Official Thread: AMT

[AMT_miners]

In kind, we'll counter with the following.

We're offering a 20btc bounty to bring Phinnaeus Gage to our office, along with his account here on bitcointalk.

Looking forward to seeing this bounty paid up.

We'll never pay Bruno anything, because as he has already demonstrated he will continue to do this crap over and over. Allowing him to walk out with a a soon to be overheated miner was us being courteous. As he continues to rant and rave, we'll just take things to the next level.

[AMT_miners]

I don't care if clennell is right, all I know is that he is annoying as fuck.

Personally I hope AMT sues him. Because then at least josh will end up in the court room. ( I can't say on the stand or people start saying shit about law and order)
Then he will have to have the things he says sworn under oath.

I'm wondering if those records could be subpoenaed for any other pending court cases. I know there are a few of you out there with lawyers already.

Can't tell if that's supportive or offensive, but yea thanks.

[AMT_miners]

I just can not belive what i am reading:)
PSU POWER ISSUES LOAD OF HOME WIRES....

Well, 10x boards would be about 1800w-2200w at the wall, which is why KNC's miners will not run on home-wires only rated for 1400w constant-load at 120v.

If I only had one miner, with 6x boards, that would put it at 1000w-1200w range.

No way 1500 range at least. And you do realize why 6 boards on a single psu is total bulshit despite all of amt promises
And a lot of other things also.
My personal feeling about the situation that amt will do whatever it takes to postpone the crap delivery. When they know that it can not pay off for the electricity they will deliver something at the end.And be prepared to have a total hanging crap if this gets delivered at all.
Do you have a single reasonable explanation why they keep the top secret if this crap is working at all or what is the actual power consumption or and so on and on

Loshia, 5 boards run on a 1500w psu, what makes you think 6 boards can't run on a Lepa 1600 watt psu?

The power consumption has been 0.9 - 1.12 per ghs for the last month.

[RickJamesBTC]

In kind, we'll counter with the following.

We're offering a 20btc bounty to bring Phinnaeus Gage to our office, along with his account here on bitcointalk.

Looking forward to seeing this bounty paid up.

We'll never pay Bruno anything, because as he has already demonstrated he will continue to do this crap over and over. Allowing him to walk out with a a soon to be overheated miner was us being courteous. As he continues to rant and rave, we'll just take things to the next level.

OMG...

Yes people, if you get a miner from AMT, it will soon overheat.


So fucking dumb.

[AMT_miners]

puppet master = the string puller in behind the operations and campaigns the member using the fact he has to go back to play the war games his puppet master has set. its not josh's fault this has happened but obamas or whom ever it is behind the campaigns or the users fault for being in the army. josh is guilty of delivering late due to set backs.

amt is a new start up company so inherent issues with time frames work force delivery's from suppliers misguided delivery dates money flow issues refunds!(spending all money gained in the PRE-ORDER state to fund the making of the miner) so you cant feasibly have a refund because your initial money wasn't there.

yes he said x many weeks but then all it takes is one set back say i dunno a week on chips for him to be a week behind then after receiving these chips putting them together which took an extra day or two than expected because hes short of 1/2 workers in hind sight maybe needed more workers so now hes a week and a half behind then after running the chips finds the heat sinks are not to scratch or just don't fit that's another week in the shop to fix this now 2.5 week behind then the cases he chose/got were not good enough so another week at a fabricators fixing the issues now 3.5 weeks behind now he has the cage/case sorted and the heat-sink issues sorted and the rest of it sussed hes approx 4 weeks behind...... i ordered in January with the expected delivery date of 29th march which was yesterday but it felt like iv been waiting a lot longer due to the lack of email communication/thread communication and after receiving a reply from someone stating it will be with you next week but not being here i was frustrated and clean out forgot yesterday was my dispatch date so i started raging here and in emails (not the best idea) now i use bfl as an example not in direct comparison if i ordered in the last week of january from bfl i would be waiting at least until the back end of July/beginning of august before my miner was assembled and shipped the only difference here is josh gave a very under estimated 8 week wait going on the best case scenario and not working from a worst case scenario. from what i have read from this post well amts stuff cutting out all the chaff hes had issues he acknowledges this and is trying to sort it out but having to come on here and go through say 15 pages a day of crud slander and slating by some customers and also none customers and having to search for the real concerns of a customer from the heres his face with some words heres his address heres where he went to school sue him sue him heres his car outside his house and what ever gets trolled out on here from the maybe 1 line question from a customer or even say me  coming on ad not had a look for 10 hrs to find 15 pages of shite to 2 posts that i am interested in from josh stating something about the miner its power or just a hey guys im 3 weeks behind miners ship soon i cant see it from the crud.

alls im saying really is stop with the same old shite day in day out like wheres my miner can i see pics why don't you answer lets sue him lets go burn down his warehouse lets visit him at home kkk style send him personal mail blah blah blah. and do what a companies official thread should do and try support the guy. it must be very depressing to wake up at 8am go to the office listen to 1000 voice mails from the last ten minutes of customers screaming words that make no sense reading through the vast tidal wave of emails that he receives trying to sort out the legitimate concerns from the fake spam he more than likely gets and then working a 10 hr shift building miners for customers that seem to not even care less about his situation atm. and then when he gets home he has this place to sift through more emails from the day and possibly 5 minutes for his wife and kids before he runs out of red bull passes out and wakes up at 8 am forgetting what the hell he was doing sinking an espresso and more red bull on his way to the office. i am one customer of many that is waiting for results but i find results herd to see materializing when the guys got so many things to do not included in the build process.

there is one way all this could be avoided and that's a closed forum or thread in which only customers receive the info to actually log in a place where there isn't 200+pages 15% of which are actually relevant to the company the rest are just the same questions over and over again and that way josh or representative could log in on an evening update a page with order numbers and pictures of miners in build or shipping areas ready to go and it wouldn't be missed a section in which he could look for alternative suppliers or ideas on how to package the kit a real community effort.

just to sumerise i ordered in January my miner is now approximately 1 day late in shipping given the setbacks i see a fesable delivery date of next week to two weeks from now if all goes well. pick at my spelling pick at my use of English do what ever you wish to degrade the words i use just because you wouldn't use it but it doesn't detract from the fact there is too much on this page on a daily basis to keep up with.

This guy nailed it. Thank you.

[AMT_miners]

You (anyone as well) have enough to work with.

Did he actually show you a cease and desist request and not let you keep it? Or do you have a copy of it you can share.

If he does not have a copy of it in hand they did not serve him. He also has to sign for it officially. There is a process. If that did not happen a court cannot honor it.

He looked at it, and there were witnesses, it's enough. Ad we have recorded the majority of the conversation as well. Should be enough to sue for damages of business and a few other fun things. But we're considering going a different route in the mean time.

[AMT_miners]

For anyone interested, BMch has the A1 data sheet and a 2-chip reference pcb files & BOM up on Github https://github.com/bitmine-ch/bitmine

That reminds me if anyone is interested in 200 bare boards for the 2 chip board we have them and are not using them. Say $5 a board. Made at PNC in jersey.

[AMT_miners]

Holy crap, josh is really bored to keep making these troll accounts. He should just work on miners and answers.

That wasn't us btw.

[AMT_miners]

Hi All,   (updated 2/1/2014)

We're Advanced Mining Technologies and we're located in Haverford, PA.

We design, build, assemble and ship Asic miners. We've worked with Bitfury, Avalon, and now the coincraft A1 chip for our terrahash miners.

We accept most forms of payment. Local pickup is an option for sure. Our pricing vs lead time is the best in the industry. We're real and when you call the office someone usually picks up.

Below are some key factors that separate us from most other asic manufacturers.

1. We've actually shipped miners and have been doing so since November 2013.
2. We speak to our customers directly and we are trying to improve our customer service everyday.
3. You can find our products on Amazon and buy them with a credit card.
4. We're American and proud to build our miners in America and not China.
5. We deliver on time if the situation is in our immediate control.
6. We take checks, and all forms of checks too, even personal.
7. We offer customer support for guys that are just starting in the mining industry.
8. Our hardware is built to be upgradable, you can add more GH/s to each of our machines accept the 80ghs (as of now).
9. We're in this for the long haul and we've filed with the IRS.
10. We don't mine.

We are working very hard, and we're usually over tired and kinda out there, but your free to come see us at our administrative office anytime you'd like. We are located at:
355 lancaster Ave, Bldg E1, Haverford, PA 19041.  If your coming from  downtown Philly or I95, take 476 to cityline ave and then after a few miles make a right on Lancaster.

To newbies:  There are a lot of scams out there, please take your time and evaluate each seller/company/manufacturer before buying. Even if the deal seems great or the buying opportunity seems to be limited.

There are a few decent companies in America, and a few decent companies in Europe that actually sell, build and ship miners, but most foreign companies are  complete scams.



 

ANNY really big news inc or updates in hardware crafting ?

What are you looking for exactly? Something specific or just where we are at in general?

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I wonder if these accounts are AMT. And if so I wonder if this is what they meant by going on the offensive.

Probably, but I now have the ball, and Josh, et al. can't figure out if they're on a field, court, or in a stadium. Hell, he thinks he has home field advantage and the crowd is rooting him on.

So far, nobody, and I mean nobody, has approached his cheerleader.

[RickJamesBTC]

You (anyone as well) have enough to work with.

Did he actually show you a cease and desist request and not let you keep it? Or do you have a copy of it you can share.

If he does not have a copy of it in hand they did not serve him. He also has to sign for it officially. There is a process. If that did not happen a court cannot honor it.

He looked at it, and there were witnesses, it's enough. Ad we have recorded the majority of the conversation as well. Should be enough to sue for damages of business and a few other fun things. But we're considering going a different route in the mean time.

You're going to sue for "damages of business" Have you considered having a real lawyer laugh you out of their office or did you get a quote from prepaid legal?

Guess what, in America, you can't sue someone for what they say unless it is willfully and provably false, and that means you have to prove that they knew what they said was false. If you try to sue someone, you'll end up having to pay their lawyer bill, and probably get countersued in the process for the value of the goods that you owe them, plus damages.

Edit to add, I believe you will also have to prove that the negative / defamatory statements actually cost you business. At this point, if anyone is dumb enough to order from you, it can't be very much. Good luck proving a statistical variance of your purchases based on the posts of Bruno, or anyone else.

[AMT_miners]

Let's get off the bounty and free miners, those are just distractions to the discussion. I am not mad at anyone, I would not blame you. I would take anything offered for free. I would like if we could focus on what the people from 500-1300+ paid for.

Bruno is just getting caught up, he'll be over it soon.

You paid for  a wish. It isn't coming true. Sorry. SUE THEM NOW.

We welcome law suits with open arms. Rick, We don't think your enforcing this is enough. You need to be more specific on how they can sue us. Give  them the links where they can file complaints, tell them the steps, step by step. Come on, you're better than this rick.

[AMT_miners]

4. THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO COUNTERFEIT CHIPS IN CHINA, THESE ARE ONLY RUMORS AND THE PEOPLE THAT BUY INTO THEM WILL BE BADLY BURNT.  THE CHINESE DO NOT HAVE WORKING TERRAHASH MINERS - THEY SIMPLY DONT EXIST, THEY ARE ALL LIES LIKE THE SEVERAL OTHER LIES IN THE FORUM IN THE PAST - LIKE PHEONIX TECHNOLOGIES FOR EXAMPLE. IF THE CHINESE PURCHASED CHIPS FROM BITMINE, US OR ZEFIR - MAYBE THEY'VE BUILT A BOARD AND PUT IT INTO A MINER - BUT THAT HAS YET TO BE SEEN.

This is odd! Josh went into great deal when spoke at his office of how some Chinese outfits ripped off the chip design from Bitmine and was hoping I would help him get to the bottom of it, going as far as naming Titan Miners as one of the culprits.

I'd have to check the dates, but that was a big controversy. Innosilicon claims they have the legal right to sell the Coincraft A1 chip. Giorgio at Bitmine has confirmed this claim, but disputes its validity. So technically, they are NOT counterfeits, they are made by the same foundry under a (disputed) license. Suits have been filed both ways. So depending on when it was posted, the two statements while contradictory may not be lies. There was a lot of confusion on this, and still is. The Dragon miners are made with Innosilicon branded Coincraft A1 chips. By any normal meaning of the word, they are not counterfeit. They may be illegal, but that remains to be determined by the courts.

There are several chinese companies manufacturing ~1TH units right now with A1 chips, legally obtained as far as anyone can tell. There is some speculation that Bitmine failed to honor their commitments to Innosilicon and therefore got claim jumped. It's a mess.

Doesn't excuse the obfuscations here, but that particular issue is sufficiently muddy that they were probably telling the truth as they knew it at the time.

Yea Inno made their own brand, they only sell to Chinese. We still have chips available for immediate delivery btw.

[Chazaki]

Hey AMT_Miners

Sent you guys an email regarding my order #899. Please take a look and respond when you get a chance. Much appreciated.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Guys:

I went back and deleted some of my post that were not helpful to our problem. Let's not do the personal attacks, it only creates a storm of nonsense. I agree with those saying we should just post about non-mining related issues. Doing more wrongs won't make this right.

Plus, according to Josh, it increases sales. I'm all for that. Gotta help the fellow Bitcoiner out any way we can.

[RickJamesBTC]

Let's get off the bounty and free miners, those are just distractions to the discussion. I am not mad at anyone, I would not blame you. I would take anything offered for free. I would like if we could focus on what the people from 500-1300+ paid for.

Bruno is just getting caught up, he'll be over it soon.

You paid for  a wish. It isn't coming true. Sorry. SUE THEM NOW.

We welcome law suits with open arms. Rick, We don't think your enforcing this is enough. You need to be more specific on how they can sue us. Give  them the links where they can file complaints, tell them the steps, step by step. Come on, you're better than this rick.

I did that already. I've also given a number of people assistance through private messages and other means, as strategy discussions between three major groups are being held in a private skype chat group.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

wtf is happening here. A troll account is arguing with himself? So fun!

I'm not sure. I still have about 60 more posts to read to get up to speed. My best guess though is that somebody is pre-mining SPC (Sock Puppet Coin).

[AMT_miners]

In kind, we'll counter with the following.

We're offering a 20btc bounty to bring Phinnaeus Gage to our office, along with his account here on bitcointalk.

Looking forward to seeing this bounty paid up.

We'll never pay Bruno anything, because as he has already demonstrated he will continue to do this crap over and over. Allowing him to walk out with a a soon to be overheated miner was us being courteous. As he continues to rant and rave, we'll just take things to the next level.

OMG...

Yes people, if you get a miner from AMT, it will soon overheat.


So fucking dumb.

No rick - we wrote a shell into cgminer that allows the user to set the voltage to a specific level. Prior to packing up his miner, we turned it on the max.

Otherwise, any user can check their board, using a DVM check the cap next to any of the A1's and it should be somewhere between .825 and .845

If it's at .96 like Bruno's miner, you'll have an issue.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

He just needed to see it was real.

What specs are you looking for, list them and we'll answer.

How about the 300-600W power consumption you initially promised?

That was a typo?  

The real wattage is 900-1300W depending on which of the 3 modes you're running in. (Low power - Nominal -High power)

16000:780000:2000  - low
16000:820000:4000  - nominal
16000:950000:4000  - semi turbo

I'm not a miner, so don't know the difference, but Josh told me that the first two setting - low and nominal - are set to be exactly the same. Nothing changes! The semi turbo setting does increase the hash rate, if I'm using the term correctly.

I honestly don't know how important this relative information is, but can surmise it is.

IF YOU ARE NOT A MINER THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE??  GET LOST!!!!

Because this thread gets my dick hard before I head (no pun intended) on over to MFC to do some market research.

[AMT_miners]

Let's get off the bounty and free miners, those are just distractions to the discussion. I am not mad at anyone, I would not blame you. I would take anything offered for free. I would like if we could focus on what the people from 500-1300+ paid for.

Bruno is just getting caught up, he'll be over it soon.

You paid for  a wish. It isn't coming true. Sorry. SUE THEM NOW.

We welcome law suits with open arms. Rick, We don't think your enforcing this is enough. You need to be more specific on how they can sue us. Give  them the links where they can file complaints, tell them the steps, step by step. Come on, you're better than this rick.

I did that already. I've also given a number of people assistance through private messages and other means, as strategy discussions between three major groups are being held in a private skype chat group.

That's really good, we're excited. You're making this easier and easier rick.