To my knowledge there is no other of the shelf miner with all the end-costumer requirements (housing, shiny box, manual, psu etc) available...
There should be one.
Yes there are,quite a few.How about all the USB miners,low hashrate,but they are self contained except for the USB hub.Fairly easy to setup & mine with. BFL's miners would be great...if it weren't for the DELAYS,go ahead & order one right now,post back here when it arrives & the power brick failures,& lack of customer support Also,if customers don't do their RESEARCH on stuff they buy,like how to use an item or power efficiency or cost effectiveness (IE:$ per GH),who's gonna do that for them BFL Before I buy a part for ANY PC I build,I RESEARCH ALL the parts for compatibility,cost,performance,etc.......... Same with cars,motorcycles,boats,household appliances,anything. Are BFL products FCC, EC and ETL approved? Nope.
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Where is that forum post where Inaba says BFL sent the product in for FCC testing and then there is NO RECORD of it ever going to the facility for testing? Oh and hey... look at the Monarch... see the ETL, CE and FCC logos. Think this thing will get tested? Add that to the list. http://www.intertek.com/marks/etl/http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/about-ce-marking/index_en.htmSilkscreening it on a board doesn't mean much if they haven't been tested properly. There have been 0 documents produced from BFL to show they agree to conform or conform to EC, ETL or FCC requirements. Maybe someone could get the testing done independently and then make a complaint. They might then have to recall the units. What is a manufacturer's Declaration of Conformity?
The EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC) is a document in which the manufacturer, or his authorised representative within the European Economic Area (EEA), indicates that the product meets all the necessary requirements laid down in the applicable directives. The DoC must also contain the name and address of the manufacturer along with information about the product, such as the brand and serial number. The DoC must be signed by an individual working for the manufacturer or his/her authorised representative, and the employee's function must also be indicated. Whether a Notified Body has been involved or not, the manufacturer must draw up and sign the EC Declaration of Conformity.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430525.msg4840236#msg4840236Good News Folks...
For those that knuckled under over BFL saying this has been beat to death... The problem is many people knuckle under when someone talks with w/supposed authority and do not follow through...
I just got off the phone with the FCC's technical standards division
Jim Szeliga 301-362-3051
He stated the BFL USB connected devices are PERIPHIALS under FCC law and require "Equipment Authorization" PERIOD no ifs ands or buts That the device until authorized cannot be marketed or sold to anyone in the USA.
WE are referring the case over to the FCC enforcement division today
Class action is 1 step closer....
Anyone want to join me now? I am now interviewing law firms to see who will be best for this case.
Call Jim and ask... They need to get their phone blown up on this. Let him know how much you spent and that you want your money back as well.
George
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Well if you can find a reasonable and stable supply of chips let us know.
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So when is it supposed to ship?
My estimated guess would be 1.5 weeks But they and we won't know exact time frames until the manufacturing begins on Monday and boards start coming back to them for the assembly of the miners. Plan for the worst case. Hope for the best case. Guessing 1.5 weeks is best case.
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I am predicting they start shipping mid feb for that preordered early,i think bfl will get it right from now on as there have the money to higher more staff
Pfffft. Ya hope springs eternal. Very very doubtful this thing will be tested properly and shipped before March.
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Hello,
I was very very lucky and able to purchase 2500 Gridseed ( GC-3355-q64 ) dual mining ASIC chips (Scrypt & SHA-256) and i was trying to find someone who knows a bit more about building a platform that works around these chips. It seems they already have these chips working on a USB stick named DualMiner, and another 5 chip USB miners that ship in 10 & 20 unit packages. So I would definitely be in favor of building a project around a tried and tested system. Please only serious inquiries.
The WPC would be a serious party to get these hashing. Contact me at darin.bicknell@gmail.com.
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How goes the development?
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i dont think its coming.This may be a scam?who knows but i dont like the sound of any of it.loads of scammers out there all asking 14 day wait, all have no real pics,all cheaper than leaders in the market and delivery quicker,all new unheard of companys,.watch out guys and i really hope nobody loses there money.The above has all the hallmarks of a scam.I almost got had over myself with a diffrent company calling there machine the cherry piee lol.
Again proof will be in the pudding. Let us see A1 deliver chips to our doors first. Then see how fast Ntek and others can get working miners out to everyone. Note A1 has their chips in their own hands now for fabrication. When / If Ben T does a review then we can see what is and isn't true here.
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I got a dual miner, and it seems gridseed also makes those 5 chip round things with heatsinks. You need someone to contact them directly I guess. I'd do it, but I don't speak or understand any Chinese (Mandarin, Cantonese, etc.)
I'd like to see those on Wasps and Hives.
Need chips not miners. No point unless someone has a line on the chips. At this point you need a Chinese contact to do that. Who is making these chips? In what quantity? Can we buy them now? Etc etc etc... Given the price as well these miners will not likely be any better than a GPU. If you got CHIPS we have the design. But even then who can make our miners with Gridseed chips not for sale anywhere? Seems more like a dream than anything Dabs. Unless you can find a chip pipeline for the whole community we can't really even consider it. We may have our own Scrypt miner solution but as we posted before that is months away. Again our focus looks to be sha256 and given the Minion delays we would like to make a change for the 40nm Asicminer chip. February onwardsA1's BitMain's BitFury's March onwardsAsicminer 40nm's
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Where is that Monarch you ordered? "The focus is on customer satisfaction with BF Labs and our products," the company said in a statement through its attorney, Jim Humphrey of Polsinelli PC. "And we are disappointed in the filing of the lawsuit. We are taking this issue very seriously, and once we were notified of the lawsuit, we took steps to defend our interests, and we will continue to do so vigorously as we dispute the claims" Laughable.
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The WPC members are bit saddened by this news we were really looking forward to some Minion chips to play with and really push our board design in Feb/Mar. I do think 25% is not nearly enough of an incentive to loyal first batch buyers. That really has to be looked at again by Black Arrow the difficulty is not going to magically flatline more likely that line will shoot vertical again on the Y axis as we see more chips / miners hit the market.
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Any idea of when we can expect your license release? Are any of your prototypes working? Thanks Look at the update just a few posts back gives you general idea where we are. Still waiting on an initial bring up board for the BitFury Wasp. We will release licensing at the same time the gerbers, bom, software, firmware and hardware are working and we will know better on that come the meeting on Saturday. A1/BitMain and BitFury Wasps release would come out nearly together if not together and we are hoping for better news this Saturday. We will post more on Sunday. Thanks! I am already watching this thread so can't wait for more good news LOL Me too. I am not just a WPC member but I am a real fan of the project designers hell any engineers that do this sort of work really so many great ones in our community. The past few months of CAD design hell have really been painful to watch the EE go through and I am sure there are still some gremlins in the mix still to come but it be nice to have the next couple of meetings be all good news.
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Any idea of when we can expect your license release? Are any of your prototypes working? Thanks Look at the update just a few posts back gives you general idea where we are. Still waiting on an initial bring up board for the BitFury Wasp. We will release licensing at the same time the gerbers, bom, software, firmware and hardware are working and we will know better on that come the meeting on Saturday. A1/BitMain and BitFury Wasps release would come out nearly together if not together and we are hoping for better news this Saturday. We will post more on Sunday.
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If you are interested in fabrication and purchasing here in Indonesia contact me I might be interested in doing Wasps & Hive modular miners here with a small group of investors in Jakarta (Indonesia). Full fabrication in Jakarta in late February or March depending on chips available. darin.bicknell@gmail.com
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Sounds like they just delayed Minion to after May 1st, and it doesn't sound competitive with what ASICMiner announced today. As a potential future collective member and/or customer, I'm much more interested in the ASICMiner offering.
We have about 4 or 5 members trying hard to contact FriedCat as soon as the announcement came down. Minion to May 1st not a problem I bet they come up with something that beats the ASICminer 40nm in speed and price but let us see. Where did you get that news about Minion? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294197.msg4832034#msg4832034 Found it. We love watching this competition. Given our design the lower cost of the chip the better for everyone just need chips and specs and we are good to redesign the wasp to work in a very short turnaround. Exciting times.
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Gridseed chips! Where can you buy them? Not seen anything anywhere. Someone else has to give us an hóngbāo with the following. Detailed chip specifications, chips and do that soon if you want to get in the design prototype line we have. Again A1, BitFury and Bitmain first then Minion and looking forward to Asicminer 40nm right after that. Gridseed is only possible if there are chips and specs otherwise no point.
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Happy Lunar New Year. We hope to fill this hóngbāo with gerbers and bom soon in the new year.
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When we get on our bike and start working on the A1 we would like to invite the EE's posting here to meet with our EE's might be good to have a sit down with everyone to discuss things.
A sit down where? ;-) -a[g Our Teamspeak server.
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