PhoenixMiner 6.2c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)

[vertti]

The new driver is out forr NVDIA GTX 1xxxx series 391.24 today , should provide some speed increase as well,
please try it people .This is good! .phoenix make 2.8b with dual mining please...

Why do you think it would provide speed increase? The release notes mention nothing that would suggest that.

[playfast]

Tried Phoenix and tweaked it best I could for my rx560.
Adding -mi 11 and -gt 34 maxes out my hash, ~0.1 mh/s better on average than my best tweaked Claymore.
Best improvement over Claymore was that I could underclock my core significantly more, 40 Mhz lower without losing max hash. Max stable mem clock was the same. I get noticeably less stale shares with Phoenix which is also a nice benefit so I have switched from Claymore permanently.

[aurus33]

HI, is there an option to have my rig reboot i the speed drops below a set point?

I see that you can restart the miner but i want to restart the rig.

thanks, Robin

I use the combination of the following:

If speeds drops below specified speed, do what's on -rmode flag
-minRigSpeed 160

1: Restart miner, 2: shudown miner and execute reboot.bat
-rmode 2

my reboot.bat has

shutdown.exe /r /t 00

Hope it helps!

[playfast]

Surprised that very few in this thread have discussed playing with the graphics tuning -gt
In all likelihood the default of 15 is not optimal for most cards, you guys are definitely leaving some hash on the table.

[UnclWish]

Tried Phoenix and tweaked it best I could for my rx560.
Adding -mi 11 and -gt 34 maxes out my hash, ~0.1 mh/s better on average than my best tweaked Claymore.
Best improvement over Claymore was that I could underclock my core significantly more, 40 Mhz lower without losing max hash. Max stable mem clock was the same. I get noticeably less stale shares with Phoenix which is also a nice benefit so I have switched from Claymore permanently.

Did you tuned -dcri option in Claymore? On different versions of Claymore's miner optimal dcri value changes. I tuned them on Claymore 11.0 and didn't touched them on 11.3-11.5 versions. Speed stays the same on all versions. Then I tried to play with dcri volume with help "+" and "-" keys and find new best dcri volume that gives me more speed. More than Phoenix with -mi 12.

[UnclWish]

Surprised that very few in this thread have discussed playing with the graphics tuning -gt
In all likelihood the default of 15 is not optimal for most cards, you guys are definitely leaving some hash on the table.

For my RX 580 8Gb cards -gt 15 (default) is the best vaule. Any changes lower the speed.

[janding]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

[gsrcrxsi314]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

[Iamtutut]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

Phoenix + anorak.tech eth pool = 0 (I mean NONE) stale share in 28hs.
Pool is here: https://eth.anorak.tech/#/

For the last week, I had more and more stale shares on ethermine eur SSL pool.

[janding]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

[UnclWish]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

[janding]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

[UnclWish]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

How you reached more speed on Phoenix? For me on my RX 580 8Gb cards Claymore gives about 0,5% more with right dcri tune.

[janding]

@PhoenixMiner

I really like the stability and the speed, here it comes, but,
The stale share rate is really bad.
I have all AMD cards, on another miner I get <1 % stale shares.
PhoenixMiner gets 5% to 10% stale shares.

This really needs to be looked at. The additional hash rate that I get using Phoenix is eaten up
with stale shares. I'm loosing .35% of 5 to 10% of all the shares submitted.

I know this can be solved, I've seen it solved elsewhere.

thanks

something wrong with your setup. im using pheonix and get like 1% stales.

it's not the miner.

Sorry dude. nothing wrong with my miner.
You don't know what you're talking about.

I can change to Claymore with EXACTLY SAME SETTINGS.
I get < 1% stale.
Change to Phonex and I get between 5 and 10%.
So, buzz off and let the experts address this.
I didn't ask for amateur help.

5 to 10% is very high... I have with Claymore <1%. With Phoenix 1,5-3%...
I think that this is because of memory timings. Phoenix use memory another way...

Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

How you reached more speed on Phoenix? For me on my RX 580 8Gb cards Claymore gives about 0,5% more with right dcri tune.

I can't explain why Phoenix is faster. I don't know technically what they have done.
I also have all RX 580's a few are 4gb and some are 8gb. 6 of them.
I had 182.5 mh/s on Claymore. I got 186.2 on Phoenix, without any memory errors or crashes.
But to try to attempt to get the stale shares down I'm now at the same speed as Claymore but with
a much higher stale share rate.

I guess every rig is somewhat different even with the same type cards.
If Phoenix could get the same stale rate and offer me 4 mh/s more than Claymore why would I ever
go back to Claymore.

[gambera]

Very possible.
I can lower the stale shares some by reducing the intensity.
I can get it around 2 to 5% if I give up hash rate.
But that negates the extra speed that Phoenix gives me.
My issue is if I get the higher hashes that Phoenix offers the stale shares goes up.

I had about 4 to 8% on Claymore before the 11.4 release.
They claimed they fixed the stale share issue. And man did they. I immediately went
to < 1% without doing any adjusting.

So, I know it can be done.
I want the increased speed that Phoenix offers and the very low stale shares.
If I get the same hash rate on Phoenix and Claymore but Claymore stale rate is <1 % and Phoenix
is 2 to 5% I'm better off going to Claymore. I had rather use Phoenix if they can address this issue.

Interesting. I've been using Phoenix for more than a month now and I get 1-2% stales on miner and 4-5% at ethermine no matter of low or high intensity or -gt.
I've tried 2.6, 2.7a and 2.7c.

I tried Claymore 11.0 with the same % stales at pool. I don't like how I get disconnected from pool when devfee stops, Claymore that is. Haven't tried any other version yet.

My rig gets ~186 Mhs with phoenix and ~182 with Claymore.

It's worth mentioning that 3 of my RX580 have custom vBIOS for mining ETH, the rest are stock.

So, I don't know if it's my setup, two miners or the pool. Average accepted share to pool is 65 ms, which is not that bad.

[opeth2112]

Is there a guide somewhere for exactly how the -gt option affects things?  What does it make changes to, and to what degree?

Thanks for the work!

[nvidiademon]

Just gotta say Phoenix Miner is really impressive.  Made the switch from being a long time Claymore user.  11.5 was great but I have been able to hold solid gains with Phoenix and it is just WAY more stable at higher overclocks.  8 Nvidia 1070 ti's can get hold just below 33 MH/s AVERAGE.  So it dips in the mid 33.5 MH/s-ish at times!  The most I could hold was just below 32 each with claymore not shutting down with a Hang.  Thanks so much to the creator.  I heard positive things from following this thread from afar.  Glad I made the switch.  Keep up the good work!  Cheers

[nitrobg]

Can you implement Claymore's auto tuning for best intensity per card?

[timbojames]

Ive been trying PM 2.7c on a standalone desktop with R9 390 8GB (XFX).  I know this miner is focused on RX cards (which I have many of) but I have a fair number of R9 390s and I'm having a lot of hardware control problems.

I'm getting 'failure to set -tt error -1', but setting a static fan speed works.  However, the fan speed sticks even after I close the miner.  Similarly, my clocks and voltages will set (watching in GPU-Z), but they won't reset when the miner closes.  This is a big problem since when I try to launch a second time, it seems like a negative voltage offset stacks with the first and I get BSOD, driver crash, etc.  Regardless, I pretty much have to reboot to get it to start 'fresh'.  It definitely seems faster when I can get it to run, but I have some machines that need to start and stop on demand.

MSI AB works for all my hardware settings, but I really would like the miner to handle it all and go back to stock settings when it stops.  I have a few standalone desktops with one or two GPUs that I actually use and I like them to mine when idle (scheduled task) and stop when I sit down.  I also have one dedicated rig that I run on a schedule to control heat midday.  I've been running ethminer like this; scheduled task based on idle or time.  I was about to jump to Claymore on my idle use machines simply because of the hardware control features (which ethminer lacks) so I don't have to keep switching MSI AB profiles, and that's when I discovered PhoenixMiner.

I'm just curious if these hardware control issues may be on my end or are a known issue with R9 series cards.  I have tried 3 drivers in the 18 series, but I haven't gone back to 17.  I've tried it with MSI AB reset to defaults, MSI AB completely uninstalled, AMD settings running and AMD settings not-running.  I've lowered mining intensity and slowed DAG generation and all that, but the crashes really seem to be due to ridiculously low voltages on the second run of the miner, like PM is trying to stack a negative offset each time.  Bottom line is PM doesn't release the hardware settings when it closes, at least it doesn't on this GPU and I feel like that's where my problems are coming from.  I can run PM, close it, then run something like FurMark and all my clocks and voltages are still stuck on the PM settings.

I don't mean to sound high maintenance, just want to figure this out.  If it's a known issue, hopefully it's one that will get fixed, but no big deal.  Any input would be appreciated.

[murgorx]

Is anyone else also having a really smaller hashrate in comparison with, for example, last week? I've been mining and for the last 48 hours my hashrate at the ethermine pool has been 140mh/s ?! The local miner is showing constantly 30.5mh/s on all 5 cards? Is there a global hashrate drop or is it just the pool?