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July 17, 2016, 08:10:36 AM
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Guys,

Is dual mining SIA coins profitable?

how much would I get from SIA mining, if I am doing ETH+SIA dual mining on a 5 x 390 (150MHs)?

I am exclusively just using Claymore for ETH currently.

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Here is super calculator

https://www.whattomine.com/merged_coins/2-eth-sc

I switched to dual mining 2 days ago
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July 17, 2016, 09:17:20 AM
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Hi All,

I'm fairly new to GPU mining and have just got an RX480 and installed Claymores Dual Miner v5.1.   Eth is mining fine with no rejected blocks, but on Decred I'm getting about 10% rejected.  Is this normal?

Currently mining Eth at 23.1m/h and Decred at 349M/h,  Power consumption according to newest GPU-Z is between 89-92 watts.  Radeon software version is 16.7.1

The card is not overclocked and the only adjustments I have made are the  power target is now set to 83%, and a manual fan speed of 65%. 

I have found these values to keep the card within about 68-69 degrees temperature, and have had no loss of mining speed.  Below 83% mining speeds starts to decrease,  above 83% mining speeds are the same and Decred rejected blocks are still at 10%

If anyone can offer any insight/tips it would be appreciated.


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July 17, 2016, 10:26:25 AM
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I'm mining siacon on nanopool but my balance after 24h is still unconfirmed, do u know why ? there r any problem with this pool ?
Confirmations are block finds, not a time lasted. Current difficulty is a bit high comparing to the network hashrate. So it takes more then 24 hours to confirm. When there was no dual miner it was vice versa - confirmations took 15 hours, not 24 or more.

Due to a lot of people going to dual mining ETH+SIA the profit every day decreases. The more miners, the less profit. It is yet profitable, but not as much as was 10 days ago. And don't forget that it takes much more power that means increased electricity bills, higher power supply loads and higher temperatures.
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July 17, 2016, 11:47:03 AM
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I'm mining siacon on nanopool but my balance after 24h is still unconfirmed, do u know why ? there r any problem with this pool ?
Confirmations are block finds, not a time lasted. Current difficulty is a bit high comparing to the network hashrate. So it takes more then 24 hours to confirm. When there was no dual miner it was vice versa - confirmations took 15 hours, not 24 or more.

Due to a lot of people going to dual mining ETH+SIA the profit every day decreases. The more miners, the less profit. It is yet profitable, but not as much as was 10 days ago. And don't forget that it takes much more power that means increased electricity bills, higher power supply loads and higher temperatures.


This is great news for the coin SIA.

Yesterday there were 1200 miners doing SIA on nanopool.
That means the coins are spread over 1200 accounts, instead of everything going to the few previous miners.

I do understand teh suck for them .. who were used to beeing rewarded in tons and taking it all for themselves.

But the advantages here are bigger.
Bigger spread is smaller dumps too.
The big SIA bagholders are the ones who has mined for a long time when it was very lucrative.
Its also these holders that can do the big dumps crashing the price to bottom.

But the biggest plus for SIA is all the attention it gets.
How many new users know about SIA because of Claymore?

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July 17, 2016, 01:37:55 PM
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use -dcri 40 on the 390 you should get around 600 SIA. and no loss in etherum hashrate.

-dcri 64 works best on the Nanos 700-800MHASH SIA. and lo loss in etherum hashrate.


If i do dcri 40 i loose about 3 mh per rig so x 12 = 36 mhs of course i have not ran the calculations and it might be worth doing if there is no gain in wattage.  I need to bust out the kilo-watt meter and check i guess.

I run all 390 units 6 card rigs with dual 1300 watt ps.

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July 17, 2016, 01:50:43 PM
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You got some bug in showing GPU temp. It strange but only one rig has that issue. Actually there 4 GPU.

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July 17, 2016, 01:59:18 PM
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Guys,

Please add statistics data here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1550780.0

Everybody uses their own settings, tweaks etc - so please share it in separate topic.

That will really help us to understand the limits of GPUs and CDM.



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Last edit: July 17, 2016, 07:34:33 PM by scryptr
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HARD FORK TO RECOVER STOLEN DAO TOKENS--

Eth is part of the Ethereum project, and valuable because it is more than just a coin.  Someone hacked and hijacked DAO tokens, millions of dollars worth, also a part of the Ethereum project.  These cannot be cashed out for ETH until July 27.  The Hard Fork is specifically aimed at recapturing the DAO tokens, making them non-redeemable by the hackers.  For a better and more thorough explanation, read blog articles on the web.  

Pools , exchanges, and miners will need to update their wallets, but the hashing will continue with the same algorithm.   If you do not update your personal ETH wallet, it may not process the correct fork of the blockchain.  Pools need to update in order to stay on the correct fork.       --scryptr

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July 17, 2016, 07:31:43 PM
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Any EXP calculator ?
Is is worthing to mine EXP instead of ETH ?
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July 17, 2016, 07:39:31 PM
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Anybody dual mining switched or switching to SIA from DCR?

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July 17, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
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Any EXP calculator ?
Is is worthing to mine EXP instead of ETH ?


The last 14 hours EXP has been 3-10% more profitable than ETH.


https://www.whattomine.com/coins


EDIT:

Worth mentioning that one of the other ethashes has done a HUGE leap today.

KR - Krypton .. up 62.0% at the time im writing this.

SOIL has a low diff also now.

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July 17, 2016, 07:59:53 PM
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@frostminer

I also chek whattomine, but on this calculator http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_expanse , ETH seems more profitable.
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July 17, 2016, 08:07:54 PM
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@frostminer

I also chek whattomine, but on this calculator http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_expanse , ETH seems more profitable.

I noticed.
Im not sure what the reason is.
On whatomine all numbers are available.
Wolfchange uses $.. not sure what conversion rate/fees

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July 17, 2016, 08:11:15 PM
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Anybody dual mining switched or switching to SIA from DCR?

I did, switched all of mine to ETH+SC (5 5 390 rigs and 5 6 480 rigs). At 1100 core and 1250 mem, i am getting 155 MH/s ETH and 2333 MH/s SC. With -dcri 40, you get 3000 MH/s SC and 150 ETH but ETH hash fluctuates between 130-150 for some reason. It seems SC is more profitable than DCR, a good calculator is here https://www.whattomine.com/merged_coins/2-eth-sc .

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July 17, 2016, 08:55:38 PM
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@frostminer

I also chek whattomine, but on this calculator http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_expanse , ETH seems more profitable.

I noticed.
Im not sure what the reason is.
On whatomine all numbers are available.
Wolfchange uses $.. not sure what conversion rate/fees

EXP is still more profitable, but only for 24h averages. Current to current difficulty ETH is more profitable now. You can customize the sorting and which difficulty_span is chosen for revenue calcs.
If difficulty increase for EXP will reduce a bit to stay in line with % price increase then EXP should win the day (or price continues to raise without the raise of the difficulty)

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July 17, 2016, 09:11:43 PM
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Which is the best profittable pools for SIA ? Siamining or nanopool ?




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July 17, 2016, 09:24:01 PM
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HARD FORK TO RECOVER STOLEN DAO TOKENS--

Eth is part of the Ethereum project, and valuable because it is more than just a coin.  Someone hacked and hijacked DAO tokens, millions of dollars worth, also a part of the Ethereum project.  These cannot be cashed out for ETH until July 27.  The Hard Fork is specifically aimed at recapturing the DAO tokens, making them non-redeemable by the hackers.  For a better and more thorough explanation, read blog articles on the web.  

Pools , exchanges, and miners will need to update their wallets, but the hashing will continue with the same algorithm.   If you do not update your personal ETH wallet, it may not process the correct fork of the blockchain.  Pools need to update in order to stay on the correct fork.       --scryptr

Here you repeat that lie that mass media tell you that you believe.

Hack means illegal code change to get some advantage. But TheDAO was just one (but biggest) of many projects based on Ethereum. It used smart contracts written in a language that run them on Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) - that is, on all miners. The contract agreement tells you that "The contract code is law, and if there are different human interpretations, the code runs as it runs, and that is the final decision".

The guy or group called hacker is in reality a smart guy who studied the open source code of contract and took advantage of some "features" to get some ETH tokens from TheDAO account. From ethical point of view he was wrong. From law and technical point of view he did not hack or hijacked it. It was the LAME CONTRACT CODE written by TheDAO that allowed him to do so. And their own agreement tells that it was done in full accordance to the agreement - the code on EVM run exactly as written, and the code is law.

Please notice that TheDAO knew about this code vulnerability and in the beginning of June they wrote that "nothing bad can happen" and did nothing. It happened 10 days later. EVM run as programmed, the flaw was in TheDAO contract only.

Also notice that main TheDAO token holders are the same people as Ethereum Foundation creators or affiliated. So takes place the conflict of interests.

Finally, TheDAO was just one of investing projects, and every such project has risks. Sometimes they simply fail, and any investor should check and accept risks.

Now those people suggest to do a hard fork that means to take ETH from the DarkDAO account (where ETH was transferred to) and return them to original investors. From ethical point of view it seems to be ok. BUT from technical point of view such fork to FIX JUST ONE BIG PROJECT OF hundred other projects IN FAVOUR OF 3RD PARTY means BREAKING THE MAIN IDEA of Ethereum as a machine that runs code that cannot be arbitrary controlled by a 3rd party - people, groups, governments, etc.

If that was another smaller project - no one will break rules that blockchain is irreversible. But TheDAO is too big to fail, and Ethereum Foundation affiliated with TheDAO token holders. So they break own rules and actually KILL THE ETHEREUM by reverting the blockchain history. Saving one big project, they kill the Ethereum ecosystem.

Now they should make you believe that it is not an arbitrary change, but a network consensus. But please take a look how it was achieved. Take for example, the vote results of DwarfPool. They asked people do they support the fork or not. Then they will install or not the modified Ethereum code. But heh, here are the results: http://dwarfpool.com/eth/voting  They tell you that network decided to fork because 71.80% pro-fork, and 28.20% contra and install forked code. So it was a network decision. What they do not tell you that only 6% of people or 4.37% of hashrate voted at all. The rest basically ignored the voting and that should be treated like they do not want to change anything. Or, if you like it more, they do not know about voting. That is the trick to make you believe that forkers do the "right thing", while actually they do not. The good voting should be like on coinotron: they have two different ports, and no one of them should be the default port. So to mine there people MUST make a change and choose one of options, not be silent. In that case it will represent the network consensus.

TheDAO is just one of many projects based on Ethereum. The EVM worked exactly as it should. The Ethereum code has no flaws and worked as it should. TheDAO contract (badly written) worked exactly as it was written. So TheDAO requres fix, not Ethereum blockchain. And it is wrong to make Ethereum as NoTrustCoin just because one big project failed. The right thing is to accept losses, fix TheDAO and go ahead. And do not break Ethereum platform. But big money talk. And (my speculation) it is easy to pay something to maybe 10 pool operators covering 95% of market to make them install the fork.

Think: how big should be loss in another project to make fork for them? 1M? 10M? 1K? Or? Who should be project owners? What if some government will be interested to block some addresses? How long should be the black list of "undesirable" accounts? What if some "secret service" will be interested to fork it and/or block someone? Many questions. But definitely known that the Ethereum slogan on the 1st page of its site:

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Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.

after any fork to "fix the damage" will be wrong. The code of TheDAO contract run as programmed, but innocent Ethereum code and blockchain will be changed by 3rd party interference. And Ethereum will be NoTrustCoin.

Last note: assuming that TheDAO was most hyped project based on Ethereum, the ETH price maybe raised due to it. And is possible that after fork the same people getting ETH back to the failed investment project and breaking own contract agreement (code is law) will keep the price high. Maybe. But it will not be that Ethereum running unstoppable code. And I can predict a lot of similar projects that tell you explicitly that they will not censorship own blockchains in any way. And they win. Even now some ETH forks are more profitable - the fork is planned on 20th regardless of my or your opinion, and the future of Ethereum depends on the results.

PS. Sorry for offtopic, but it was a reply to question. I hate when some mass media "prepare" people for the move that some 3rd party players are interested in, but trying to make you believe that it is a network consensus when just 10 pools and few exchanges take decisions, in fact, any other miners accept what their favorite pools prepare for them (that's why no change in Claymore's miner). No one of Bitcoin specialist told anything good about the fork. And that's why Bitcoin is a trusted currency. Sad I can't say that about ETH after fork if it happens.
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July 17, 2016, 09:45:46 PM
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I also chek whattomine, but on this calculator http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_expanse , ETH seems more profitable.

I noticed.
Im not sure what the reason is.
On whatomine all numbers are available.
Wolfchange uses $.. not sure what conversion rate/fees

EXP is still more profitable, but only for 24h averages. Current to current difficulty ETH is more profitable now. You can customize the sorting and which difficulty_span is chosen for revenue calcs.
If difficulty increase for EXP will reduce a bit to stay in line with % price increase then EXP should win the day (or price continues to raise without the raise of the difficulty)


I think these smaller coins have a bigger chance of making random jackpots.
Like KR now, up 88%.
You wont see that happen to f.ex ETH.
But then again... it might also swing the other way.

I guess it depends on what "mode" u are mining in.
Some miners sell continuously, while some sit on the mined coins for jumps in price.
First group should go ETH, second group can gamble if they have the time and can afford it.

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I also chek whattomine, but on this calculator http://calc.wolfchange.com/mining_calculator_expanse , ETH seems more profitable.

I noticed.
Im not sure what the reason is.
On whatomine all numbers are available.
Wolfchange uses $.. not sure what conversion rate/fees

EXP is still more profitable, but only for 24h averages. Current to current difficulty ETH is more profitable now. You can customize the sorting and which difficulty_span is chosen for revenue calcs.
If difficulty increase for EXP will reduce a bit to stay in line with % price increase then EXP should win the day (or price continues to raise without the raise of the difficulty)

It also depends GREATLY on the cards you use. 280/290 get a big boost mining EXP. I get +5 MH on those mining EXP and I triple mine, SIA, and GRS at the same time.

The 380s I have don't get a speed boost so I leave them solo mining ETH all the time. I don't think the extra SIA boost on those is worth it. Just makes them hotter.

Just my 2 gas.

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It also depends GREATLY on the cards you use. 280/290 get a big boost mining EXP. I get +5 MH on those mining EXP and I triple mine, SIA, and GRS at the same time.

The 380s I have don't get a speed boost so I leave them solo mining ETH all the time. I don't think the extra SIA boost on those is worth it. Just makes them hotter.

Just my 2 gas.

You launch groestl miner on top of Claymore mining ETH+SIA? Give us some numbers Cheesy
BTW great idea to switch 280/290 to ETH forks with smaller DAG size.

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