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July 30, 2014, 10:21:12 AM
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Just re-released 0.92 as 0.92.1. 

Do I understand correctly that upgrading from 0.91 would require upgrading the offline wallets too?  If that is the case, please put a warning on the website, upgrading the offline Armory may be significant work depending on the setup.  I for one plan to wait till the dust has settled.  I know that no new changes are expected in the communication protocol, but there will probably be many bug fixes.


Is this right? Please confirm.

If you mean transferring offline transactions it's fine. The multi Sig stuff does keep changing though

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July 30, 2014, 12:15:05 PM
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Why is Armory unable to detect which download I need? I'm on Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, and I get this message when I start the secure downloader (Help > Update Software):
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Armory could not determine an appropriate download for your operating system.  You will have to manually select the correct download on the next window.
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(this isn't new to 0.92, it's been doing this since I first used Armory)
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July 30, 2014, 01:43:43 PM
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I successfully installed 0.92.1 using secure installer

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the install process stopped at on point with a message window popping up
asking me to retry,skip or cancel the installation process.

I figured it's because the current Armory was running
( which was necessary as the secure installer has to be started from inside Armory )
 So I closed it, and hit retry. All went fine then.

I guess some small correcting is needed here to avoid confusing.

Now, let's get to work with 0.92.1 Smiley Thanks to the TEAM Smiley
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July 30, 2014, 02:45:43 PM
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Just re-released 0.92 as 0.92.1. 

Do I understand correctly that upgrading from 0.91 would require upgrading the offline wallets too?  If that is the case, please put a warning on the website, upgrading the offline Armory may be significant work depending on the setup.  I for one plan to wait till the dust has settled.  I know that no new changes are expected in the communication protocol, but there will probably be many bug fixes.

Yes, moving past 0.91.2 will require both offline and online computers to be upgraded to 0.92.1. This is true whether or not you plan to use multisig.

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July 30, 2014, 03:07:25 PM
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Just re-released 0.92 as 0.92.1. 

Do I understand correctly that upgrading from 0.91 would require upgrading the offline wallets too?  If that is the case, please put a warning on the website, upgrading the offline Armory may be significant work depending on the setup.  I for one plan to wait till the dust has settled.  I know that no new changes are expected in the communication protocol, but there will probably be many bug fixes.

Yes, moving past 0.91.2 will require both offline and online computers to be upgraded to 0.92.1. This is true whether or not you plan to use multisig.

My offline system is based on Ubuntu 10.04, as this was the recommended set up just a few months ago. I see only offline bundles of 0.92.1 for 12.04, are you planning to make offline bundles also for 10.04?

Last but not least: do the offline bundles for 12.04 work on 12.04.4 or only on 12.04.3 as the previous ones?

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July 30, 2014, 03:28:11 PM
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Just re-released 0.92 as 0.92.1. 

Do I understand correctly that upgrading from 0.91 would require upgrading the offline wallets too?  If that is the case, please put a warning on the website, upgrading the offline Armory may be significant work depending on the setup.  I for one plan to wait till the dust has settled.  I know that no new changes are expected in the communication protocol, but there will probably be many bug fixes.

Yes, moving past 0.91.2 will require both offline and online computers to be upgraded to 0.92.1. This is true whether or not you plan to use multisig.

My offline system is based on Ubuntu 10.04, as this was the recommended set up just a few months ago. I see only offline bundles of 0.92.1 for 12.04, are you planning to make offline bundles also for 10.04?

Last but not least: do the offline bundles for 12.04 work on 12.04.4 or only on 12.04.3 as the previous ones?

Unfortunately, we permanently broke support for 10.04.  I really tried not to do that, but some of the new stuff we made (including the universal builder that makes things much simpler to deploy on other Linux systems), requires a version of libc that is newer than 10.04.   The benefit here was that now we have a single deb package that works on all Ubuntu newer than 12.04 -- we used to have to have lots of different packages and individually verify which OSes it worked on.

For myself, I just keep an old version 0.91.2 on my online computer, and use that when I need to sign something with my offline computer.  It's certainly inconvenient, but at least the databases don't have to be rebuilt to switch, so it doesn't take that long.  I plan to eventually upgrade/switch my offline computer.  It may be inconvenient, but you can be sure that I myself and inconvenienced too!  Yet I still went through with it because of the simplicity and robustness added by making the associated change.

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July 30, 2014, 04:16:33 PM
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Just re-released 0.92 as 0.92.1. 

Do I understand correctly that upgrading from 0.91 would require upgrading the offline wallets too?  If that is the case, please put a warning on the website, upgrading the offline Armory may be significant work depending on the setup.  I for one plan to wait till the dust has settled.  I know that no new changes are expected in the communication protocol, but there will probably be many bug fixes.

Yes, moving past 0.91.2 will require both offline and online computers to be upgraded to 0.92.1. This is true whether or not you plan to use multisig.

My offline system is based on Ubuntu 10.04, as this was the recommended set up just a few months ago. I see only offline bundles of 0.92.1 for 12.04, are you planning to make offline bundles also for 10.04?

Last but not least: do the offline bundles for 12.04 work on 12.04.4 or only on 12.04.3 as the previous ones?

Unfortunately, we permanently broke support for 10.04.  I really tried not to do that, but some of the new stuff we made (including the universal builder that makes things much simpler to deploy on other Linux systems), requires a version of libc that is newer than 10.04.   The benefit here was that now we have a single deb package that works on all Ubuntu newer than 12.04 -- we used to have to have lots of different packages and individually verify which OSes it worked on.

For myself, I just keep an old version 0.91.2 on my online computer, and use that when I need to sign something with my offline computer.  It's certainly inconvenient, but at least the databases don't have to be rebuilt to switch, so it doesn't take that long.  I plan to eventually upgrade/switch my offline computer.  It may be inconvenient, but you can be sure that I myself and inconvenienced too!  Yet I still went through with it because of the simplicity and robustness added by making the associated change.

Thank you for your kind reply.

Are the 0.92.1 offline bundles working on 12.04.4 or are they working only on 12.04.3 as per previous versions of such bundles?

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July 30, 2014, 04:18:26 PM
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Unfortunately, we permanently broke support for 10.04.  I really tried not to do that, but some of the new stuff we made (including the universal builder that makes things much simpler to deploy on other Linux systems), requires a version of libc that is newer than 10.04.   The benefit here was that now we have a single deb package that works on all Ubuntu newer than 12.04 -- we used to have to have lots of different packages and individually verify which OSes it worked on.

For myself, I just keep an old version 0.91.2 on my online computer, and use that when I need to sign something with my offline computer.  It's certainly inconvenient, but at least the databases don't have to be rebuilt to switch, so it doesn't take that long.  I plan to eventually upgrade/switch my offline computer.  It may be inconvenient, but you can be sure that I myself and inconvenienced too!  Yet I still went through with it because of the simplicity and robustness added by making the associated change.

Thank you for your kind reply.

Are the 0.92.1 offline bundles working on 12.04.4 or are they working only on 12.04.3 as per previous versions of such bundles?

We didn't get around to upgrading the offline bundles.  I think you still need to use 12.04.3. 

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July 30, 2014, 04:22:37 PM
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Unfortunately, we permanently broke support for 10.04.  I really tried not to do that, but some of the new stuff we made (including the universal builder that makes things much simpler to deploy on other Linux systems), requires a version of libc that is newer than 10.04.   The benefit here was that now we have a single deb package that works on all Ubuntu newer than 12.04 -- we used to have to have lots of different packages and individually verify which OSes it worked on.

For myself, I just keep an old version 0.91.2 on my online computer, and use that when I need to sign something with my offline computer.  It's certainly inconvenient, but at least the databases don't have to be rebuilt to switch, so it doesn't take that long.  I plan to eventually upgrade/switch my offline computer.  It may be inconvenient, but you can be sure that I myself and inconvenienced too!  Yet I still went through with it because of the simplicity and robustness added by making the associated change.

Thank you for your kind reply.

Are the 0.92.1 offline bundles working on 12.04.4 or are they working only on 12.04.3 as per previous versions of such bundles?

We didn't get around to upgrading the offline bundles.  I think you still need to use 12.04.3.  

I'd recommend to state that clearly on the Armory offline bundle download section.

The default 12.04 version available for download on Ubuntu.com is 12.04.4, when the Armory offline bundle fails to compile people gets confused, it's pretty frustrating and the little info on the issue is buried in threads like this one.

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July 30, 2014, 04:23:57 PM
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Unfortunately, we permanently broke support for 10.04.  I really tried not to do that, but some of the new stuff we made (including the universal builder that makes things much simpler to deploy on other Linux systems), requires a version of libc that is newer than 10.04.   The benefit here was that now we have a single deb package that works on all Ubuntu newer than 12.04 -- we used to have to have lots of different packages and individually verify which OSes it worked on.

For myself, I just keep an old version 0.91.2 on my online computer, and use that when I need to sign something with my offline computer.  It's certainly inconvenient, but at least the databases don't have to be rebuilt to switch, so it doesn't take that long.  I plan to eventually upgrade/switch my offline computer.  It may be inconvenient, but you can be sure that I myself and inconvenienced too!  Yet I still went through with it because of the simplicity and robustness added by making the associated change.

Thank you for your kind reply.

Are the 0.92.1 offline bundles working on 12.04.4 or are they working only on 12.04.3 as per previous versions of such bundles?

We didn't get around to upgrading the offline bundles.  I think you still need to use 12.04.3. 

I'd recommend to state that clearly on the Armory offline bundle download section.

The default 12.04 version available for download on Ubuntu.com is 12.04.4, when the Armory offline bundle fails to compile people gets confused, it's pretty frustrating and the little info on the issue is buried in thread like this one.

It was stated on the download page.  With a direct link to the 12.04.3 download.  It might've gotten lost in the upgrade to 0.92.  I'll make sure it gets back in there.

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July 30, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
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I'd recommend to state that clearly on the Armory offline bundle download section.

The default 12.04 version available for download on Ubuntu.com is 12.04.4, when the Armory offline bundle fails to compile people gets confused, it's pretty frustrating and the little info on the issue is buried in thread like this one.

It was stated on the download page.  With a direct link to the 12.04.3 download.  It might've gotten lost in the upgrade to 0.92.  I'll make sure it gets back in there.

Well, now it's gone Wink

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July 30, 2014, 04:46:02 PM
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I am on Windows XP 32-bit and i run the version 0.91.2, i tried to download the version 0.92.1 by clicking on download from the client but a message popping up "There was a failure downloading this file : 0". What does it mean and what should i do?
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July 30, 2014, 04:57:47 PM
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I am on Windows XP 32-bit and i run the version 0.91.2, i tried to download the version 0.92.1 by clicking on download from the client but a message popping up "There was a failure downloading this file : 0". What does it mean and what should i do?

Good question!  Can you send us a log file?  You can do so through Help->Submit Bug Report (it will attach the file automatically).  Or go to bitcoinarmory.com/support and manually attach the file exported from Armory using File->Export Log File.

We'll check it out.

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I am on Windows XP 32-bit and i run the version 0.91.2, i tried to download the version 0.92.1 by clicking on download from the client but a message popping up "There was a failure downloading this file : 0". What does it mean and what should i do?

Good question!  Can you send us a log file?  You can do so through Help->Submit Bug Report (it will attach the file automatically).  Or go to bitcoinarmory.com/support and manually attach the file exported from Armory using File->Export Log File.

We'll check it out.
Ok i have just sent it. Unfortunately the version of my offline computer is only 0.88.1, what should i do to upgrade it? If i understand correctly i cannot use the secure downloader, so i should use an USB key to get the installer of the version 0.92.1 on my offline computer, correct? But what do i do then?

edit : ok now the upgrade is done, thanks for the help
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July 30, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
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Hey everyone. I noticed that the Armory changelog states that 0.92.1 "should" work with OS X 10.10. As things stand, this is true. I just ran the downloaded version of 0.92.1 on DP4 (i.e., the public beta). It ran very well. I'll continue to monitor as 10.10 draws closer to completion. Just wanted to clarify. Smiley

In addition, I've merged in the OS X notification code to the devel branch. (Note that this feature is not included in 0.92.1.) I've confirmed that it works on 10.8-10.10. It may need a bit of tweaking but the basics are fine. Other than BitTorrent blockchain bootstrapping (which is really a temporary band-aid), I think this basically puts the OS X version back at feature parity with Linux and Windows.

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I'd recommend to state that clearly on the Armory offline bundle download section.

The default 12.04 version available for download on Ubuntu.com is 12.04.4, when the Armory offline bundle fails to compile people gets confused, it's pretty frustrating and the little info on the issue is buried in thread like this one.

It was stated on the download page.  With a direct link to the 12.04.3 download.  It might've gotten lost in the upgrade to 0.92.  I'll make sure it gets back in there.

Well, now it's gone Wink

Will wallets generated on pre 0.92.1 offline and online versions continue to work?
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July 30, 2014, 11:04:10 PM
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Will wallets generated on pre 0.92.1 offline and online versions continue to work?

Yes, the wallets are the same, and you can use any wallet on any version of Armory.  It's simply the communication protocol between online and offline computers (for signing transactions) that has changed, meaning that if you upgrade your online computer to 0.92, you will need to upgrade the offline computer as well (or keep a copy of 0.91.2 around just for doing offline transactions)

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July 30, 2014, 11:07:48 PM
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I hope I never have to change my wallets, that would be catastrophic

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July 30, 2014, 11:11:54 PM
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I hope I never have to change my wallets, that would be catastrophic

We're working on a new wallet format (have been forever, but so many priorities have popped up since then).  After that release, new wallets will be BIP32 compatible, but will not work with older versions of Armory.  However, we plan to have a migrate feature to import the old wallet chains into the new wallet format so that you can continue to use old wallets with the new version.

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July 30, 2014, 11:19:29 PM
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I hope I never have to change my wallets, that would be catastrophic

We're working on a new wallet format (have been forever, but so many priorities have popped up since then).  After that release, new wallets will be BIP32 compatible, but will not work with older versions of Armory.  However, we plan to have a migrate feature to import the old wallet chains into the new wallet format so that you can continue to use old wallets with the new version.


But must we migrate? Redoing my backups will suck.

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