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December 04, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
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It's possible you ran into a n² computation issue rather than actual corruption. If it happens next time, give it 30 minutes and see if it completes.

As for the scanning, how many wallets do you use at the same time and do you use imported private keys? These could be the cause of the multiple transaction scans.

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December 04, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
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It's possible you ran into a n² computation issue rather than actual corruption. If it happens next time, give it 30 minutes and see if it completes.

As for the scanning, how many wallets do you use at the same time and do you use imported private keys? These could be the cause of the multiple transaction scans.

 I have only 2 wallets, keys were not imported.
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December 05, 2013, 08:34:30 AM
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I've had 0.88.1-beta on my online machine (W7 x64) and an even much earlier version offline (W7 x86).  The pair has been very stable but I feel the need to get with the times and upgrade to the current 0.90-beta version.  Should I also upgrade the offline Armory to 0.90-beta just to be consistent if nothing else?  Furthermore, do I need to uninstall the older versions first before upgrading or just install and upgrade over them?
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December 05, 2013, 08:51:05 AM
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I've had 0.88.1-beta on my online machine (W7 x64) and an even much earlier version offline (W7 x86).  The pair has been very stable but I feel the need to get with the times and upgrade to the current 0.90-beta version.  Should I also upgrade the offline Armory to 0.90-beta just to be consistent if nothing else?  Furthermore, do I need to uninstall the older versions first before upgrading or just install and upgrade over them?

Just run the installer when Armory isn't running. You'll eventually get to a point where the new features available will justify the need to upgrade your offline Armory version (let's say you want to use M-of-N for your back ups).

You shouldn't run into a compatibility issue, using an ancient version of Armory to sign plain transactions emitted with 0.90.

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December 05, 2013, 09:10:15 AM
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I've had 0.88.1-beta on my online machine (W7 x64) and an even much earlier version offline (W7 x86).  The pair has been very stable but I feel the need to get with the times and upgrade to the current 0.90-beta version.  Should I also upgrade the offline Armory to 0.90-beta just to be consistent if nothing else?  Furthermore, do I need to uninstall the older versions first before upgrading or just install and upgrade over them?

Just run the installer when Armory isn't running. You'll eventually get to a point where the new features available will justify the need to upgrade your offline Armory version (let's say you want to use M-of-N for your back ups).

You shouldn't run into a compatibility issue, using an ancient version of Armory to sign plain transactions emitted with 0.90.

Thanks for the quick reply, goatpig.  I might as well go all the way and upgrade both.  What's an M-of-N feature BTW?  I haven't seen that term/acronym on the website.

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December 05, 2013, 09:21:37 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply, goatpig.  I might as well go all the way and upgrade both.  What's an M-of-N feature BTW?  I haven't seen that term/acronym on the website.

One of the new backup feature: constructs a wallet backup made of N fragments, which can be a mix of paper and digital backups. Requires M (M<=N) fragments to recompose the wallet. Currently M spans from 2 to 8 and N from 2 to 12.

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December 05, 2013, 09:42:31 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply, goatpig.  I might as well go all the way and upgrade both.  What's an M-of-N feature BTW?  I haven't seen that term/acronym on the website.

One of the new backup feature: constructs a wallet backup made of N fragments, which can be a mix of paper and digital backups. Requires M (M<=N) fragments to recompose the wallet. Currently M spans from 2 to 8 and N from 2 to 12.

That went straight over my head (I'm coding-challenged) Smiley.  Anyhow, does this mean that I have to create a new set of paper and digital backups of all my wallets/private keys on the offline machine after upgrading?  It's probably not likely but I just want to be sure.
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December 05, 2013, 02:16:05 PM
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That went straight over my head (I'm coding-challenged) Smiley.  Anyhow, does this mean that I have to create a new set of paper and digital backups of all my wallets/private keys on the offline machine after upgrading?  It's probably not likely but I just want to be sure.

You don't have to unless you want to use the feature. If you're fine with single sheet paper backups, there's no need to move to M-of-N. The later isn't replacing the former, it's an added feature.

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December 05, 2013, 02:54:21 PM
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That went straight over my head (I'm coding-challenged) Smiley.  Anyhow, does this mean that I have to create a new set of paper and digital backups of all my wallets/private keys on the offline machine after upgrading?  It's probably not likely but I just want to be sure.

You don't have to unless you want to use the feature. If you're fine with single sheet paper backups, there's no need to move to M-of-N. The later isn't replacing the former, it's an added feature.

OK.  Got it!  Thanks again.
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December 05, 2013, 08:34:22 PM
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Small request, or maybe it has already been implemented somehow.  Can Armory users get the option to switch into mBTC please?
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December 05, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
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Small request, or maybe it has already been implemented somehow.  Can Armory users get the option to switch into mBTC please?

Not yet.  But we'll be adding it to 0.91-beta.  That version is mostly bug-fixes, usability upgrades, polishing, etc.  Things like sending to P2SH, unicode fixes, alternate units, will all be implemented then.

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December 06, 2013, 01:15:20 AM
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Another small request please.

Can you add the printable special characters to the mouse keyboard for wallet password. A few are there, but most missing. Thanks!

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December 06, 2013, 04:32:05 AM
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Another small request please.

Can you add the printable special characters to the mouse keyboard for wallet password. A few are there, but most missing. Thanks!

That's one of the little things going into 0.91-beta ... added support for all character encodings/types, except inside wallets (which the wallet format and code was not designed to accommodate).  When I finally finish the new wallet format, then we can can have a fully internationalized app, with no restrictions anywhere.  Then we can also start prepping the app for localization & translations.

It's coming...

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December 06, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
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Hello etotheipi and all Armory users!
We've made a review of Armory wallet: bitcoinsites.org/bitcoinarmory/
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December 07, 2013, 05:55:01 PM
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So I downloaded the .91 beta.  But it's back to taking forever to start up.  Literally 20 minutes.
Is it suppose to do that.  I thought the last version fixed that.
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December 07, 2013, 06:03:05 PM
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So I downloaded the .91 beta.  But it's back to taking forever to start up.  Literally 20 minutes.
Is it suppose to do that.  I thought the last version fixed that.

The first time you run the new version, it has to read the block data from bitcoin's data directory and write its own to the armory data directory. This takes a while, but only has to be done once. Subsequent startups will read the block data from the armory directory much more quickly.
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December 07, 2013, 06:07:10 PM
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i have had it for 4-5 days and have started it up at least 6 times.  Every time it takes 20 minutes.
Should I re-download?
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December 07, 2013, 06:39:23 PM
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i have had it for 4-5 days and have started it up at least 6 times.  Every time it takes 20 minutes.
Should I re-download?

Are you closing Armory "properly"?  It will rescan every time there's an unclean shutdown, to avoid any SNAFU-problems associated with close-but-not-actually-correct wallet histories.  If you shutdown Armory using "File"->"Quit Armory" or use the (X) in the corner, it should be fine.  If you're rebooting without closing Armory first, or you're killing it through the task manager, you'll be rescanning every time.

In 0.91-beta I'll experiment with removing clean-shutdown criteria.  I know it's annoying, but I determined the risk of people with seemingly-correct histories that aren't actually correct could cause serious problems (invisible coins, lost coins and/or inability to send).




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December 07, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
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My request would be to update the fees logic to what's being implemented in Qt/d 0.8.6. It's in release candidate stage right now, but I expect it will be fully released before 0.91.

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December 07, 2013, 07:09:22 PM
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My request would be to update the fees logic to what's being implemented in Qt/d 0.8.6. It's in release candidate stage right now, but I expect it will be fully released before 0.91.

I didn't realize it was changing again.  What will it be now?

We just updated the logic in 0.90 to use 0.0001 BTC as the base.

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