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2381  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: {BFL} Bitcoin miners sue Butterfly Labs on: February 01, 2014, 08:31:46 AM
Appears to be in the same place as your December WASp rollout.

Remind me, how many millions of dollars of pre-order funds has WASP collected?

We have collected a lot of sweat equity and some funds from our members to cover all the development costs and we continue to work together with everyone in agreement that it is always working product first and foremost above 'ROLLOUT' or 'PRE-SALES'. It has to be working first and there is no shame in doing things the right way unlike BFL who has continually lied about production / shipping dates to customers. At this point there are no customers for our product and when we do have something working then we can talk about failure to deliver and the appropriate focus on customers and not the customers money like BFL has. When invited to hear our EE's speak the BFL shills didn't bother to come guess they were too busy.

We have taken 0$ or BTC from anyone outside the WPC.

Unlike BFL we are not leveraging the community to make us rich we are trying to do what is right. Product first then sales and delivery or in our case licensing. He might want to also mention the fact we are providing the design as open source hardware.

Funny eh and further why doesn't he want to comment on the LAWSUIT? I wonder why that is? Where is that Monarch you ordered?
2382  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} Jalapeno review on TigerDirect.com on: February 01, 2014, 07:58:57 AM
To my knowledge there is no other of the shelf miner with all the end-costumer requirements (housing, shiny box, manual, psu etc) available...

There should be one.

Yes there are,quite a few.How about all the USB miners,low hashrate,but they are self contained except for the USB hub.Fairly easy to setup & mine with.

BFL's miners would be great...if it weren't for the DELAYS,go ahead & order one right now,post back here when it arrives  Cheesy

& the power brick failures,& lack of customer support  Shocked

Also,if customers don't do their RESEARCH on stuff they buy,like how to use an item or power efficiency or cost effectiveness (IE:$ per GH),who's gonna do that for them Huh BFL Huh

Before I buy a part for ANY PC I build,I RESEARCH ALL the parts for compatibility,cost,performance,etc..........

Same with cars,motorcycles,boats,household appliances,anything.







Are BFL products FCC, EC and ETL approved? Nope.
2383  Economy / Economics / Re: BFL ASIC REFUNDS - Why? NOT FCC APPROVED! Class action? on: February 01, 2014, 05:09:09 AM
Where is that forum post where Inaba says BFL sent the product in for FCC testing and then there is NO RECORD of it ever going to the facility for testing?

Oh and hey... look at the Monarch... see the ETL, CE and FCC logos. Think this thing will get tested? Add that to the list.




http://www.intertek.com/marks/etl/
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/about-ce-marking/index_en.htm

Silkscreening it on a board doesn't mean much if they haven't been tested properly.

There have been 0 documents produced from BFL to show they agree to conform or conform to EC, ETL or FCC requirements. Maybe someone could get the testing done independently and then make a complaint. They might then have to recall the units.

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What is a manufacturer's Declaration of Conformity?

The EU Declaration of Conformity (DoC) is a document in which the manufacturer, or his authorised representative within the European Economic Area (EEA), indicates that the product meets all the necessary requirements laid down in the applicable directives. The DoC must also contain the name and address of the manufacturer along with information about the product, such as the brand and serial number. The DoC must be signed by an individual working for the manufacturer or his/her authorised representative, and the employee's function must also be indicated. Whether a Notified Body has been involved or not, the manufacturer must draw up and sign the EC Declaration of Conformity.
2384  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. on: February 01, 2014, 05:07:50 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430525.msg4840236#msg4840236

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Good News Folks...

For those that knuckled under over BFL saying this has been beat to death... The problem is many people knuckle under when someone talks with w/supposed authority and do not follow through...

I just got off the phone with the FCC's technical standards division

Jim Szeliga
301-362-3051

He stated the BFL USB connected devices are PERIPHIALS under FCC law and require "Equipment Authorization" PERIOD no ifs ands or buts That the device until authorized cannot be marketed or sold to anyone in the USA.

WE are referring the case over to the FCC enforcement division today

Class action is 1 step closer....

Anyone want to join me now? I am now interviewing law firms to see who will be best for this case.

Call Jim and ask... They need to get their phone blown up on this. Let him know how much you spent and that you want your money back as well.

George
2385  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: February 01, 2014, 04:59:10 AM
Well if you can find a reasonable and stable supply of chips let us know.
2386  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ntek 1.2th/s miner? on: February 01, 2014, 04:34:03 AM
So when is it supposed to ship?

My estimated guess would be 1.5  weeks

But they and we  won't know exact time frames until the manufacturing begins on Monday and boards start coming back to them for the assembly of the miners.

Plan for the worst case. Hope for the best case. Guessing 1.5 weeks is best case.
2387  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BFL Monarch - Delivery Dates on: February 01, 2014, 04:03:45 AM
I am predicting they start shipping mid feb for that preordered early,i think bfl will get it right from now on as there have the money to higher more staff

Pfffft.

Ya hope springs eternal.

Very very doubtful this thing will be tested properly and shipped before March.
2388  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: LOOKING FOR PARTNER(S) TO BUILD GRIDCHIP (LTC & BTC) MINING HARDWARE on: February 01, 2014, 03:54:02 AM
Hello,

I was very very lucky and able to purchase 2500 Gridseed ( GC-3355-q64 ) dual mining ASIC chips (Scrypt & SHA-256) and i was trying to find someone who knows a bit more about building a platform that works around these chips.  It seems they already have these chips working on a USB stick named DualMiner, and another 5 chip USB miners that ship in 10 & 20 unit packages.  So I would definitely be in favor of building a project around a tried and tested system.  Please only serious inquiries.

The WPC would be a serious party to get these hashing.

Contact me at darin.bicknell@gmail.com.
2389  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [In Talks] Klondike Mining Collective - Toronto, Ontario Mining Facility on: February 01, 2014, 03:20:41 AM
How goes the development?

2390  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ntek 1.2th/s miner? on: January 31, 2014, 04:08:03 AM
i dont think its coming.This may be a scam?who knows but i dont like the sound of any of it.loads of scammers out there all asking 14 day wait, all have no real pics,all cheaper than leaders in the market and delivery quicker,all new unheard of companys,.watch out guys and i really hope nobody loses there money.The above has all the hallmarks of a scam.I almost got had over myself with a diffrent company calling there machine the cherry piee lol.

Again proof will be in the pudding.

Let us see A1 deliver chips to our doors first. Then see how fast Ntek and others can get working miners out to everyone. Note A1 has their chips in their own hands now for fabrication. When / If Ben T does a review then we can see what is and isn't true here.
2391  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. on: January 31, 2014, 04:05:04 AM
Did the glue hold?
2392  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 31, 2014, 03:34:34 AM
I got a dual miner, and it seems gridseed also makes those 5 chip round things with heatsinks. You need someone to contact them directly I guess. I'd do it, but I don't speak or understand any Chinese (Mandarin, Cantonese, etc.)

I'd like to see those on Wasps and Hives.

Need chips not miners. No point unless someone has a line on the chips. At this point you need a Chinese contact to do that. Who is making these chips? In what quantity? Can we buy them now? Etc etc etc... Given the price as well these miners will not likely be any better than a GPU. If you got CHIPS we have the design. But even then who can make our miners with Gridseed chips not for sale anywhere? Seems more like a dream than anything Dabs. Unless you can find a chip pipeline for the whole community we can't really even consider it. We may have our own Scrypt miner solution but as we posted before that is months away.

Again our focus looks to be sha256 and given the Minion delays we would like to make a change for the 40nm Asicminer chip.

February onwards

A1's
BitMain's
BitFury's

March onwards

Asicminer 40nm's

2393  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: {BFL} Bitcoin miners sue Butterfly Labs on: January 31, 2014, 03:28:36 AM
Where is that Monarch you ordered?


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"The focus is on customer satisfaction with BF Labs and our products," the company said in a statement through its attorney, Jim Humphrey of Polsinelli PC. "And we are disappointed in the filing of the lawsuit. We are taking this issue very seriously, and once we were notified of the lawsuit, we took steps to defend our interests, and we will continue to do so vigorously as we dispute the claims"


Laughable.

2394  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.99/GH/s, miners from $2.97/GH/s on: January 30, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
The WPC members are bit saddened by this news we were really looking forward to some Minion chips to play with and really push our board design in Feb/Mar. I do think 25% is not nearly enough of an incentive to loyal first batch buyers. That really has to be looked at again by Black Arrow the difficulty is not going to magically flatline more likely that line will shoot vertical again on the Y axis as we see more chips / miners hit the market.
2395  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 30, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
Any idea of when we can expect your license release?Huh

Are any of your prototypes working?

Thanks Smiley

Look at the update just a few posts back gives you general idea where we are. Still waiting on an initial bring up board for the BitFury Wasp.

We will release licensing at the same time the gerbers, bom, software, firmware and hardware are working and we will know better on that come the meeting on Saturday.

A1/BitMain and BitFury Wasps release would come out nearly together if not together and we are hoping for better news this Saturday. We will post more on Sunday.

Thanks!

I am already watching this thread so can't wait for more good news Smiley

LOL Cheesy Me too. I am not just a WPC member but I am a real fan of the project designers hell any engineers that do this sort of work really so many great ones in our community. The past few months of CAD design hell have really been painful to watch the EE go through and I am sure there are still some gremlins in the mix still to come but it be nice to have the next couple of meetings be all good news.
2396  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 30, 2014, 03:46:38 PM
Any idea of when we can expect your license release?Huh

Are any of your prototypes working?

Thanks Smiley

Look at the update just a few posts back gives you general idea where we are. Still waiting on an initial bring up board for the BitFury Wasp.

We will release licensing at the same time the gerbers, bom, software, firmware and hardware are working and we will know better on that come the meeting on Saturday.

A1/BitMain and BitFury Wasps release would come out nearly together if not together and we are hoping for better news this Saturday. We will post more on Sunday.
2397  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Hardware seller in Indonesia on: January 30, 2014, 09:05:47 AM
If you are interested in fabrication and purchasing here in Indonesia contact me I might be interested in doing Wasps & Hive modular miners here with a small group of investors in Jakarta (Indonesia). Full fabrication in Jakarta in late February or March depending on chips available.

darin.bicknell@gmail.com
2398  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 30, 2014, 06:00:19 AM
Sounds like they just delayed Minion to after May 1st, and it doesn't sound competitive with what ASICMiner announced today. As a potential future collective member and/or customer, I'm much more interested in the ASICMiner offering.

We have about 4 or 5 members trying hard to contact FriedCat as soon as the announcement came down. Minion to May 1st not a problem I bet they come up with something that beats the ASICminer 40nm in speed and price but let us see. Where did you get that news about Minion? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294197.msg4832034#msg4832034 Found it.

We love watching this competition. Given our design the lower cost of the chip the better for everyone just need chips and specs and we are good to redesign the wasp to work in a very short turnaround. Exciting times.
2399  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 30, 2014, 05:29:18 AM
Gridseed chips! Smiley

Where can you buy them? Not seen anything anywhere. Someone else has to give us an hˇngbāo with the following. Detailed chip specifications, chips and do that soon if you want to get in the design prototype line we have. Again A1, BitFury and Bitmain first then Minion and looking forward to Asicminer 40nm right after that. Gridseed is only possible if there are chips and specs otherwise no point.
2400  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 30, 2014, 05:19:00 AM


Happy Lunar New Year.

We hope to fill this hˇngbāo with gerbers and bom soon in the new year.
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