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Author Topic: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux)  (Read 6589779 times)
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June 30, 2016, 08:25:14 AM
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Got it working!!  Had to uninstall the drivers and reinstall.  Each card is doing between 24-25 Mh.  All I need in one more PCI extender cable and all 4 cards will be installed!!

Got my 480 this morning.

after 2 hours attempting to install Crimson 16.6.2 ... I can't get it to work on W8.1

what Crimson version did you use?



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June 30, 2016, 09:11:01 AM
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can this miner shutdown the computer if one of the GPU's temperature hits a preset limit?  

Or disable mining on the hot gpu and keep mining on the healthy ones?


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June 30, 2016, 09:17:51 AM
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Once the AIB partners come out with their own PCB design with possibly 2 6pin or 1 8pin connector, the PCie power issue should go away. That would also allow the card to be overclocked closer to the 1500mhz mark, which in theory should push up the hashrate, making this a decent mining card.

Of course, those running 390s or 390xs shouldn't feel inclined to buy the RX 480s.

If the RX 470s clock 2-3 below the 480, that could be the better card for mining with a 110W TDP.

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June 30, 2016, 09:18:19 AM
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can this miner shutdown the computer if one of the GPU's temperature hits a preset limit?  

Or disable mining on the hot gpu and keep mining on the healthy ones?


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-tstop   set stop GPU temperature, miner will stop mining if GPU reaches specified temperature. For example, "-tstop 95" means 95C temperature. You can also specify values for every card, for example "-tstop 95,85,90".
   This feature is disabled by default ("-tstop 0"). You also should specify non-zero value for "-tt" option to enable this option.
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June 30, 2016, 09:24:22 AM
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Once the AIB partners come out with their own PCB design with possibly 2 6pin or 1 8pin connector, the PCie power issue should go away. That would also allow the card to be overclocked closer to the 1500mhz mark, which in theory should push up the hashrate, making this a decent mining card.

Of course, those running 390s or 390xs shouldn't feel inclined to buy the RX 480s.

If the RX 470s clock 2-3 below the 480, that could be the better card for mining with a 110W TDP.

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From what I can see, the 480 is able to provide almost the same hashrate at half the power?
I think they should update asap Tongue

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June 30, 2016, 09:35:34 AM
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can this miner shutdown the computer if one of the GPU's temperature hits a preset limit?  

Or disable mining on the hot gpu and keep mining on the healthy ones?


thx
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-tstop   set stop GPU temperature, miner will stop mining if GPU reaches specified temperature. For example, "-tstop 95" means 95C temperature. You can also specify values for every card, for example "-tstop 95,85,90".
   This feature is disabled by default ("-tstop 0"). You also should specify non-zero value for "-tt" option to enable this option.

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June 30, 2016, 09:45:21 AM
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Another question.

Is this miner ethereum specific?  from what I'm reading,  some ethash miners are capable of mining any ethash coin
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June 30, 2016, 10:05:20 AM
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Once the AIB partners come out with their own PCB design with possibly 2 6pin or 1 8pin connector, the PCie power issue should go away. That would also allow the card to be overclocked closer to the 1500mhz mark, which in theory should push up the hashrate, making this a decent mining card.

Of course, those running 390s or 390xs shouldn't feel inclined to buy the RX 480s.

If the RX 470s clock 2-3 below the 480, that could be the better card for mining with a 110W TDP.

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From what I can see, the 480 is able to provide almost the same hashrate at half the power?
I think they should update asap Tongue

Compared to 380x, it might use 70% of the power and provide the same hash at the same memory frequency.
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June 30, 2016, 10:10:42 AM
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Another question.

Is this miner ethereum specific?  from what I'm reading,  some ethash miners are capable of mining any ethash coin

Every page someone including me asks people to read the 1st message IN FULL, because almost any question is already answered in the manual. Here is the answer to your question from the page 1, message 1:

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- Supports Ethereum forks (Expanse, etc).
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-allcoins Specify "-allcoins 1" to be able to mine Ethereum forks
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June 30, 2016, 10:13:55 AM
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6 gpus should only use 1000 watts. You can't be paying $1/kwh.

Really? :-)

From specs, 390X can use up to 375W (75 from PCI-e, 150*2 from two 8-pin connectors). In reality well-loaded they can draw even more. 375*6 = 2250W + MB (let say, 150). So 2.4kW*24*30=1728kW per month.

For reference, my 390X*5 diskless rig draws around 2030-2100W from the outlet mining both ETH+DCR at 16/47 intensity.
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June 30, 2016, 10:26:23 AM
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Got it working!!  Had to uninstall the drivers and reinstall.  Each card is doing between 24-25 Mh.  All I need in one more PCI extender cable and all 4 cards will be installed!!

Got my 480 this morning.

after 2 hours attempting to install Crimson 16.6.2 ... I can't get it to work on W8.1

what Crimson version did you use?




16.6.2 I just installed the drivers, If it tried to install everything it would hang at 59%.

I did notice my system had an "unexpected error" error in the middle of the night and rebooted.  I'm wondering if I need to get powered risers.

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June 30, 2016, 11:26:59 AM
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With difficulty of Ethereum jumping by 35% in 3/4 weeks

Do you reckon ASIC mining hardware is shipping amongst insiders?

From Dash coin, engineers where making small batches of ASIC X11 miners, long before commercial products became available to the community in April this year!

I heard the cost of ASIC miner will be high due to the big DAG file size. So Ethereum will be ASIC resistant.

Every 4 weeks, 12THS is added too difficulty, which is starting to look like small scale ASIC Hardware production is going on unofficially (in secret).

This is what always happens with ASIC Hardware. Some engineers get together with some miners and produce private ASIC hardware.

They then pre-mine a tonne of coins, dump the coins mined with this private ASIC hardware to finance the manufacture of a commercial ASIC hardware.

I'm just posting, because some people may have been thinking of more GPU's and they would never get a ROI.

Well to be fair. Think of an Amazon ec2 data center with all those gpu doing nothing.  What better then to just let them all mine if not being used by a customer.  Then if they swap out to 16 nm cards they will save a ton in power to boot.  I'm sure someone like Amazon would get the new cards first.  Just a thought.  But yea asics maybe expensive to build but that doesn't mean they wouldn't be profitable.  Ethereum may have talked about asics being not cost effective to build when price was much lower but now just like btc it's in a range where it's profitable to build asic. I'd be very careful right now with a doubling of efficiency. Looking at eBay an awful lot of cards coming up for sale.

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June 30, 2016, 11:33:48 AM
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What is the point of going to the trouble of developing an asic for a coin that has a short term pow, keep in mind the pow in question is prohibitive to asics due to the memory requirements. Still i guess we should keep an open mind if the tin foil hats allow it...
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June 30, 2016, 11:37:43 AM
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What is the point of going to the trouble of developing an asic for a coin that has a short term pow, keep in mind the pow in question is prohibitive to asics due to the memory requirements. Still i guess we should keep an open mind if the tin foil hats allow it...

Well I guess you be right if ethereum was only dagger hashimoto coin but it's not and the other coins don't talk of pos.

Edit. And besides I don't see ethereum going to pos in the next year or even two.  That is if it survives which I feel it will even with all the drama:)

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June 30, 2016, 11:55:19 AM
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OK, I can tell you don't understand the R&D process.

Essentially, engineers look at GPU, with best performance and put together a cheaper (ASIC) prototype, but these have to be produced in batches of 500-1,000.

These prototype batches, strip the extra GPU functions not necessary to hashing the algorithm.

The engineers keep repeating this process with each batch of prototypes.

This process is done in secret and is self-financing so long as news never gets out that this is being done, because the prototype batches produce Alt Coins, which can be sold for BTC and converted into cash to pay for the next generation of prototypes.

What the engineers are hoping for is some kind of breakthrough, in this process, which produces chip design that makes vastly more hash output per a unit of electricity.

On Dash, X11 prototype batches where being produced 6 months, before the engineers made the breakthrough.

The situation on Ethereum is slightly different, the prototype batches have become highly lucrative with Ethereum prices about 0.014BTC to 0.028BTC.

So, those engineers who are working on Dagger algorithm are simply chucking out bigger and bigger batches of the prototypes Wink
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OK, I can tell you don't understand the R&D process.

Essentially, engineers look at GPU, with best performance and put together a cheaper (ASIC) prototype, but these have to be produced in batches of 500-1,000.

These prototype batches, strip the extra GPU functions not necessary to hashing the algorithm.

The engineers keep repeating this process with each batch of prototypes.

This process is done in secret and is self-financing so long as news never gets out that this is being done, because the prototype batches produce Alt Coins, which can be sold for BTC and converted into cash to pay for the next generation of prototypes.

What the engineers are hoping for is some kind of breakthrough, in this process, which produces chip design that makes vastly more hash output per a unit of electricity.

On Dash, X11 prototype batches where being produced 6 months, before the engineers made the breakthrough.

The situation on Ethereum is slightly different, the prototype batches have become highly lucrative with Ethereum prices about 0.014BTC to 0.028BTC.

So, those engineers who are working on Dagger algorithm are simply chucking out bigger and bigger batches of the prototypes Wink

Thanks for this info.  I knew it went something like this to a degree.  The costs aren't really that much when r&d is financed thru dumping off of the mined coins.  Just have to have the money to get the ball rolling.  


This is way to steady of a climb to be just gpu i think.  https://etherscan.io/charts/difficulty  one can almost see each batch as they come online.  when over 300k 390x come online in less than a month i mean come on lets use some common sense here.  ONe thing ive learned is not to be naive in crypto . Anything that can will happen  Grin

Edit i hope i did the math right.  Thats 10 th/s divided by one r9390 @ 30 mh/s each??  correct me if im wrong


i was corrected:)

Also to add to the conspiracy:)  check out f2pool who shot up to over 700 gh/s in no time flat!.. funny i think how all sudden china got on board with mining eth.. Pools that only mine btc etc  hmmmmm


Edit and one more thing.. Looking at the diff chart it fits your timeline quite nicely of 6 months to develop. lol  to a T i might add!
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June 30, 2016, 12:54:19 PM
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This site gives raw difficulty and misrepresents it as TH. (In fact its just Tera of unnamed unit)

The real hashrate hovers around 4TH currently.
3,9-4,2 TH to be exact. (Keep in mind there is no way to tell what amount of hashrate is currently targeted onto a chain - we can only take past block times and estimate)

https://whattomine.com - Check what to mine Smiley
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This site gives raw difficulty and misrepresents it as TH. (In fact its just Tera of unnamed unit)

The real hashrate hovers around 4TH currently.
3,9-4,2 TH to be exact. (Keep in mind there is no way to tell what amount of hashrate is currently targeted onto a chain - we can only take past block times and estimate)

Ohh s$%t.. i see that on coinwarz now.. Ehhh i hate that s#$t.. Thanks for steering me in the right direction.  Looks like i looked up diff not hashrate in my haste.  Here was the proper link.  My bad.  https://etherscan.io/charts/hashrate

i have to say tho.. in a months time over 30,000 390x were added to the network.. that isnt something to sneeze at.  To think with all the issues we still have that much being added on .  WOW

Honestly i havent been paying much attention to it lately.  That struck me as an awful big increase.   That puts it back to being feasible that its only gpu mining atm.  We should see a nice bump with the new efficient cards except that if you only replace them one to one with anything above a 280x its prolly going to drop your hash a bit by the looks of the first test results.  Im sure a lot of driver releases will come and claymore will possibly find ways to improve mining on these 480's.  Im looking forward to the next release.  CDMV5.. May actually try out the dual mining for once.  Sorry for all the OT claymore.  I can go on some tangents now and again.  Need to keep that in check a bit more

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June 30, 2016, 01:35:06 PM
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Hello Claymore, what about decred on nicehash?

Going to add it in next update.

Thank you. Grin Grin
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June 30, 2016, 01:57:56 PM
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v4.7:

- improved stability of Linux version.
- fixed issue with possible crash if pool sends several jobs at once.
- added "-li" option.
- bug fixes.
- EthMan: added more options for sound notification.
- EthMan: added option to adjust hashrate warning threshold.


Also I'm working on v5 with some new coin for dual mining.

1. support decred on nicehash.
2. support lyra2rev2 algo.
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