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January 29, 2012, 01:36:42 PM |
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6,Reporting temperature/safety measurements can allows cgminer to shut off the FPGA if it gets too hot. 6 needs additional hardware, but we notice that the normal error rate is less than 0.1%, if the error rate goes high, that means something goes wrong. But by then, it's too late (and the FPGA destroyed), right? is there any reference docs about "noncerange extension" feature? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getwork#noncerangeIt occurs to me that I'm not really aware of how FPGAs handle SHA256 internally; if it doesn't use the normal uint32-based algorithm, it might not be practical to implement.
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BCMan
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January 29, 2012, 01:49:18 PM |
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Do I need to enable engine clock autotune for "temp-cutoff" activation? Or it's active by default?
You need to enable --auto-gpu .However if you dont give it a range for engine clock speeds, it won't adjust any clock speeds, but it will still cut off the device if it hits the --temp-cutoff threshold. Great, thanks!
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January 29, 2012, 02:35:16 PM |
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I've got an issue that I hope someone can offer some help with. I am unable to restart a GPU manually after it has been declared SICK. After changing the core voltage/clock to something (presumably) more stable, I can't restart the GPU. If I try to enable it I am told that I must restart it first. If I try to restart it cgminer says "Thread x no longer exists": Thread 0: 199.3 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE Thread 2: 202.2 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE
GPU 1: 0.0 / 183.1 Mh/s | A:11360 R:85 HW:0 U:2.50/m I:6 22.0 C F: 32 9.532824E-130: 157 MHz M: 300 Mhz V: 1.000V A: 0% P: 0% Last initialised: [2012-01-29 09:52:15] Intensity: 6 Thread 1: 0.0 Mh/s Disabled DEAD reported in [2012-01-29 13:55:01] Thread 3: 0.0 Mh/s Disabled DEAD reported in [2012-01-29 13:55:02]
[E]nable [D]isable [I]ntensity [R]estart GPU [C]hange settings Or press any other key to continue Select GPU to attempt to restart: 1 Attempting to restart threads of GPU 1 GPU 0: 401.5 / 401.0 Mh/s | A:25054 R:154 HW:0 U:5.52/m I:6[2012-01-29 15:31:20] Thread 1 no longer exists [2012-01-29 15:31:20] Thread 3 no longer exists 63.5 C F: 61% (2872 RPM) E: 875 MHz M: 250 Mhz V: 1.072V A: 99% P: 0% Last initialised: [2012-01-26 11:51:18] Intensity: 6 Thread 0: 199.4 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE Thread 2: 202.4 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE
GPU 1 is the sick GPU. GPU 0 is fine. If I restart cgminer, GPU 0 starts up without problems.
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jjiimm_64
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January 29, 2012, 04:27:34 PM |
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I've got an issue that I hope someone can offer some help with. I am unable to restart a GPU manually after it has been declared SICK. After changing the core voltage/clock to something (presumably) more stable, I can't restart the GPU. If I try to enable it I am told that I must restart it first. If I try to restart it cgminer says "Thread x no longer exists": Thread 0: 199.3 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE Thread 2: 202.2 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE
GPU 1: 0.0 / 183.1 Mh/s | A:11360 R:85 HW:0 U:2.50/m I:6 22.0 C F: 32 9.532824E-130: 157 MHz M: 300 Mhz V: 1.000V A: 0% P: 0% Last initialised: [2012-01-29 09:52:15] Intensity: 6 Thread 1: 0.0 Mh/s Disabled DEAD reported in [2012-01-29 13:55:01] Thread 3: 0.0 Mh/s Disabled DEAD reported in [2012-01-29 13:55:02]
[E]nable [D]isable [I]ntensity [R]estart GPU [C]hange settings Or press any other key to continue Select GPU to attempt to restart: 1 Attempting to restart threads of GPU 1 GPU 0: 401.5 / 401.0 Mh/s | A:25054 R:154 HW:0 U:5.52/m I:6[2012-01-29 15:31:20] Thread 1 no longer exists [2012-01-29 15:31:20] Thread 3 no longer exists 63.5 C F: 61% (2872 RPM) E: 875 MHz M: 250 Mhz V: 1.072V A: 99% P: 0% Last initialised: [2012-01-26 11:51:18] Intensity: 6 Thread 0: 199.4 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE Thread 2: 202.4 Mh/s Enabled ALIVE
GPU 1 is the sick GPU. GPU 0 is fine. If I restart cgminer, GPU 0 starts up without problems. count your blessings... once I have a dead one, i have to reboot to get it back.
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DeathAndTaxes
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January 29, 2012, 04:36:30 PM |
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Ok, I'm running 2.1 SDK now, but most of gpu stats (like temp, clocks, voltage, etc) isn't showing in gpu menu. However yesterday with 2.1.2 and 2.5 it worked fine. Using 2.2.0 now. UPD: oops, looks, like missing "[C]hange settings" option in 2.2.0. That happens when cgminer doesn't detect ADL support. For me it happens when using remote desktop. The change in driver version is likely coincidental. cgminer makes changes to cards and gets "stats" via ADL. Are you accessing the rig remotely? If not try a reboot and use cgminer before anything else. I have seen AMD ADL driver? service? crash and that causes those options to "disapear".
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January 29, 2012, 05:18:41 PM Last edit: January 29, 2012, 07:27:37 PM by rcocchiararo |
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hi 2 questions: 1) Any chance version 2.2.0 might be slower on single or dual (crosfire) 5830 ? 2) Any chance older cgminer versions restored not only fans, but clocks (or at least memory clock) of each card when pressing "q" ? i lower my memory to 300, but today i noticed it remains at 300 and never goes up. (Geeks3D GPU Caps Viewer detects max memory clock as 300 also). EDIT: i just noticed that my linux box still running whatever drivers i installed on it when i built it, and SDK 2.4 still produces 300+ mhash with cgminer, meanwhile, my linux pcs are down to 280 or so. I did some reading and found out that the newer SDKs (2.6+) had that effect (starting from drivers 11.12). Even after fully removing 11.12 and installing 11.10, or even manually changing opencl (and 2 other DLLs) like its explained on these forums, i am unable to get back the old performance EDIT2: After carefully reading your notes, i found out that the importat thing was to generate the (i guess kernel) binaries with the correct SDK. Since i had the ones from the correctly working SDK on CGMINER older versions folder, im fine now XD 2.2.0 is still slower than 2.1.1 tho.
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BCMan
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January 29, 2012, 07:25:51 PM |
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Ok, I'm running 2.1 SDK now, but most of gpu stats (like temp, clocks, voltage, etc) isn't showing in gpu menu. However yesterday with 2.1.2 and 2.5 it worked fine. Using 2.2.0 now. UPD: oops, looks, like missing "[C]hange settings" option in 2.2.0. That happens when cgminer doesn't detect ADL support. For me it happens when using remote desktop. The change in driver version is likely coincidental. cgminer makes changes to cards and gets "stats" via ADL. Are you accessing the rig remotely? If not try a reboot and use cgminer before anything else. I have seen AMD ADL driver? service? crash and that causes those options to "disapear". No, I don't use remote desktop. ADL is working. Ckolivas has figured out the problem and made a temp fix. Read the thread a bit further.
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January 29, 2012, 07:31:52 PM |
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Any system changes needed with Linux to move from 2.1.1 to 2.2.0? I'm observing massive problems with the latest updates. I kept the previous working binary as reference, but was not able to isolate the problem. First obvious thing is ADL fails to initialize: [2012-01-29 19:30:32] Started cgminer 2.2.0 [2012-01-29 19:30:32] CL Platform vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [2012-01-29 19:30:32] CL Platform name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing [2012-01-29 19:30:32] CL Platform version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4 (595.10) [2012-01-29 19:30:32] ADL Initialisation Error!
The remaining initialization sequence looks ok, at least no obvious differences to what 2.1.1 was reporting: [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Init GPU thread 0 GPU 0 virtual GPU 0 [2012-01-29 19:30:35] CL Platform vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [2012-01-29 19:30:35] CL Platform name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing [2012-01-29 19:30:35] CL Platform version: OpenCL 1.1 AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4 (595.10) [2012-01-29 19:30:35] List of devices: [2012-01-29 19:30:35] 0 Cayman [2012-01-29 19:30:35] 1 Cayman [2012-01-29 19:30:35] 2 Cayman [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Selected 0: Cayman [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Preferred vector width reported 4 [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Max work group size reported 256 [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Long-polling activated for http://pit.deepbit.net:8332/listenChannel [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Loaded binary image phatk110817Caymanbitalignv2w128long4.bin [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Initialising kernel phatk110817.cl with BFI_INT, 2 vectors and worksize 128 [2012-01-29 19:30:35] initCl() finished. Found Cayman [2012-01-29 19:30:35] Pushing ping to thread 1
...but the hash rates achieved are at about 30% [2012-01-29 20:18:56] GPU0 (5s):131.0 (avg):123.5 Mh/s | A:53 R:0 HW:0 U:1.77/m I: 9 [2012-01-29 20:18:56] GPU1 (5s):103.2 (avg):121.8 Mh/s | A:55 R:0 HW:0 U:1.84/m I: 9 [2012-01-29 20:18:56] GPU2 (5s):95.6 (avg):121.2 Mh/s | A:43 R:0 HW:0 U:1.44/m I: 9
of what 2.1.1 does: [2012-01-29 20:22:51] GPU0 (5s):363.3 (avg):370.0 Mh/s | A:5 R:0 HW:0 U:4.58/m | I: 9 [2012-01-29 20:22:51] GPU1 (5s):360.9 (avg):365.9 Mh/s | A:2 R:0 HW:0 U:3.61/m | I: 9 [2012-01-29 20:22:51] GPU2 (5s):372.4 (avg):350.6 Mh/s | A:4 R:0 HW:0 U:4.35/m | I: 9
As said, using the same APP and ADL version, same kernel. I also tried with deleting previous kernel binaries with the same result. I am using the current git HEAD for 2.2.0 (82af288e69). Any ideas?
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GenTarkin
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January 29, 2012, 07:35:39 PM |
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when using anything above intensity 9 on my 5970 w/ 11.12 drivers. The cpu usage is pegged... 9 and below cpu usage is 0% Any reason why its higher on I 10+? thanks
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January 29, 2012, 07:56:59 PM |
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when using anything above intensity 9 on my 5970 w/ 11.12 drivers. The cpu usage is pegged... 9 and below cpu usage is 0% Any reason why its higher on I 10+? thanks
You are only supposed to use 10+ with the new 79xx cards. I'm positive Con mentioned that somewhere around here.
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January 29, 2012, 08:05:55 PM |
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when using anything above intensity 9 on my 5970 w/ 11.12 drivers. The cpu usage is pegged... 9 and below cpu usage is 0% Any reason why its higher on I 10+? thanks
just curious what mhash your getting with your 5970 using 11.12 ? I messed around with several different configurations over the last couple of days for mine and the best I came up with is 11.9 w/ cgminer 2.20 - I get a nice 820 mhash - woohoo! btw: ckvolias do you know why Anubis web front end stopped working with the 2.2.0 upgrade? thanks!
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BCMan
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January 29, 2012, 08:21:38 PM |
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when using anything above intensity 9 on my 5970 w/ 11.12 drivers. The cpu usage is pegged... 9 and below cpu usage is 0% Any reason why its higher on I 10+? thanks
This is the infamous cpu bug.
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jake262144
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January 29, 2012, 08:28:35 PM |
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This is the infamous cpu bug.
No it's bloody damned not. THE cpu bug would eat a whole core no matter what intensity/aggression you'd chosen. It was caused by AMD's driver fuck-up and has since been fixed. There have been some OS-specific CPU hogging issues, eg with Ubuntu. Do the research first and don't post misleading and try not to post inaccurate information, k? Intensity higher than 9 is only supposed to be used with 79xx cards.
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BCMan
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January 29, 2012, 08:32:46 PM |
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This is the infamous cpu bug.
No it's bloody damned not. THE cpu bug would eat a whole core no matter what intensity/aggression you'd chosen. It was caused by AMD's driver fuck-up and has since been fixed. There have been some OS-specific CPU hogging issues, eg with Ubuntu. Do the research first and don't post misleading and inaccurate information, k? Tell me then why I don't have any cpu usage with even 12 intensity with 2.1, but have all up to 100% on one core (with 1 gpu miner) with all other sdk's (in case of Win7)? It's the same bug. It's a slight usage ~15-17% on one core, if I use buggy sdk and aggression 9, with 8 - zero usage. Higher intensity > higher cpu load with buggy sdk's, cept 8.
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January 29, 2012, 08:36:19 PM |
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Calm down fellas. They're different CPU bugs. There are 3 in all. Either way intensity above 9 is mostly harmful.
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January 29, 2012, 08:39:28 PM |
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when using anything above intensity 9 on my 5970 w/ 11.12 drivers. The cpu usage is pegged... 9 and below cpu usage is 0% Any reason why its higher on I 10+? thanks
just curious what mhash your getting with your 5970 using 11.12 ? I messed around with several different configurations over the last couple of days for mine and the best I came up with is 11.9 w/ cgminer 2.20 - I get a nice 820 mhash - woohoo! btw: ckvolias do you know why Anubis web front end stopped working with the 2.2.0 upgrade? thanks! Changed API with the newer commands I would guess.
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jake262144
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January 29, 2012, 08:44:01 PM |
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Tell me then why I don't have any cpu usage with even 12 intensity with 2.1, but have all up to 100% on one core (with 1 gpu miner) with all other sdk's? It's the same bug.
If you posted your driver version, OS and GPU config someone could try to unravel your issue but this is hardly the appropriate thread. Proof by counter-example: a lot of miners moved to 11.11 or 11.12 driver and reported no CPU-hogging issues. Therefore, the major CPU-hogging flaw has been fixed. Computers and operating systems are inherently very complex subjects and great many things can go wrong. Unexpected combinations of drivers, SDKs and system libraries can still peg the CPU but it's luckily relatively uncommon. Mixing x64 and x86 code can not only be a real pain but also result in undefined behavior. EDIT:: Con, latest git works like a charm The GPU order has changed on my Debian machines, though. EDIT:: Another donation is due as soon as my wallet recuperates.
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BCMan
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January 29, 2012, 08:51:49 PM |
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Tell me then why I don't have any cpu usage with even 12 intensity with 2.1, but have all up to 100% on one core (with 1 gpu miner) with all other sdk's? It's the same bug.
If you posted your driver version, OS and GPU config someone could try to unravel your issue but this is hardly the appropriate thread. Proof by counter-example: a lot of miners moved to 11.11 or 11.12 driver and reported no CPU-hogging issues. Therefore, the major CPU-hogging flaw has been fixed. Computers and operating systems are inherently very complex subjects and great many things can go wrong. Unexpected combinations of drivers, SDKs and system libraries can still peg the CPU but it's luckily relatively uncommon. Mixing x64 and x86 code can be a real pain. EDIT:: Con, latest git works like a charm The GPU order has changed on my Debian machines, though. I fixed it already, just said that he has the same bug. Sometimes it's a very minor cpu load with low intensity/aggression, but it's the same issue. Read this reply and 2 next ones. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56740.msg718469#msg718469 And btw I use intensity @ 9 right now.
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January 29, 2012, 09:05:38 PM |
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when using anything above intensity 9 on my 5970 w/ 11.12 drivers. The cpu usage is pegged... 9 and below cpu usage is 0% Any reason why its higher on I 10+? thanks
just curious what mhash your getting with your 5970 using 11.12 ? I messed around with several different configurations over the last couple of days for mine and the best I came up with is 11.9 w/ cgminer 2.20 - I get a nice 820 mhash - woohoo! wow nice mhash! what clocks? I get 715mh/s @ 780/300mhz vgpu @ 1.030v
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January 29, 2012, 09:07:43 PM |
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when using anything above intensity 9 on my 5970 w/ 11.12 drivers. The cpu usage is pegged... 9 and below cpu usage is 0% Any reason why its higher on I 10+? thanks
just curious what mhash your getting with your 5970 using 11.12 ? I messed around with several different configurations over the last couple of days for mine and the best I came up with is 11.9 w/ cgminer 2.20 - I get a nice 820 mhash - woohoo! btw: ckvolias do you know why Anubis web front end stopped working with the 2.2.0 upgrade? thanks! The RPC API version is now 1.0 The README explains all the other changes to the API ... Most notably, it mentions that the CPU|N command is no longer available on software not compiled with CPU support. The README also says that you should check "cpucount" or "config" to determine if there is any CPU info available. "config" also tells you if ADL is available and also if any GPU's use ADL - thus if the new ADL commands should succeed or fail.
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