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Author Topic: PhoenixMiner 6.2c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)  (Read 785869 times)
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March 11, 2018, 07:35:33 AM
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I'm on W10PRO, latest drivers, etc... everything uptodate.
Of course I tried to lower OC and so on, without success.  

What's in common with those 2 RIGS: having RX580 NITRO+ with HYNIX memory  (1st rig with 12 of those cards, the others with 6 of them + 6 GTX).  

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Well I am on Win10 1709 and my Rig has 13 RX580. Running at total 398 mh/s on ETH/nanopool flawlessly.

Please enlighten me on how it is you were able to break the 8 AMD GPU barrier in Windows 10? Huh Huh

Since months now the 8 AMD GPU barrier does not more exist....  you can plug 13 of them without any trouble!  Smiley
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March 11, 2018, 07:46:58 AM
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Tested the newest Claymore, it gives 0.1-0.2MH/s more per RX card compared to Phoenix, possibly because of the intensity auto-tuning. ASM 2 gives further 0.2 per card as well.
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March 11, 2018, 08:22:53 AM
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I'm on W10PRO, latest drivers, etc... everything uptodate.
Of course I tried to lower OC and so on, without success.  

What's in common with those 2 RIGS: having RX580 NITRO+ with HYNIX memory  (1st rig with 12 of those cards, the others with 6 of them + 6 GTX).  

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Well I am on Win10 1709 and my Rig has 13 RX580. Running at total 398 mh/s on ETH/nanopool flawlessly.

Please enlighten me on how it is you were able to break the 8 AMD GPU barrier in Windows 10? Huh Huh

There is no such thing as a barrier in WIN10. That used to be implemented in the drivers. You need upto date win10 (1709), latest AMD drivers (18.2.3 Feb. 2018) - install ONLY driver!, compute mode switcher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815803.0), a max number of 13 similar cards and a mainboard with enough PCIE slots. Then you're good to go. My rig with 13 cards works flawlessly and the output is close to 400 mh/s on ETH/nanopool. no probs at all.

The 13 card barrier is because of the BIOS of my mainboard (Asus B250 expert mining). Power draw on the wall is 1750 watt for the rig including monitor (my rig is like an open cube built with aluminum profiles, with wheels and inside with 3 rows of cards on top of each other).
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March 11, 2018, 08:52:20 AM
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A bit more fast claymore 11.3 now
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March 11, 2018, 09:12:46 AM
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A bit more fast claymore 11.3 now

So the Calymore 11.3 is faster than the 2.7C?
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March 11, 2018, 09:22:49 AM
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A bit more fast claymore 11.3 now

So the Calymore 11.3 is faster than the 2.7C?

Sure, Rig with 8 rx580 : Phoenix 2.7c 245,4 mh/s and Clay 11.3 246,1
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March 11, 2018, 09:58:46 AM
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A bit more fast claymore 11.3 now

So the Calymore 11.3 is faster than the 2.7C?

Sure, Rig with 8 rx580 : Phoenix 2.7c 245,4 mh/s and Clay 11.3 246,1


It means Claymore 11.3 about 0.285 % faster than Phoenix 2.7c. But if you deduct that 0.285% with 0.35% (Phoenix's fee only 0.65% compare to Claymore's 1% fee), then you get (minus) -0.065%.
Still prefer Phoenix.  Smiley
Btw; on my GTX 1070 Ti, Phoenix 2.7c still around 0.74% faster than Claymore 11.3. If you add that 0.74% with 0.35%, you get around (plus) 1%.
Still prefer Phoenix.  Smiley
Just my test and dumb calculation.  Smiley
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March 11, 2018, 10:08:39 AM
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Hi developers PhoenixMiner! Is it possible to implement the function of switching between the primary and backup pool in time? for example every 2 hours to switch for 30 minutes to another pool with another purse?
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March 11, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
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Please add Mix Coin to your available coins under the -coin feature.  Thank you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2807568.0
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March 11, 2018, 02:12:16 PM
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Hi developers PhoenixMiner! Is it possible to implement the function of switching between the primary and backup pool in time? for example every 2 hours to switch for 30 minutes to another pool with another purse?

It would be very easy to implement it using batch or powershell. Run first command line, set a timer to kill the process, run the second command line, set a second timer, repeat.
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March 11, 2018, 05:03:41 PM
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There is no such thing as a barrier in WIN10. That used to be implemented in the drivers. You need upto date win10 (1709), latest AMD drivers (18.2.3 Feb. 2018) - install ONLY driver!, compute mode switcher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2815803.0), a max number of 13 similar cards and a mainboard with enough PCIE slots. Then you're good to go. My rig with 13 cards works flawlessly and the output is close to 400 mh/s on ETH/nanopool. no probs at all.

The 13 card barrier is because of the BIOS of my mainboard (Asus B250 expert mining). Power draw on the wall is 1750 watt for the rig including monitor (my rig is like an open cube built with aluminum profiles, with wheels and inside with 3 rows of cards on top of each other).

So after reading through everything, it would appear the problem lies with the AMD driver. I am using the AMD blockchain driver, and apparently that will not work with more than 8 GPUs (cause Windows to not boot up, kind of dumb given that mining is the only reason why multiple GPUs are needed in the first place.). Guess I have to uninstall the AMD blockchain driver and re-install the 18.3.1 (there is no 18.2.3, it goes from 12.8.1 to 12.3.1)standard driver (and switch to compute), and see if this works.
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March 11, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
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You are right. Sorry, I have 18.3.1 installed. Yes the old Blockchain driver has the 8 card limit which the drivers from 18. onwards don't have.
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March 11, 2018, 06:31:59 PM
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48Hs mining and counting with 2.7C, average speed for the last 24H is 88.1MH/s (from pool) while using the computer (web, music, videos...) from time to time.
89.1MH/s since the start of these 48Hs.

GPUs are 3X RX570 4GB.
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March 11, 2018, 08:49:00 PM
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A bit more fast claymore 11.3 now

So the Calymore 11.3 is faster than the 2.7C?

Sure, Rig with 8 rx580 : Phoenix 2.7c 245,4 mh/s and Clay 11.3 246,1

faster yes, but I am getting more stale shares. CPU usage has reduced considerably.

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March 12, 2018, 01:23:37 AM
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Here is a summery based on my test (8xRX580 8GB):

PhoenixMiner                   Claymore
228MH/s                              225MH/s                       Adv Phoenix
0.65%  Devfee                     1-1.5% Devfee              Adv Phoenix
Stability                                                                   Adv Pheonix
Power consumption                                                  Adv Claymore
Fan control                                                              Adv Claymore
Userbase                                                                 Adv Calymore

These are the most pertinent parameters impacting the bottom line.
Feel free to add more. Hope this helps people to decide.           
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March 12, 2018, 02:44:54 AM
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Here is a summery based on my test (8xRX580 8GB):

PhoenixMiner                   Claymore
228MH/s                              225MH/s                       Adv Phoenix
0.65%  Devfee                     1-1.5% Devfee              Adv Phoenix
Stability                                                                   Adv Pheonix
Power consumption                                                  Adv Claymore
Fan control                                                              Adv Claymore
Userbase                                                                 Adv Calymore

These are the most pertinent parameters impacting the bottom line.
Feel free to add more. Hope this helps people to decide.           

Power consumption seems to be the same.

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March 12, 2018, 05:01:34 AM
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What about dual mining? A you going to add second coin?
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March 12, 2018, 05:02:51 AM
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Here is a summery based on my test (8xRX580 8GB):

PhoenixMiner                   Claymore
228MH/s                              225MH/s                       Adv Phoenix
0.65%  Devfee                     1-1.5% Devfee              Adv Phoenix
Stability                                                                   Adv Pheonix
Power consumption                                                  Adv Claymore
Fan control                                                              Adv Claymore
Userbase                                                                 Adv Calymore

These are the most pertinent parameters impacting the bottom line.
Feel free to add more. Hope this helps people to decide.           

Power consumption seems to be the same.
Speed and Power consumption - same for both
Stability - Phoenix crashes one random GPU on each rig - whereas Claymore is steady with no change in OC
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March 12, 2018, 06:23:31 AM
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Can anyone help me with this?

2.7c Ive been running this since it came out and Ive noticed slowly my mining rate is going down and down over the weeks. yet in someways the speed has either gone up or at least stayed the same - the amount mined in a week is going down.  i have a pair of 1080ti's

as an example:

https://imgur.com/4NUafKn.jpg
    The graph here is from ethermine.org and is for the last 24 hours. These are within the normal variations for a 24-hour period. However the amount mined per week (or whatever time period you want) doesn't depend only on hasrate but also on the difficulty, which is climbing as more and more mining rigs are added to the network.

Claymore 11.3 recently introduced a custom RX550 asm kernel
now I see this:

   We also ordered an RX550 so there will be optimized kernels for it in the next release.

coincidence ?
   You should ask Claymore about this. We are responding to a perfectly reasonable complaint that our miner doesn't support RX550 with optimized kernels, which you can see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2647654.msg31697743#msg31697743


I have been testing this miner and so far it looks pretty stable in all fronts except fan settings which claymore still has the upper hand, for example -tt 60 -fanmax 90 on claymore works flawless, on this example, the miner will keep 90% fan speed until it hits 60c but it does not work like this on this miner. I wonder why.
    Could you tell us what version of AMD drivers you are using and what behavior of the fans you are observing? We definitely can and will make improvements in the hardware control options but we need more information to troubleshoot any problems.


+1 for linux version.

Please PM me if you have beta version so I can work on implementation within nvOC and do some preliminary tests before implementing it in the next version of nvOC.

Thanks!
    We will definitely do that. However we aren't there yet.


Please add Mix Coin to your available coins under the -coin feature.  Thank you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2807568.0
    We'll try to squeeze this in the next full release.


Hi developers PhoenixMiner! Is it possible to implement the function of switching between the primary and backup pool in time? for example every 2 hours to switch for 30 minutes to another pool with another purse?

It would be very easy to implement it using batch or powershell. Run first command line, set a timer to kill the process, run the second command line, set a second timer, repeat.
   You don't even need to kill the process, you can use the -timeout <n> option in combination with -rmode 0 to force the miner to shutdown after n minutes.

What about dual mining? A you going to add second coin?
   Yes, but no specifics on when and what algorithms will be supported.

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March 12, 2018, 06:39:00 AM
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    Could you tell us what version of AMD drivers you are using and what behavior of the fans you are observing? We definitely can and will make improvements in the hardware control options but we need more information to troubleshoot any problems.

Blockchain 23 august 2017, it works like this -tt 60 -fanmin 85 -fanmax 85 -tmax 80, the problem about this is the fan will never be silent if the miner is not mining cause the min is 85%. On claymore you just need 2 commands to work -tt 60 -fanmax 85 cause as the fans will be at full speed since beginning to reach the 60c temp, once the fan reaches 60c then it lowers decrease the fan speed if less than 60c. So claymore is better in that sense.

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