Claymore (OP)
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July 05, 2014, 06:20:46 AM |
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This guy promises that his proxy increases hashrate. Well, I'm curious so I checked how it works. Miner calculates hashrate as TotalNumberOfShares / TotalTimeRunning. If some pool has problems, miner is disconnected and in 20 seconds it will try to connect to same pool. After 3 attempts it will try next pool in fail-over list and so on. During these reconnection attempt mining is stopped and TotalNumberOfHashes is not growing, but TotalTimeRunning is still growing. So if your internet connection is unstable or your pool has some problems like DDOS, maintenance or something else, hashrate will be decreased. As soon as you restart miner hashrate will be back again until same situation. Now let's try this "proxy". Miner shows same hashrate, but try to disable your internet connection to simulate problems with pool. And you will see though proxy lost its connection to the pool, it does not disconnect miner, so miner still sends shares... to nowhere. Connection to proxy is ok so miner shows same hashrate, calculate hashes, everything looks good, but actually you don't get anything for shares that it finds. Well, let's wait, may be proxy will notice that something wrong? No, it's too simple for such things, I waited for 15 minutes with disabled internet connection but nothing happened, proxy did not disconnect miner so it still sends shares and shows good hashrate So now I know how he gets "+50% hashrate"... Another problem is that when you enable internet connection again, nothing happens again, miner still sends shares to nowhere because proxy does not reconnect to the pool. But hashrate is ok of course And link to my warning: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638915.msg7680353#msg7680353
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arielbit
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July 05, 2014, 06:33:27 AM |
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it seems older cards like 67xx and 58xx are not supported by 14.6 driver therefore 13.12 driver is in use....i'm using 3.1 on these cards since 4.x miner works only for driver 14.6, it works but i would like to request "-r Restart miner mode" on ver 3.1 because these cards only run for a few hours or minutes..a restart would be great.
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Claymore (OP)
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July 05, 2014, 06:35:02 AM |
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it seems older cards like 67xx and 58xx are not supported by 14.6 driver therefore 13.12 driver is in use....i'm using 3.1 on these cards since 4.x miner works only for driver 14.6, it works but i would like to request "-r Restart miner mode" on ver 3.1 because these cards only run for a few hours or minutes..a restart would be great.
v4.x has two builds - for Catalyst 13.12 and for Catalyst 14.6.
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arielbit
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July 05, 2014, 07:07:13 AM |
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it seems older cards like 67xx and 58xx are not supported by 14.6 driver therefore 13.12 driver is in use....i'm using 3.1 on these cards since 4.x miner works only for driver 14.6, it works but i would like to request "-r Restart miner mode" on ver 3.1 because these cards only run for a few hours or minutes..a restart would be great.
v4.x has two builds - for Catalyst 13.12 and for Catalyst 14.6. that's great...my bad..thanks!
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bitwolf
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July 05, 2014, 07:58:49 AM |
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And while we are still on the thematic 5*** and 6*** series I would like to ask why my stock 5850s make only 90h/s with 18 units and my stock 280x which has 32 units makes 475 h/s. 5th and 6 series are not optimized. Please Claymore -do something about that. I believe that stock 5850 could acheive at least 150 h/s. Thanks
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pepi
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July 05, 2014, 08:12:24 AM |
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Claymore if i may say some word. First I wont to say that one "virus detection" of 54 means nothing. I may call ten antivirus maker and told that put file in virus signature and mark it as virus. False positive is from years ago, will be, and always some peace of software will be false positive. I dont wont to go to discussion why is that heapen but it is. So, one detection doesn't mean nothing and icon oh Trojan doesn't mean it is "bad software".
Your software Claymore is in my case much more "bad" then any proxy. Why? Because I MUST terminate Kaspersky before I start CPU or GPU miner. so what I should think about your software? That is peace of shi...? No, you miner, both of your miners are fastest and I am very happy you write it and publish it. But you also do NOTHING to make it compatible with Kaspersky. Your protection is bad, and you wont to change it because if you does, someone will recompile, change or anything else, and you will loose your dev fee.
And last: if it is true that you earn 6000 XMR ( and who knows how many other coins) then I think you should release little slower ( lets say 5 % slower) miners, and look what public will accept: your faster or slower miner. 5% is not small amount: I am very small miner, I have 1KH/s. 5% to me is one day of mining in 20 days... Lower to 2.5 percent...
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oldkolobok
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July 05, 2014, 08:41:22 AM |
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Our Claymore sees only the mistakes of others. That his miner with viruses, to 3.4 version cope with bad check for a connection pool and hash sent into the void that currently hash otkolupyvaet 5% more than that proportion of its participation in the program and 10 percent of the codes are closed - he does not see. As many as two posts critics wrote. Why not in your address?. ))) I think the guy to make the proxy version 4 not worse.
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tiptopcode
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July 05, 2014, 08:56:04 AM |
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So now I know how he gets "+50% hashrate"... Another problem is that when you enable internet connection again, nothing happens again, miner still sends shares to nowhere because proxy does not reconnect to the pool. But hashrate is ok of course This is bullshit. If proxy can not deliver data, miner will not get response from the pool and will failover. He said that he got hashrate increase on pool, regardless what miner says...
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July 05, 2014, 09:06:19 AM |
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And last: if it is true that you earn 6000 XMR ( and who knows how many other coins) then I think you should release little slower ( lets say 5 % slower) miners, and look what public will accept: your faster or slower miner. 5% is not small amount: I am very small miner, I have 1KH/s. 5% to me is one day of mining in 20 days... Lower to 2.5 percent... He will not. He wants another 6000 XMR.
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July 05, 2014, 09:13:19 AM |
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Back ontopic: version 4.1 ignores the -o parameter. Always uses pools.txt.
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nrg_wolf
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July 05, 2014, 09:21:49 AM |
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just so you guys know, claymore has added a no fee option to miner 4.2...... hope you guys are happy now....
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Claymore (OP)
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July 05, 2014, 09:26:38 AM |
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Claymore if i may say some word. First I wont to say that one "virus detection" of 54 means nothing. I may call ten antivirus maker and told that put file in virus signature and mark it as virus. False positive is from years ago, will be, and always some peace of software will be false positive. I dont wont to go to discussion why is that heapen but it is. So, one detection doesn't mean nothing and icon oh Trojan doesn't mean it is "bad software".
Your software Claymore is in my case much more "bad" then any proxy. Why? Because I MUST terminate Kaspersky before I start CPU or GPU miner. so what I should think about your software? That is peace of shi...? No, you miner, both of your miners are fastest and I am very happy you write it and publish it. But you also do NOTHING to make it compatible with Kaspersky. Your protection is bad, and you wont to change it because if you does, someone will recompile, change or anything else, and you will loose your dev fee.
And last: if it is true that you earn 6000 XMR ( and who knows how many other coins) then I think you should release little slower ( lets say 5 % slower) miners, and look what public will accept: your faster or slower miner. 5% is not small amount: I am very small miner, I have 1KH/s. 5% to me is one day of mining in 20 days... Lower to 2.5 percent...
1. I agree about false alarms. I don't state this proxy is a virus. But I see that my antivirus alarms sometimes when I close it. Scanning is ok, however. 2. You are correct about protection - I cannot remove it because some people want to spend their time to crack the miner instead of writing own one. So I do nothing because I cannot do anything here. Say thanks these guys. 3. Ok, I just released v4.2 with "-nofee" option, in this mode miner is a bit slower (-10%) but absolutely free, so I will lose 100%, you will lose only 5%. If you think that I'm bad greedy guy and does not deserve the fee - enable this mode.
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July 05, 2014, 09:33:50 AM |
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Back ontopic: version 4.1 ignores the -o parameter. Always uses pools.txt.
Yes, it always uses "pools.txt" but it does not ignore "-o" option. It firstly adds pool(s) from "-o" option and then adds pool(s) from "pools.txt".
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ivanlabrie
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July 05, 2014, 09:40:45 AM |
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Claymore if i may say some word. First I wont to say that one "virus detection" of 54 means nothing. I may call ten antivirus maker and told that put file in virus signature and mark it as virus. False positive is from years ago, will be, and always some peace of software will be false positive. I dont wont to go to discussion why is that heapen but it is. So, one detection doesn't mean nothing and icon oh Trojan doesn't mean it is "bad software".
Your software Claymore is in my case much more "bad" then any proxy. Why? Because I MUST terminate Kaspersky before I start CPU or GPU miner. so what I should think about your software? That is peace of shi...? No, you miner, both of your miners are fastest and I am very happy you write it and publish it. But you also do NOTHING to make it compatible with Kaspersky. Your protection is bad, and you wont to change it because if you does, someone will recompile, change or anything else, and you will loose your dev fee.
And last: if it is true that you earn 6000 XMR ( and who knows how many other coins) then I think you should release little slower ( lets say 5 % slower) miners, and look what public will accept: your faster or slower miner. 5% is not small amount: I am very small miner, I have 1KH/s. 5% to me is one day of mining in 20 days... Lower to 2.5 percent...
1. I agree about false alarms. I don't state this proxy is a virus. But I see that my antivirus alarms sometimes when I close it. Scanning is ok, however. 2. You are correct about protection - I cannot remove it because some people want to spend their time to crack the miner instead of writing own one. So I do nothing because I cannot do anything here. Say thanks these guys. 3. Ok, I just released v4.2 with "-nofee" option, in this mode miner is a bit slower (-10%) but absolutely free, so I will lose 100%, you will lose only 5%. If you think that I'm bad greedy guy and does not deserve the fee - enable this mode. For the amount of work you put in, 5% (despite being a big cut but) is worth it. Props on the nofee option, I don't use it since I prefer to support the dev in this case.
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July 05, 2014, 09:58:21 AM |
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Whats good setting for 280x?
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July 05, 2014, 10:11:25 AM |
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my settings for 280x toxic is 1080/1500,gpuvddc=1.2,i get 4x280x=1530,thats maxumum i can get,fans are on 60%..windows 8.1,miner 3.3
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July 05, 2014, 10:19:27 AM |
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Claymore, I just wanted to thank you for your fantastic work. Your miner is awesome and you definitely deserve the ongoing development fee. I would recommend you though to make the fee more flexible instead of off and high. I believe that the majority of people are very happy to permanently donate between 1 and 5 %. Take away the no fee option. If someone doesn't even want to donate 1 %, that person is obviously a greedy asshole.
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July 05, 2014, 10:20:05 AM |
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my settings for 280x toxic is 1080/1500,gpuvddc=1.2,i get 4x280x=1530,thats maxumum i can get,fans are on 60%..windows 8.1,miner 3.3
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July 05, 2014, 10:20:33 AM |
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And again. Any ETA for PIMP version ?
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July 05, 2014, 10:21:47 AM |
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Claymore, I just wanted to thank you for your fantastic work. Your miner is awesome and you definitely deserve the ongoing development fee. I would recommend you though to make the fee more flexible instead of off and high. I believe that the majority of people are very happy to permanently donate between 1 and 5 %. Take away the no fee option. If someone doesn't even want to donate 1 %, that person is obviously a greedy asshole.
i actually agree with you, give people the option, and those who are greedy should have to suffer a lower speed on thier cards. like the new yam miner, lowest donation/dev fee is 2%...... give the user the choice really....
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