ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Juggy777]

Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

Even if they win 1-2 matches against Australia, there is no chance that they will be able to directly qualify for the ODI World Cup. It is going to be an uphill task for the Zimbabweans. They are playing without some of their best players and that too away from home. With just 5 matches remaining (2 from this series), Zimbabwe is at 12th place with just 35 points. Even if they win all the remaining 5 matches, they will fail to finish among top-8. Maybe now it is time for them to introspect and plan for the next edition.

@GigaBit who was even expecting Zimbabwean team to defeat the mighty Australian side?, and for me personally they were always going to lose hence the end result didn’t surprise me at all. @Sithara007 I don’t think that their board cares about qualifying for any tournament’s, because if they did then they would have planned better and therefore I don’t expect them to plan even for the next edition of the ODI World Cup.

[Sithara007]

@GigaBit who was even expecting Zimbabwean team to defeat the mighty Australian side?, and for me personally they were always going to lose hence the end result didn’t surprise me at all. @Sithara007 I don’t think that their board cares about qualifying for any tournament’s, because if they did then they would have planned better and therefore I don’t expect them to plan even for the next edition of the ODI World Cup.

If they don't finish among the top 8, then they won't gain automatic qualification for the world cup. Then they need to play in the qualifying tournament and at this point I don't think that they have the capability to defeat teams such as Sri Lanka and Ireland. So it is almost certain that Zimbabwe won't be a part of the ODI World Cup in 2023. In 2027, they have slightly better chances, as the total number of participants have been increased to 12. But given the current state of Zimbabwe cricket, I don't think that they will play any ODI World Cups in the future.

[Minecache]

Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

[GigaBit]

Zimbabwe lost one match in the ODI series between Zimbabwe and Australia and it is easy to say that the remaining two matches will also be one sided matches. Australia will win the series. But I have little hope that Zimbabwe will be able to build counteraction in today's match. If T Marumani , Madhevere , Raza and Chakabva can perform well. If these four player can push the score ‍and keep them under pressure in bowling then Zimbabwe's dream may come true. Then a big change can be seen in their cricket.

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

Australia played 23 matches where they collect 2325 points, while Zimbabwe's collected 910 by 23 matches. So naturally there is no comparison between these two teams and it is unlikely that Zimbabwe will win. If the Zimbabwean players can maintain their good performance consistently then any time large team can fall in obstructive situation.

[lixer]

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

Quality difference is going to be widened between top six teams in cricket and rest of teams just because of the poor system which is not allowing them for having more games and experience with now as cricket is spreading then need to work on these ODI and T-20 formats for increasing quality and having better healthy competition in first ODI which was completely one-sided Zimbabwe's three batsmen able to perform better, and they have figure of 200 otherwise mostly were expecting around 125 to 140 so here in this series we have no chance for any resistance from them as they are far behind in quality in recent years and their domestic set up is also not allowing them for having better results and quality players for all formats.

Australia is having good practice in this series before going into big challenges and their few youngsters are also improving performance for future which is good for them.

[posi]

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

Quality difference is going to be widened between top six teams in cricket and rest of teams just because of the poor system which is not allowing them for having more games and experience with now as cricket is spreading then need to work on these ODI and T-20 formats for increasing quality and having better healthy competition in first ODI which was completely one-sided Zimbabwe's three batsmen able to perform better, and they have figure of 200 otherwise mostly were expecting around 125 to 140 so here in this series we have no chance for any resistance from them as they are far behind in quality in recent years and their domestic set up is also not allowing them for having better results and quality players for all formats.
Australia is having good practice in this series before going into big challenges and their few youngsters are also improving performance for future which is good for them.

Yes, I agree with you. Against a team like Zimbabwe, there is no way Australia is going to lose this game. In the first ODI match, Zimbabwe did not have any chance of winning. As a matter of fact, I believe that something similar will happen at the second ODI as well. My guess is that it is going to be another very one-sided match. Unless Zimbabwe somehow finds a way to improve its situation in the near future. If they are able to play well as a team, it is likely that they will be able to make this match at least a little competitive, although the openers of Zimbabwe will also have to perform very well. I don't think it is going to happen, for obvious reasons.

[Sithara007]

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

LOL.. Zimbabwe couldn't even get to a decent score. All out for 96. I am sure that Australia will wrap up the match in max 15 overs. Look at the matches involving Netherlands and Ireland in the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. None of those matches were as lop-sided as the ones involving Zimbabwe. And I hope that the ICC will take this into account, before deciding on the fund allocation for the next cycle (2024-31). As of now, Zimbabwe receive $12 million per year from the ICC. If they can't perform, then there is no point in allocating this much.

[MatthewLM]

ZIM vs AUS the 1st ODI of the Tour no doubt that AUS is a very powerful team right now against ZIM according to the current updates the Match is ongoing and ZIM is opening with the 64 Runa on a loss of 1 Wicket and excitement goes on with the 16 Overs. Seems like ZIM is struggling for the Runs but heavy play by the players appreciated as Partnership is far more important then the Runs Rate in the first 25 oblvers and ZIM is trying to hold down the Wickets

Now Zimbabwe is batting.  They are playing much better.  Zimbabwe have lost 5 wickets so far.  They scored 186 runs in 44 overs.  Looks like they can score more than 220 runs in this match.  All their good batting outs.  Now they have to face many problems to get runs.  Wesley Madhavere scored 72 off 91 balls.  I think he played very well.

There has been an end to the Zimbabwe vs Australia match. There was no doubt that the match between these two teams was very one-sided, as we all expected it to be. With five wickets in hand, Australia won the match with almost 17 overs to spare. Despite Zimbabwe's best efforts, the Australian team was unfazed by what happened, and they walked away with the victory. As a result, Zimbabwe simply did not score enough runs on the board to win the game. In addition, they got all out before the 50 overs were fished. The Australians did not have any problems whatsoever during the whole process.

Yes, I think this match was very well played, we saw that all the players of both teams played a lot of ball  Hopefully we will see more games like this.

[romero121]

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

LOL.. Zimbabwe couldn't even get to a decent score. All out for 96. I am sure that Australia will wrap up the match in max 15 overs. Look at the matches involving Netherlands and Ireland in the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. None of those matches were as lop-sided as the ones involving Zimbabwe. And I hope that the ICC will take this into account, before deciding on the fund allocation for the next cycle (2024-31). As of now, Zimbabwe receive $12 million per year from the ICC. If they can't perform, then there is no point in allocating this much.

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

[coinerer]

It is unthinkable that Zimbabwe will win any match against an experienced team like Australia. Zimbabwe's team is not strong, more importantly, they lack experienced players. The entire performance of Zimbabwe's batting order depends on the performance of Chakabva and Sikander Raja. But Marumani and Madhevera batted well in the first match. If they can maintain this consistency in today's match, maybe the match will be competitive. But I don't think Zimbabwe can beat Australia.

LOL.. Zimbabwe couldn't even get to a decent score. All out for 96. I am sure that Australia will wrap up the match in max 15 overs. Look at the matches involving Netherlands and Ireland in the ICC Cricket World Cup Super League. None of those matches were as lop-sided as the ones involving Zimbabwe. And I hope that the ICC will take this into account, before deciding on the fund allocation for the next cycle (2024-31). As of now, Zimbabwe receive $12 million per year from the ICC. If they can't perform, then there is no point in allocating this much.

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

It is good for Zimbabwe. If small teams are continually get this opportunity, they will do better. Just look at the Afghanistan cricket, they deserves praise today. The maturity they have shown in cricket has made the whole cricketing world splendid. If they can maintain this consistency, they will be able to improve their cricket in the upper level.

[Sithara007]

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

[GigaBit]

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

It is true that Zimbabwe constantly getting the chance with successive big teams but their performances have worsened. Although they played well only against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe is nothing compared to other big teams. It was said earlier that this series will be one-sided. Zimbabwe is not eligible to play with them in any way. Moreover, neither the ICC nor the board or spectators can benefit from such matches.

[savetheFORUM]

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

[fuguebtc]

Australia won the match in a very easy way. Zimbabwe that played better against India and Bangladesh in its previous series weren't able to perform to the level against Australia. Agreed, but only when it gets opportunity it can keep up the game. After a long in recent years now only Zimbabwe have got chances to play against the top teams.

They got the chance and they wasted it. And that is why I am demanding a promotion-relegation system in top-tier cricket. Why Zimbabwe should be given so many chances, when other countries such as Scotland and Namibia are not given the same? Cricket fans have patiently waited for more than two decades and still there is no improvement with respect to Zimbabwe. There is no point in allowing them to play against top teams on a regular basis. I hope that the ICC will take some strong action once the current cycle of ODI super league is completed.

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

Zimbabwe didn’t do anything. They absolutely could not do anything and batting first also did not help them. They could not even reach a hundred with the whole team. All the Zimbabwe team was back in the hut before they reached a hundred and obviously they also could not play out the whole 50 overs. I was honestly expecting better from Zimbabwe thinking that they are going to learn from their mistakes. Obviously, that did not happen. Australia wins this series which was expected. Let’s see if Zimbabwe can salvage something from the series in the last match.

[Sithara007]

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

I would rather place 6-7 teams in the top tier and same number of teams in the second tier. But then, it won't be acceptable for teams such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, who will be relegated to the second tier. So as of now, there is no solution available which is acceptable for all the parties. And with the gap between top teams and the lower ranked teams widening, the issue of lop-sided matches will be raised more often in the future. Increased fund allocation from the ICC would not achieve anything, as seen from the case with Zimbabwe.

[Minecache]

With today match looking ICC needs some good changes in their system because they are doing nothing and quality gap is widening day by day after today match now I am also feeling they need to do some good changes for better entertainment and bring promotion-relegation system which will help for improving quality in test matches they need to have six teams at top and other six in second tire in ODI they need to have ten teams in A and nearly seven or eight in tire B same apply in T20 with twelve teams in tire A and rest in tire B because with this we can expect some better quality and entertaining which is also good for spread this game with matches like today nothing positive can happen even more frustration for fans and lost of media is also occurring which is not good.

I would rather place 6-7 teams in the top tier and same number of teams in the second tier. But then, it won't be acceptable for teams such as Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, who will be relegated to the second tier. So as of now, there is no solution available which is acceptable for all the parties. And with the gap between top teams and the lower ranked teams widening, the issue of lop-sided matches will be raised more often in the future. Increased fund allocation from the ICC would not achieve anything, as seen from the case with Zimbabwe.

I think placing four teams in each tier is going to be the best decision. Because every team is going to be in the rightful place and also going to try to improve. But that is going to make the smaller and associate teams feel like outcasts. And if 6/7 teams are in a tier I think there will be more teams very interested in cricket. Suppose Bangladesh or Sri Lanka is not in the top six, they will work very hard to get promoted up to the top six positions. And the associate nations are probably going to be in the Third tier and that is going to be interesting for them.

[Hamza2424]

Everyone is trying to figure out the ZIM weak points dudes take it easy as AUS is a very powerful team for ZIM as ZIM is in the learning stages what you expect from them just figures out that how they are doing good and how much perfection they actually need to Face such teams in the next era. So point is pointless of we are discussing one on one fight between both teams on the base of match win or lose situation.

[tbterryboy]

I think placing four teams in each tier is going to be the best decision. Because every team is going to be in the rightful place and also going to try to improve. But that is going to make the smaller and associate teams feel like outcasts. And if 6/7 teams are in a tier I think there will be more teams very interested in cricket. Suppose Bangladesh or Sri Lanka is not in the top six, they will work very hard to get promoted up to the top six positions. And the associate nations are probably going to be in the Third tier and that is going to be interesting for them.

Too many tiers too much headache for all so better idea is just gone with two groups one for top six and second for later six in test format in ODI they need to allow eight teams in tier one and then have second group with same number of teams because here we need around 16 teams which good be good and in T20 they need to be ten teams with other ten in second and all others in third tier because we need this format as big as we can for better marketing purpose and giving other countries more chances with Franchise is surely going to be necessary for them.

Many players will have good experience which will help all teams for having good quality in laser time and this format is having brighter future as going to be part of Olympics and Asian games which are surely good for all members.

[eaLiTy]

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It is good for Zimbabwe. If small teams are continually get this opportunity, they will do better. Just look at the Afghanistan cricket, they deserves praise today. The maturity they have shown in cricket has made the whole cricketing world splendid. If they can maintain this consistency, they will be able to improve their cricket in the upper level.

I am not sure whether it will be good for Zimbabwe, they need to find quality players and for getting exposure and experience playing against top level teams would benefit the talents, other than that there is no point in conducting these ODI series where the players hardly play the entire quota of overs let alone have a competitive match in any aspect.

Even for punters the odds are not that great since it is a one sided trashing.

[dezoel]

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It is good for Zimbabwe. If small teams are continually get this opportunity, they will do better. Just look at the Afghanistan cricket, they deserves praise today. The maturity they have shown in cricket has made the whole cricketing world splendid. If they can maintain this consistency, they will be able to improve their cricket in the upper level.

I am not sure whether it will be good for Zimbabwe, they need to find quality players and for getting exposure and experience playing against top level teams would benefit the talents, other than that there is no point in conducting these ODI series where the players hardly play the entire quota of overs let alone have a competitive match in any aspect.

Even for punters the odds are not that great since it is a one sided trashing.

We already figure out this many times here now time is running out for this all because they need good and professional management but sadly right now they have corrupt and crap political influence which is not allowing their domestic set-up to have better system even they are having good funds from ICC, and they also can do some marketing which will bring some good amount in their wallet for better things they already lost their golden era just because of this political influence and their quality players are living outside this country for decades which can change things for them, and they can do good even not at top but still good which is acceptable for all.

Now wait for revolutionary person who super head them, and they have few good things for their cricketing community because they are also good for ODI and T20 format instead of playing in all three formats which is surely not good for them right now.