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1861  Other / Off-topic / Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. WTF? on: April 19, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
This is really funny. Australia and Malaysia has reached a deal on who should have the custody of the black box, once it is recovered. Why a deal even before recovering the black box?

Jurisdiction rules so that one nation or the other will work on the recovery / investigation.

Typical in a number of investigations like this.

Examples:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Air_Flight_1285 (Canadian Soil)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissair_Flight_111

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The initial search and rescue response, crash recovery operation, and resulting investigation by the Government of Canada took over four years and cost CAD 57 million (at that time approximately USD 38 million).[3] The Transportation Safety Board of Canada's (TSB) official report of their investigation stated that flammable material used in the aircraft's structure allowed a fire to spread beyond the control of the crew, resulting in a loss of control and the crash of the aircraft.[4]

Expensive it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

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While the Brazilian Navy removed the first major wreckage and two bodies from the sea within five days of the accident, the BEA's (Bureau d'Enquêtes et d'Analyses pour la Sécurité de l'Aviation Civile) initial investigation was hampered because the aircraft's black boxes were not recovered from the ocean floor until May 2011, nearly two years later.[1][3]

Underwater search
On 5 June 2009, the French nuclear submarine Émeraude was dispatched to the crash zone, arriving in the area on the 10th. Its mission was to assist in the search for the missing flight recorders or "black-boxes" which might be located at great depth.[95] The submarine would use its sonar to listen for the ultrasonic signal emitted by the black boxes' "pingers",[96] covering 13 sq mi (34 km2) a day. The Émeraude was to work with the mini-sub Nautile, which can descend to the ocean floor. The French submarines would be aided by two U.S. underwater audio devices capable of picking up signals at a depth of 20,000 ft (6,100 m).[97]
1862  Other / Meta / Re: Sorry Phinnaeus Gage, you are banned from using this forum! Trolling on: April 19, 2014, 01:24:56 PM
If I were the mods I'd nuke his post history and give him a fresh account. If he wants to change his ways to something that isn't considered horrific spamming then he can do so.

NUKE IT!
On the contrary, I've seen repeatedly that the old adage "A leopard cannot change its spots" is very true and eventually everyone gravitates back to their original nature. Having his post history - not just the number of posts but more importantly their content - in the open for everyone to see is far more useful.

Meh.

 Nukem or just bust em down to Newbie again... 6 minutes per post... hmmm?
1863  Other / Meta / Re: Sorry Phinnaeus Gage, you are banned from using this forum! Trolling on: April 19, 2014, 08:49:27 AM
If I were the mods I'd nuke his post history and give him a fresh account. If he wants to change his ways to something that isn't considered horrific spamming then he can do so.

NUKE IT!
1864  Other / Meta / Re: Why I am turning my back on bitcointalk. It just doesnt work anymore. on: April 19, 2014, 08:48:45 AM
The solution is not restricting freedom in the name of security, but education.

Then help us content creators help educate new buyers. Sticky this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691


+1. Yup. We do like to sticky things that help new members don't we?
1865  Other / Off-topic / Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. WTF? on: April 19, 2014, 08:34:48 AM
http://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Boeing-777/database


http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20070226-0
Code:
Narrative:

The accident occurred during engine start after pushback from the stand.
After the right generator came online an electrical failure occurred in the
right main bus. The failure resulted in severe internal arcing and short circuits
inside the two main power contactors of the right main bus. The heat generated
during the failure resulted in the contactor casings becoming compromised,
causing molten metal droplets to fall down onto the insulation blankets below.
The insulation blankets ignited and a fire spread underneath a floor panel to
the opposite electrical panel (P205), causing heat and fire damage to structure,
cooling ducts and wiring. The flight crew responded to the bus failure and a
burning smell by shutting down the right engine and taxiing to a nearby stand.
The Airfield Fire Service attended the aircraft when it arrived on stand and
entered the Main Equipment Centre where they discovered significant smoke
but no fire. The passengers were evacuated uneventfully via steps.

CAUSAL FACTORS:

1. An internal failure of the Right Generator Circuit Breaker or Right Bus Tie Breaker
contactor on the P200 power panel inside the Main Equipment Centre resulted in
severe internal arcing and short-circuits which melted the contactor casings.
The root cause of contactor failure could not be determined.
2. The open base of the P200 power panel allowed molten metal droplets from
the failed contactors to drop down onto the insulation blankets and ignite them.
3. The aircraft’s electrical protection system was not designed to detect and
rapidly remove power from a contactor suffering from severe internal arcing and
short-circuits.
4. The contactors had internal design features that probably contributed to the
uncontained failures.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20080117-0

Code:
The investigation identified the following probable causal factors that led to the 
fuel flow restrictions:

1) Accreted ice from within the fuel system released, causing a restriction
to the engine fuel flow at the face of the FOHE, on both of the engines.
2) Ice had formed within the fuel system, from water that occurred naturally
in the fuel, whilst the aircraft operated with low fuel flows over a long period
and the localised fuel temperatures were in an area described as the ‘sticky range’.
3) The FOHE, although compliant with the applicable certification requirements,
was shown to be susceptible to restriction when presented with soft ice in a
high concentration, with a fuel temperature that is below -10°C and a fuel flow
above flight idle.
4) Certification requirements, with which the aircraft and engine fuel systems
had to comply, did not take account of this phenomenon as the risk was
unrecognised at that time.

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20110729-0

Code:
Narrative:

A Boeing 777-266ER, SU-GBP, sustained substantial damage in a cockpit
fire at Cairo International Airport (CAI), Egypt.
The aircraft was preparing for departure at Gate F7, Terminal 3 at Cairo
Airport at the time the crew detected a fire at the right hand lower portion
of the cockpit area, below the number 3 window. The crew and passengers
expeditiously deplaned with no injuries.

Examination of the aircraft determined that the cockpit was extensively damaged,
and two holes were burned through the aircraft external skin just below the First
Officer’s window. In addition, smoke damage occurred throughout the aircraft,
and heat damage was found on overhead structures well aft of the cockpit.
The crew oxygen system has a number of oxygen lines and hoses running
through the area were the fire started. Some of those hoses are electrically
conductive, according to research. The investigators are conducting tests to
determine if a failure involving these hoses could have been the primary cause
of the fire.

Currently, the Boeing Company, in coordination with the investigation and the
Federal Aviation Administration of the United States, is working to develop
mitigation strategies that are designed to eliminate this potential source of
fire in the cockpit. Boeing is working to finalize a Service Bulletin that is
designed to inspect for and eliminate potential electrical faults around the
crew oxygen system lines and hoses. In addition, Boeing is developing plans
to replace the current crew oxygen system hoses with new, non-conductive
hoses and is evaluating the benefits to providing additional electrical grounding
points for crew oxygen system components.

CONCLUSIONS:

Examination of the aircraft revealed that the fire originated near the first officer's
oxygen mask supply tubing, which is located underneath the side console below
the no. 3 right hand flight deck window. Oxygen from the flight crew oxygen system
is suspected to have contributed to the fire's intensity and speed.
The cause of the fire could not be conclusively determined. It is not yet known
whether the oxygen system breach occurred first, providing a flammable environment
or whether the oxygen system breach occurred as a result of the fire.

Accident could be related to the following probable causes:

1. Electrical fault or short circuit resulted in electrical heating of flexible hoses in the flight
crew oxygen system. (Electrical Short Circuits: contact between aircraft wiring and oxygen
system components may be possible if multiple wire clamps are missing or fractured or if
wires are incorrectly installed).
2. Exposure to Electrical Current

1866  Other / Off-topic / Re: Answer the question above with a question. on: April 19, 2014, 08:20:22 AM
I'm too lazy to read this right now. What about you?

Lazy?
1867  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2 Phase Immersion cooling for the home on: April 19, 2014, 08:07:58 AM
Ya definitely.

The fact you have to use Indium shims or carbon based heatsink paste / pads is an issue in terms of prep.

I haven't seen that link nice one you get to see the board pulled out. The fluid sure isn't filled to the top is it.
1868  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: April 19, 2014, 07:19:07 AM
Well given we might have time between the Hammer and BE200 Hornets and the conference in HK it might be possible to have both Whiteface boards ready. But I think that is a tall order for our team to get even 1 Whiteface board done, but that is something that we will be talking about today at the meeting. I think what Allied Control is looking at is doing a standardized form factor so the type of chip is not the focus but rather the system they are suggesting.

Meaning... any design can get dunked in that system in HK. Not sure if we will have something but I hope we do have 2 types of boards to drop in a tank in coming months.
1869  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2 Phase Immersion cooling for the home on: April 19, 2014, 06:57:36 AM
Cool I think I saw that video before... just note that I am in contact with an Engineer at Allied Control... they are working on an open bath system as well Jimmothy.

Safety relief valve / purge valves I guess?



https://www.swagelok.com/downloads/WebCatalogs/EN/MS-01-62.pdf
1870  Other / Off-topic / Re: Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. WTF? on: April 19, 2014, 06:03:13 AM
The flight departed from .. and was last plotted heading northwest towards another waypoint called IGREX.[27][28][29]

So far, the sources for that appear to be hearsay by anonymous sources, but if confirmed, I'll drop my fire theory.

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At this point, suicide may be your fallback… and I can't argue it except to say its a really strange way to commit suicide, disabling communications and having to directly kill your friend copilot or somehow get him out of the cockpit so you can go on a joyride into the Indian ocean?    All of the research they seem to have done on the pilots doesn't seem to indicate either had a reason to commit suicide.

Dual suicide pact?  hard to believe.

Dual suicide seems far fetched indeed, but its not very hard to come up with theories explaining a single suicide; while the captain or copilot is out of the cockpit (they go to the bathroom too you know), close the reinforced cabin door and depressurize the plane. ~15 minutes later you have a silent plane. As for why it would be a strange way, I disagree. In fact, its probably how I would do it if I was to take my own life and had no quarrels taking 200 innocents with me. Vanish and turn your cowardly act in to a possibly unsolvable mystery. I would find that more appealing that the thought that my children and family would view me as a murderer and coward.

As for the reason, one can of course only guess, but IIRC the captain's wife was divorcing him and she was moving out of the house that very day. He also had problems in his extramarital affair and apparently received a phone call from some woman minutes before the flight. His own daughter claimed the captain acted strangely and distant (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pilot-3303379) in the month leading up to the crash. There is this dogma on talking about pilot's suicide, but its happened before and it seems unthinkable no pilot will ever do it again:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/03/11/just-how-common-are-pilot-suicides/?tid=pm_national_pop

<snip randomlove is a racist bigot not to be listened to>

There are a number of documented cases that could be viable that the pilot was 'off their meds' or "a tad squirrely" and was contemplating suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Express_Flight_705

http://www.tailstrike.com/070494.htm

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Flight Engineer Auburn Calloway knew his career was about to end. His employer, Federal Express, had recently uncovered a series of irregularities and outright falsifications in both his original employment application and in hundreds of hours of flight records. He was ordered to appear at a disciplinary hearing in the second week of April, 1994. He understood that the likeliest outcome of such a hearing would be his termination, and subsequently the loss of his FAA flight certification.

His solution was as simple as it was horrifying. He would provide for his family financially, end his own life, and in the process he would punish FedEx in the worst way imaginable.

I would still lean to some sort of mechanical failure / decompression / fire scenario first given that has happened more often than the suicide pilot incidents. Just the numbers make it more likely it was mechanical.

http://news.aviation-safety.net/2013/12/22/list-of-aircraft-accidents-caused-by-pilot-suicide/

and

http://news.aviation-safety.net/category/accident-criminalization/
1871  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YES, you can get a REFUND from BFL on: April 19, 2014, 05:23:17 AM
monarchs are held back for their own use, they will be shipping once their usefulness is exhausted by BFL

If you can prove that there is a law firm that wants that evidence.

Contact them here: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

Discovery could prove this.

Yes... I can't wait for that. I am betting there is plenty available in BFL records to sink them permanently. I wish someone at BFL would roll now to save their own asses and push the end game faster.


"It's not pining it's passed on! This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker! This, is a late parrot! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it would be pushin' up the daisies! It's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! "THIS IS AN EX PARROT!"


1872  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YES, you can get a REFUND from BFL on: April 19, 2014, 05:19:43 AM
monarchs are held back for their own use, they will be shipping once their usefulness is exhausted by BFL

If you can prove that there is a law firm that wants that evidence.

Contact them here: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

I think the cost of production vs. the mining that they are capable of has already crossed the line. They can't even make BFL coins vs fabrication and electricity etc so I don't know what they are planning to do with these underperforming units. Time to "revamp" the design and get more pre-orders I think. Use a mining calculator and do the numbers.
1873  Other / Off-topic / Re: TOWN HALL (prep) Meeting: Butterfly Labs on: April 19, 2014, 05:08:13 AM
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/04/08/bitcoin-mining-class-action-lawsuit-butterfly-labs.html?page=2

Has this town hall been asleep for too long?

My questions:

1. Are there any customers that can attest to the nature of the relationship with BFL?
2. With 2 active lawsuits against BFL does anyone that supported them in the past now wish to change their mind?
3. Should the community now work to inform the new members coming to Bitcointalk about the dangers of BFL?
1874  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 19, 2014, 04:48:17 AM
Policy?

That is what is going to happen no matter what. It has happened with BF, ASICMINER and KNC... you think the latest company coming to market shouldn't build more powerful cheaper units that are sold to the public? Or should they simply do what those companies above are doing? You can't lay the blame on a single company. They didn't build the first MMO's nor did they say they would cut the community out and only sell to deep pockets like others have already done. They are giving the community the resources to compete and given their vision as said in this thread I suspect they will continue to do that but the individual is not going to be mining BTC.

Like Solo mining went to Pools hardware has to be collectivized. They are selling the Hammer chips that alone is helpful if we can get DIY fabricators involved as well that spread the network. At this point you might what to think about the network and how it needs to be diversified spread out. How can that be achieved? With cheap SP10's or SP30s and beyond that are CHEAPER per Gh/s? I get you want to protect the masses but right now the war isn't us against Spondoolies. It is everyone against the consolidation of hash power in a few hands.

Where else are you going to buy miners? That is the question I have.

If you are an individual small miner not pooling resources you are OUT of the game already start looking around for a bunch of people to hook up with.

You can't house things like this in your home. You need power you need a facility and they will need engineered systems and cooling.

Don't think it is the company that is doing this it is the technology that is driving this move.

Seriously right you get that these things are getting more juice, hotter and not for home use right?

This is KnC... and you are knocking the SP30 as the evil that causes MMO's wake up dude we are all behind the curve. The only way you stay in this if you want to risk it is with groups of people pooling resources.



Sorry this well offtopic... but people are certainly not seeing the whole picture.
1875  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: YES, you can get a REFUND from BFL on: April 19, 2014, 04:28:45 AM
In the "it ain't over 'til it's over" category ...

Today (April 18, 2014) I got a call from the District Attorney's office where I filed the complaint.  The investigator commented that there had been numerous complaints and that he was contacting all the victims -- his wording, not mine.

In other "not so fresh" world news ...

The judge issued a default judgment in favor of the plaintiffs in at least one non-delivery case.  (A default judgment occurs when the accused does not bother to respond or show up in court.)  BFL now wants that default judgment overturned.  My opinion:  When they found out that the legal system does work, even if not quickly, arrogance became fear.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/01/15/leawood-bitcoin-company-faces-lawsuit.html


2nd Lawsuit... more to come.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/news/2014/04/08/bitcoin-mining-class-action-lawsuit-butterfly-labs.html


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They're suing for violations of the Kansas Consumer Protection Act, unjust
enrichment, negligent misrepresentation and conversion.

The proposed class would include anyone who prepaid for equipment from BF Labs,
the petition said. It alleges that BF Labs collected more than $25 million in pre-orders,
but does not specify how many individuals that would encompass.


The 2 more Weeks Defence

In a response filed by the defense in that case, BF Labs denied all of the allegations,
blaming the delayed shipping on technical problems that held up manufacturing the
equipment on a commercial scale.


Pssst where are the Monarch's? Are they being delayed because of technical problems that are holding up manufacturing of the Monarch on a commercial scale? Where have we seen this before... oh right 1 year ago and a year before that on the FPGA's? Seems to be a pattern and where there is a pattern there will be evidence. Eventually someone is going to rollover and provide evidence to avoid jail. I am guessing Sonny rolls first and Josh eats the jail time see that is how Sonny escaped the worst of it last time if we all read this thread deep enough I doubt he wants to do another 14 months.

http://openruby.com/bitcoin/pages/6981272-ceo-of-butterfly-labs-is-a-felon-plead-guilty-to-mail-fraud

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109349.msg1206082#msg1206082
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I'll submit my questions for the "town hall" now.

1. Is Sonny Vleisides the BFL employee who signs his emails "Sonny K?" Why the K? Is he intentionally trying to conceal his identity even more than just using V?

2. Did Sonny Vleisides found the company or is he merely an employee? The following quote makes it sounds like he is simply one minor employee:
Quote from: Inaba on September 19, 2012, 10:30:56
...we're a robust company with 22 employees.  One of them has a colorful background in offshore libertarianism.

3. To be clear, is that employee with the "colorful background" Sonny Vleisides? If so, I am not sure "offshore libertarianism" is a fitting euphemism for the crime for which he was convicted. The victim statements in the affidavit posted by blakdawg are incredibly depressing.

4. Of those 22 employees, are any of their names: James Ray Houston, Rex Rogers, Dennis Emmett, William Cloud, Henry Walther, Scott Henry Walther, PJ Swink, or Michael Swink?


"One of them has a colorful background in offshore libertarianism." - Josh

So defrauding people for millions is just a colorful background in offshore libertarianism? The realty is he is a convicted felony and Josh might want to sell him out now before it is too late.
1876  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Novec 7000 Project [immersive evaporating cooling] on: April 19, 2014, 04:19:57 AM
Ya we have to and we are hoping to get it tested in HK at Allied Control.

Our group is not going to rely on Cointerra. LOL. We got some other plans for the variety of chips we already have in or will have in hand soon.

Hammer Whiteface
AM BE200 Whiteface
Minion Whiteface
"R" - Whiteface

Very interesting times indeed.
1877  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 19, 2014, 04:09:11 AM
I am not adverse to risk Raskul. Spondoolies could be the one fab that does do right by our community.

Like Smooth I am seriously considering some SP30's but I am only going to risk what I can afford to lose. Money that if it goes poof. Goes poof.



Far be it from me to think I am able to advise you on your purchases, I'm just happy to see the hashrate spreading out a bit, and well you all know i'm not a big player, which is fine by me, I like the risk, if i'm holding 4BTC in my wallet and the price crashes, I still look to the future.
for me;

BTC4 does not equal $2k
BTC4 = BTC4

and wherever I can spend it, as opposed to trading it, I will. every time.

Good strategy. Look LONG.

Unfortunately we all see the same end game in mining. MASSIVE MINING OPERATIONS... time for the little guys to band together and do the same. Pool Mining is not enough and I dare say a single coin BTC strategy is a waste of resources.
1878  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 19, 2014, 03:55:46 AM
I am not adverse to risk Raskul. Spondoolies could be the one fab that does do right by our community.

Like Smooth I am seriously considering some SP30's but I am only going to risk what I can afford to lose. Money that if it goes poof. Goes poof.

1879  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 19, 2014, 03:46:11 AM


I'm not hounding them to change their policy. They may never change their policy.


Was not directed at you. My post was in general and that is why I only took the important part that is an important lesson for everyone. YOU MUST ASSUME YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR MONEY BUYING HARDWARE OR BTC. You are being polite and to the point more people need to be like you when discussing this with fabricators. Although these discussions always lead to the dead horse variety as people stop listening to each other. Maybe you can email them and get a more detailed response to your questions. Personally after you question it, you get a response if it is not what you like or expect is fair walk away. That is best advice for anyone here. That again is not directed at you Smooth that is just something for those that are more interested in stirring shit than finding answers. The problem in the miner market is there are NOT ENOUGH SpondooliesTech like companies in this market. Smooth I respect your questions. Don't stop, keep pressing.
1880  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech launches a new line of ASIC miners - Best W/GH/s ratio on: April 19, 2014, 03:42:45 AM
You know when the chips should be done.
You know when the chips should get put to board.
You know when the boards should get put into the chassis.
You know when the miners should be tested.
You know who ordered first.
You know how many miners you can produce a day.
You know how to ship the units out.

There is a lot that can go wrong there and that is why there can be uncertainty.

I believe they have revealed that to everyone right?

Where is the inconsistency?
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