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2401  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} CoinTerra vs. Butterfly Labs (Who will deliver first?) on: January 29, 2014, 03:44:13 PM
Cointerra Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's a shock. Like BFL have ever won a "first to deliver" race  Smiley

KNC won the 28nm race several months ago so neither Cointerra or BFL are even a close second.

Not about first to 28nm. It was first to get their miners shipped.

BFL fail.

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Do another one Asicminer 40nm vs BFL 28nm. See who has the cheaper $ Gh/s and ships chips / miners before the end of March.
2402  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: TerraHash thread deleted? on: January 29, 2014, 03:40:07 PM
Wasn't deleted, it was renamed and moved to off topic/locked, by the OP.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198489.0

So the OP can move/rename his thread to any subtopic at any time? What's the logic behind this?

This doesn't sound fair at all. For me his move means that he is trying to hide/wipe his scamming trails. I understand that this forum has a "caveat emptor" mindset, but this makes me think that scammers/scumbags have more tools for their bad intended moves than the average user has in order to defend himself. I wonder why there are so many that are pissed at this move. I didn't have any money invested in TH scam, but this is absurd for this community. I actually thought this is a better community than many others, but this makes me think otherwise.

Don't expect too much support from the forum on that regard. We have to take care of our own.
2403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Pizzacoin with Innovative Proof-of-Pizza on: January 29, 2014, 03:19:10 PM
Excellent.

Watching and waiting should be a great coin.
2404  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 29, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
What a rip off, we could do a 1 yr contract out of our farm at half that price easy.  And you would start mining today.  



Share a link and pricing and any customer testimonials.

Group Buy #2 pricing - .35 a share 18GH right now.  Another 12 GH later...cost breakdown (ignoring the 12GH later).
.35 ($280) buy in + 164.89 1 year hosting = $444.89 for 18/GH = $24.71/GH
Plus you'll get more hashes later from a KNC Neptune.

Group Buy #4 is even cheaper, @ .295 a share, and it has a Scrypt rig as it's bonus to diversify.  There's a big difference when you go with a community oriented project, versus the "2 week" nightmare.

Did anyone see the Asicminer 40nm chip post? Sub $1 per Gh/s. Game over for BFL.
2405  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Bitmine CoinCraft A1 28nm chip distribution / DIY support on: January 29, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
Do you all remember what is this tread all about.
Using dirty words and calling somebody "idiot" is just shitting the tread.
Please stay on topic !!!!!!!!

Pot Kettle Black Calling.

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When we get on our bike and start working on the A1 we would like to invite the EE's posting here to meet with our EE's might be good to have a sit down with everyone to discuss things.
2406  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN]ASICMiner Publicly Looking for Potential Customers/Partners for New Chips on: January 29, 2014, 02:15:49 PM
The WPC would definitely be interested in this.

The right move. Cheaper chips.

We hope to discuss possible development of a 40nm Wasp using that chip. We will have a working prototype coming out soon and with our unique modular design and an open source design it is a perfect match. We will be sending you some information soon but we would like to get reference materials and ideally some sample chips asap.
2407  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [OPEN] Bitmine CoinCraft A1 28nm chip distribution / DIY support on: January 29, 2014, 10:58:47 AM
Emphatic NO to your question loshia.
2408  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 29, 2014, 01:14:58 AM
What a rip off, we could do a 1 yr contract out of our farm at half that price easy.  And you would start mining today.  



Share a link and pricing and any customer testimonials.
2409  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 28, 2014, 06:44:48 AM
Who owns Nimbus?

That is all that needs to be asked... who has a stake in it? Is Josh a part owner? Is BFL or any of their board owners?

Who are Nimbus? What experience do they have in cloud mining? Where are the miners being housed?

1000's of unanswered questions like these might want to make the normal investor raise the red flag because they are associated with BFL. That alone would give any person who knows BFL history to not buy anything from Nimbus especially way over priced cloud mining at $40 Gh/s.
2410  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ntek 1.2th/s miner? on: January 28, 2014, 05:02:26 AM
Proof will be in the pudding.

Everything else and this pretty innocuous back and forth in this thread means very little to those who have already paid. Given A1 / Bitmine's delivery schedule we will know in short order what is and isn't a scam in the A1 chip miner market. Reading the website like tea leaves for a scam is not the only factor. Putting your own name and reputation up like Ry has does speak more authenticity vs. fly by night operations littering bitcointalk including well established companies that take delays for customers as a badge of honor showing little or no remorse.
2411  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Purchasing ASIC Mining Chips on: January 27, 2014, 08:14:39 AM
Twice now I have bought bare chips to have them built into miners, and both times it has been a disaster with delivery coming way too late to be even close to profitable.

Buying ready-to-go miners is definitely the better way to go.

Faults lay where?

Chips supplier or Fabricator?

And it is always important $ / Gh/s at the end of the process. That is critical for determining the end game if your buying and fabricating as that was the OP. Yes much better to get in stock miners when / if available at best price.
2412  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 27, 2014, 03:08:28 AM
Who owns Nimbus?

Follow the money.

Time to rebrand I guess now BFL's name is mud right?
2413  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Purchasing ASIC Mining Chips on: January 27, 2014, 03:07:16 AM
Ok. Why can't one just buy the ASICs that have already been designed, then by the PCBs to accompany them and the other parts, ie. PSU, coolers, etc.

here you go, cheap as chips http://btcgarden.com//productsDetail.do?id=107

Whose PCB are you using?

$ / GH/s after you get the board made?
2414  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [HALTED] Bitmine CoinCraft 28nm chip distribution / DIY support on: January 26, 2014, 11:19:22 AM
I was wondering, has anybody else ever tried a single chip before ?

Hm, no - both tested designs (Bitmine, marto74) use multi-chip-chains. Not sure what the WASP folks are going for, but no test results so far from their side.

Worst case you need to ensure that chip is not broken. If you have the second sample available you could double check.


Above that, please PM me for a more interactive support.

Likely both chips, ours won't be a single chip prototype, will be put on a 6 chip board layout that we are employing for our bring up. We are working through our BitFury design first before moving on to the A1.
2415  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. on: January 26, 2014, 07:38:01 AM
Twitter:

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CoinChomp ‏@CoinChomp 17h
ButterflyLabs booth. Staff fielding frenzied questions. From pissed off customers perhaps? pic.twitter.com/0CjwpetJTl

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Zentoshi ‏@Zentoshi_btc Jan 23
@ButterflyLabs  Our miner has stopped working. Only lasted 4 months and waited more than a year to receive it! And as usual you don't answer

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BMG4 ‏@BryanGrant Jan 24
@ButterflyLabs We made an order 2 wks ago. Been trying to reach you since then. No responses from @ButterflyLabs to emails or phone calls.
2416  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX8A1 - 6/8 chip Coincraft A1 board on: January 26, 2014, 07:10:58 AM
I'm usualy ok and understanding.
And I would do it soon in amy other case


But in this case he is using unpropriate language and made a lot posts here

Trying to traten me with negative posting.
My best option is to refund ASAP to make him shut.
I'm not going to. After all this bitching he'll wait.


Doesn't matter if the guy is a complete asshole. Pay em if you owe him problem solved. This community doesn't really need more companies that act in an unprofessional manner. Who cares what words he uses. If you owe him pay em. Problem resolved. Then you can get back to building products that work. I respect the work you do Marto74... how about we can get back to focusing only on that. Pay this guy and move on that way we can see working A1 miners in the wild faster. Don't waste time firefighting this stuff let the other crap companies play that game.
2417  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ntek 1.2th/s miner? on: January 26, 2014, 07:07:24 AM
I have had a number of conversations with Ry also in relation to the miners they are going to build and in my opinion the community may want to give the Ntek/RevUpRender a close once over and determine their depth in the rendering arena as a solid platform for their first move into BitCoin mining as a fabricator. Clearly they have deep roots in the rendering game https://www.revuprender.com/pages/case-studios and what this company and Ry bring to mining might be exactly what we need in this community a professional gravitas.

It is good this community roots out scams as quickly as possible and I agree that this is necessary given the bs we have seen passed off as legitimate companies that actually ship product. Time will tell if Ntek will deliver as promised but there is plenty I see here that gives me the sense that this team will produce miners based on their background in rendering. This is not an endorsement. This is merely my opinion based on the review of the information available and the communications I have had with Ry.

At this point let us see what Ben T. says about a unit review and let us see what NTek can show us in the coming weeks as they build their miners. I wish them luck and welcome what I suspect will be a definite positive addition to ASIC fabricators based in the USA as we all know we need more players in this market place that will deliver product on time with little or no bs.
2418  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Technobit HEX8A1 - 6/8 chip Coincraft A1 board on: January 26, 2014, 06:50:40 AM
It is clear that there is some frustration.

If you promised to refund the guy then refund the guy. Problem solved.
2419  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 26, 2014, 06:44:59 AM
why can't bfl just be banned from this respectable board! why are these scammers and their products allowed here

It is up to us to point out their predatory nature not for the board to police it. Keep shouting and a few more new members might hear us and steer clear of them. Note that if you do you risk the personal attacks and slander machine that is BFL and it's shills. Be aware of that as you post against all that is unholy about BFL.
2420  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The Wasp Project Collective Information thread. on: January 26, 2014, 05:41:00 AM
Update:

Wasp & Hive Prototype Update

The EE team has had what can only be said to be a horrible week with the CAD software and that has pushed things back yet again. Agggg! I feel for the EE putting in 16 hour days just to wrestle with persnickety software is not where we all want for him. In terms of the Hive we have significant airflow enhancements so that cooling will be greatly improved thanks to a "spinal column" looking design. The Hive will be ready before the Wasp and that is a good news for us moving foward. We had 2 potential customers at the meeting and questions about the A1 chip and the PCB were a key point. Our EE is recommending that anyone building for the A1 chip does go with a metal core board based on his years of experience it is required without a doubt. We will be clear to anyone fabricating our design that this is a non-negotiable point as the heat stress on the A1 pads with such tiny tiny contact points it will be a worry otherwise using only a standard FM4 PCB board as you really have to find as many ways to get the heat out as possible.

Licensing Fee Update

Our provisioning server with our firmware will be tested this week so that is progressing very well and will be ready when the Wasps and Hive come together. The WPC is currently discussing the pros & cons of the fee and trying hard to come up with a balance that allows for fabricators or end users to seamlessly get their licenses paid for and get mining without any interruptions. We will have the provisioning server up in time for fabricators and well before the first units are shipped to the community as we will use our own prototypes to test this fully.

Mining Pool Update

We will have to get our mining pool live tested this week to check stratum and cold wallets etc. We hope that we will have a working pool going soon. http://wpcpool.mine.nu/ you can check it out here to keep tabs on that progress.

Website Update

As we wait patiently for good news at the next EE meeting on February 1st the team setting up the website will continue to work on the text and graphics for the site. We are waiting on videos and real demos before we launch the site. We might put up a placeholder site soon so that people can check back that way rather than waiting for a weekly update from here.

Sales

Drop me an email or PM if you haven't already if you are looking at production of our designs. We have many members worldwide so if you need to speak with us in your first language we might have someone in the WPC that can parlez with you. I believe we have 10 to 15 languages available in our collective and we are represented across the entire planet.

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