =     22.33088137839629 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,565,127 / 5,000,000  for week 3 = 255,117 IONs @  $450.8     =   124.502528837622 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,621,139 / 5,000,000 for week 4 =     56,012 IONs @  $442.5     =      29.11358192090395 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,656,784 / 5,000,000 for week 5 =     35,645 IONs @  $450.9     =      18.97272122421823 BTC
TOTAL SOLD 2,738,599 / 5,000,000 for week 6 =     81,815 IONs  @ $457          =     44.75656455142232 BTC

That's great. I've heard there is this fancy new uber-transparent thing called "blockchain". Any chance you could use that to show how that money came and went?

How about all the premine coins, bounties, "team" masternodes, etc, have those addresses been published anywhere for the bagholders to verify?

Shhhhhh, they're nice people. Nice people don't have to show blockchain proof.

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August 03, 2016, 09:18:13 PM
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I thought the ICO only brought in 12 BTC?

@CryptoBud I have run the calculations again and I can't get the number anywhere close to 12BTC.  Was your number computed from blockchain data or did you pull the number out of your ass?

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I thought the ICO only brought in 12 BTC?

@CryptoBud I have run the calculations again and I can't get the number anywhere close to 12BTC.  Was your number computed from blockchain data or did you pull the number out of your ass?

Ha ha ha! You said blockchain!!! Explain to me how I could have gotten that information from the blockchain when no addresses where posted publicly??? Could you please explain that to me. Or did they post all the addresses for the premine and bounty coins and such and I missed it?

I got that number cause that is what people kept saying in slack. So no, I didn't get that from the blockchain (again, you're just being funny. Saying blockchain and implying proof with ION. Ha ha ha!) I got it from repeatedly seeing members mention it in slack. Let me apologize for misreading. Those numbers you posted above mean absolutely nothing to anyone. So let's use your word, blockchain, and show some proof.

So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.

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I thought the ICO only brought in 12 BTC?

@CryptoBud I have run the calculations again and I can't get the number anywhere close to 12BTC.  Was your number computed from blockchain data or did you pull the number out of your ass?

Ha ha ha! You said blockchain!!! Explain to me how I could have gotten that information from the blockchain when no addresses where posted publicly??? Could you please explain that to me. Or did they post all the addresses for the premine and bounty coins and such and I missed it?

I got that number cause that is what people kept saying in slack. So no, I didn't get that from the blockchain (again, you're just being funny. Saying blockchain and implying proof with ION. Ha ha ha!) I got it from repeatedly seeing members mention it in slack. Let me apologize for misreading. Those numbers you posted above mean absolutely nothing to anyone. So let's use your word, blockchain, and show some proof.

So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.


You said the ION ICO raised 12 BTC which at $500 = $6000.

WildShark posted data that shows the sale of ION raised 364 BTC which at $500 = $182,000

This is higher than your number by an order of F**king magnitude. Add to this the money raised from the sale of 100k ATOMS at around $1.85 each that's another $185,000.

So in total your probably talking about an ION ICO that raised around $500,000 not $6,000  Grin

If it was only $6k then they would probably be all over this thread looking for further investment answering and sharing everything. The fact that they are not kinda tells a story

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August 03, 2016, 11:10:34 PM
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I thought the ICO only brought in 12 BTC?

@CryptoBud I have run the calculations again and I can't get the number anywhere close to 12BTC.  Was your number computed from blockchain data or did you pull the number out of your ass?

Ha ha ha! You said blockchain!!! Explain to me how I could have gotten that information from the blockchain when no addresses where posted publicly??? Could you please explain that to me. Or did they post all the addresses for the premine and bounty coins and such and I missed it?

I got that number cause that is what people kept saying in slack. So no, I didn't get that from the blockchain (again, you're just being funny. Saying blockchain and implying proof with ION. Ha ha ha!) I got it from repeatedly seeing members mention it in slack. Let me apologize for misreading. Those numbers you posted above mean absolutely nothing to anyone. So let's use your word, blockchain, and show some proof.

So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.


You said the ION ICO raised 12 BTC which at $500 = $6000.

WildShark posted data that shows the sale of ION raised 364 BTC which at $500 = $182,000

This is higher than your number by an order of F**king magnitude. Add to this the money raised from the sale of 100k ATOMS at around $1.85 each that's another $185,000.

So in total your probably talking about an ION ICO that raised around $500,000 not $6,000  Grin

If it was only $6k then they would probably be all over this thread looking for further investment answering and sharing everything. The fact that they are not kinda tells a story

I think you may have slightly missed the point, which is "he said she said". Where's the blockchain proof? I can announce that I had a $500 bazillion ICO but that wouldn't mean shit.

What's even more important - where is that money going to? Clearly not into coin development or game development or any other kind of development. 3 months after the uber-successful ICO they have nothing to show for it, much like many "fudsters" here predicted.

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August 03, 2016, 11:33:55 PM
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I thought the ICO only brought in 12 BTC?

@CryptoBud I have run the calculations again and I can't get the number anywhere close to 12BTC.  Was your number computed from blockchain data or did you pull the number out of your ass?

Ha ha ha! You said blockchain!!! Explain to me how I could have gotten that information from the blockchain when no addresses where posted publicly??? Could you please explain that to me. Or did they post all the addresses for the premine and bounty coins and such and I missed it?

I got that number cause that is what people kept saying in slack. So no, I didn't get that from the blockchain (again, you're just being funny. Saying blockchain and implying proof with ION. Ha ha ha!) I got it from repeatedly seeing members mention it in slack. Let me apologize for misreading. Those numbers you posted above mean absolutely nothing to anyone. So let's use your word, blockchain, and show some proof.

So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.


You said the ION ICO raised 12 BTC which at $500 = $6000.

WildShark posted data that shows the sale of ION raised 364 BTC which at $500 = $182,000

This is higher than your number by an order of F**king magnitude. Add to this the money raised from the sale of 100k ATOMS at around $1.85 each that's another $185,000.

So in total your probably talking about an ION ICO that raised around $500,000 not $6,000  Grin

If it was only $6k then they would probably be all over this thread looking for further investment answering and sharing everything. The fact that they are not kinda tells a story

Wildsharks data is bullshit without blockchain proof. You're words are pointless without it. Start over. Where are the addresses?

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So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.

You have everything. You got the Genesis block and every address created since then. You can follow every transaction before ION was issued to investors using the two ION coin explorers. You should be able to figure it out for yourselves without the help from the ION Team or Sharky...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?

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August 03, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
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So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.

You have everything. You got the Genesis block and every address created since then. You can follow every transaction before ION was issued to investors using the two coin explorers. You should be able to figure it out for your selves without the help from the ION Team or Sharky...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?

https://ionchain.com/



Great.. So how do you know all the exact amounts? Post the proof, eh?

Why should we have to waste time crawling a block explorer from the f'in genesis block? I must say, this just seems scammier by the day. lol.  Tongue
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August 03, 2016, 11:53:40 PM
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So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.

You have everything. You got the Genesis block and every address created since then. You can follow every transaction before ION was issued to investors using the two coin explorers. You should be able to figure it out for your selves without the help from the ION Team or Sharky...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?

https://ionchain.com/


Huh? EVERY address and TX originated from the genesis block, how does that help bagholders see which coins belong to whom? You have X million allocated for a certain bounty or hashstakers or whatever - post proof of that and let everybody see that it's exactly as you say it is, that no extra masternodes are being brought online, etc. Which part of this you're having trouble with?

And back to the original question - what are the addresses for the ICO bitcoins? Or do you want us to track that from genesis too?

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So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.

You have everything. You got the Genesis block and every address created since then. You can follow every transaction before ION was issued to investors using the two coin explorers. You should be able to figure it out for your selves without the help from the ION Team or Sharky...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?

https://ionchain.com/


Huh? EVERY address and TX originated from the genesis block, how does that help bagholders see which coins belong to whom? You have X million allocated for a certain bounty or hashstakers or whatever - post proof of that and let everybody see that it's exactly as you say it is, that no extra masternodes are being brought online, etc. Which part of this you're having trouble with?

And back to the original question - what are the addresses for the ICO bitcoins? Or do you want us to track that from genesis too?


And if they wanna search for the ICO funds, tell them they can start off at https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa

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So mr whale, post all the addresses like suchmoon asked for. Since now you are asking for blockchain proof, put your money where your mouth is. Personally, I think you'll ignore it or say some nasty words in some way or actually both. But I ask you to please post the addresses. We can then trace he blockchain and I will definitely admit I was wrong once I see the blockchain proof, for all the coins. Don't just post txid's for what the ionomy members bought. Show blockchain proof for all the coins.

You have everything. You got the Genesis block and every address created since then. You can follow every transaction before ION was issued to investors using the two coin explorers. You should be able to figure it out for your selves without the help from the ION Team or Sharky...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?

https://ionchain.com/


Huh? EVERY address and TX originated from the genesis block, how does that help bagholders see which coins belong to whom? You have X million allocated for a certain bounty or hashstakers or whatever - post proof of that and let everybody see that it's exactly as you say it is, that no extra masternodes are being brought online, etc. Which part of this you're having trouble with?

And back to the original question - what are the addresses for the ICO bitcoins? Or do you want us to track that from genesis too?


And if they wanna search for the ICO funds, tell them they can start off at https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa


Please post the addresses for the bounty, dev coins and Masternode addresses for staker payouts. You posting this BS blockchain shit proves you don't have the addresses. You are not original. Everything you regurgitate was spoon fed into your mouth for the BTC from your wallet. Every time you don't post the addresses you look more and more foolish.

This thread was winding down till you decided to bring up the fact that you heavily invested in one of the least transparent crypto projects ever by bringing up the word the ION team members hate the most, "blockchain". And your "trolling " is reinforcing that fact and you don't even realize it.

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