Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux)

[adaseb]

It also depends GREATLY on the cards you use. 280/290 get a big boost mining EXP. I get +5 MH on those mining EXP and I triple mine, SIA, and GRS at the same time.

The 380s I have don't get a speed boost so I leave them solo mining ETH all the time. I don't think the extra SIA boost on those is worth it. Just makes them hotter.

Just my 2 gas.

You launch groestl miner on top of Claymore mining ETH+SIA? Give us some numbers
BTW great idea to switch 280/290 to ETH forks with smaller DAG size.

You can't launch miners on top of each other. Your speeds will be linearly decreased/increased.

Needs to be coded properly like Claymore did with DCR and SIA.

[adaseb]

It also depends GREATLY on the cards you use. 280/290 get a big boost mining EXP. I get +5 MH on those mining EXP and I triple mine, SIA, and GRS at the same time.

The 380s I have don't get a speed boost so I leave them solo mining ETH all the time. I don't think the extra SIA boost on those is worth it. Just makes them hotter.

Just my 2 gas.

You launch groestl miner on top of Claymore mining ETH+SIA? Give us some numbers
BTW great idea to switch 280/290 to ETH forks with smaller DAG size.

290 aren't affected by DAG size, only 7950/7970/280x And Pitcairn like 7850/7870/270/370

[fittsy]

It also depends GREATLY on the cards you use. 280/290 get a big boost mining EXP. I get +5 MH on those mining EXP and I triple mine, SIA, and GRS at the same time.

The 380s I have don't get a speed boost so I leave them solo mining ETH all the time. I don't think the extra SIA boost on those is worth it. Just makes them hotter.

Just my 2 gas.

You launch groestl miner on top of Claymore mining ETH+SIA? Give us some numbers
BTW great idea to switch 280/290 to ETH forks with smaller DAG size.

You can't launch miners on top of each other. Your speeds will be linearly decreased/increased.

Needs to be coded properly like Claymore did with DCR and SIA.

Yes they have to be coded right. It took me a lot of tries to find the right combination of miners. Even within one coin you have to try to find the right miner.  Different miners mining the same coin can cause problems. I tried a bunch.

Also my dual core dedicated mining boxes can't handle it. An i7 that was built to do a lot more than just mine can handle the triple mining just fine.

[martinski]

hi, can somebody drop an actual bat. file for SIACOIN at Suprnova , siamining or any SIA pool. I have hard time macking one from Claymore's READ me text, i'm a bit NEW to mining. Thank you!

[fredeq]

It also depends GREATLY on the cards you use. 280/290 get a big boost mining EXP. I get +5 MH on those mining EXP and I triple mine, SIA, and GRS at the same time.

The 380s I have don't get a speed boost so I leave them solo mining ETH all the time. I don't think the extra SIA boost on those is worth it. Just makes them hotter.

Just my 2 gas.

You launch groestl miner on top of Claymore mining ETH+SIA? Give us some numbers
BTW great idea to switch 280/290 to ETH forks with smaller DAG size.

You can't launch miners on top of each other. Your speeds will be linearly decreased/increased.

Needs to be coded properly like Claymore did with DCR and SIA.

Yes they have to be coded right. It took me a lot of tries to find the right combination of miners. Even within one coin you have to try to find the right miner.  Different miners mining the same coin can cause problems. I tried a bunch.

Also my dual core dedicated mining boxes can't handle it. An i7 that was built to do a lot more than just mine can handle the triple mining just fine.

"GRS 57.64 MH" - Thats not for a single 280x card, right? Afaik 280x mining solo GRS does about 24Mh/s

[fittsy]

"GRS 57.64 MH" - Thats not for a single 280x card, right? Afaik 280x mining solo GRS does about 24Mh/s

You need to read all the notes. That is CPU Mining GRS + GPU mining EXP/SIA.

EDIT:
Here's a youtube video:
https://youtu.be/lZP0ZTZubTI

About 1:40 of mining so you can see them both miners running. Claymore for dual mining GPU and cpuminer-opt for CPU mining.

[fredeq]

"GRS 57.64 MH" - Thats not for a single 280x card, right? Afaik 280x mining solo GRS does about 24Mh/s

You need to read all the notes. That is CPU Mining GRS + GPU mining EXP/SIA.

EDIT:
Here's a youtube video:
https://youtu.be/lZP0ZTZubTI

About 1:40 of mining so you can see them both miners running. Claymore for dual mining GPU and cpuminer-opt for CPU mining.

I have read them all, now its more clear that you mine GRS on CPU only.

Btw your GRS speed is 1Mh/s, not 57.64.
Not sure what the other reading is... Maybe total hashes calculated so far since last share?

[fittsy]

"GRS 57.64 MH" - Thats not for a single 280x card, right? Afaik 280x mining solo GRS does about 24Mh/s

You need to read all the notes. That is CPU Mining GRS + GPU mining EXP/SIA.

EDIT:
Here's a youtube video:
https://youtu.be/lZP0ZTZubTI

About 1:40 of mining so you can see them both miners running. Claymore for dual mining GPU and cpuminer-opt for CPU mining.

I have read them all, now its more clear that you mine GRS on CPU only.

Btw your GRS speed is 1Mh/s, not 57.64.
Not sure what the other reading is... Maybe total hashes calculated so far since last share?

Cool. I wasn't sure either. It's harder to read that miner's output than Claymore's. Unfortunately I haven't had any luck yet with Claymore's CPU miner. Yes he has one.

[scryptr]

HARD FORK TO RECOVER STOLEN DAO TOKENS--

Eth is part of the Ethereum project, and valuable because it is more than just a coin.  Someone hacked and hijacked DAO tokens, millions of dollars worth, also a part of the Ethereum project.  These cannot be cashed out for ETH until July 27.  The Hard Fork is specifically aimed at recapturing the DAO tokens, making them non-redeemable by the hackers.  For a better and more thorough explanation, read blog articles on the web.  

Pools , exchanges, and miners will need to update their wallets, but the hashing will continue with the same algorithm.   If you do not update your personal ETH wallet, it may not process the correct fork of the blockchain.  Pools need to update in order to stay on the correct fork.       --scryptr

Here you repeat that lie that mass media tell you that you believe.

Hack means illegal code change to get some advantage. But TheDAO was just one (but biggest) of many projects based on Ethereum. It used smart contracts written in a language that run them on Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) - that is, on all miners. The contract agreement tells you that "The contract code is law, and if there are different human interpretations, the code runs as it runs, and that is the final decision".

The guy or group called hacker is in reality a smart guy who studied the open source code of contract and took advantage of some "features" to get some ETH tokens from TheDAO account. From ethical point of view he was wrong. From law and technical point of view he did not hack or hijacked it. It was the LAME CONTRACT CODE written by TheDAO that allowed him to do so. And their own agreement tells that it was done in full accordance to the agreement - the code on EVM run exactly as written, and the code is law.

Please notice that TheDAO knew about this code vulnerability and in the beginning of June they wrote that "nothing bad can happen" and did nothing. It happened 10 days later. EVM run as programmed, the flaw was in TheDAO contract only.

Also notice that main TheDAO token holders are the same people as Ethereum Foundation creators or affiliated. So takes place the conflict of interests.

Finally, TheDAO was just one of investing projects, and every such project has risks. Sometimes they simply fail, and any investor should check and accept risks.

Now those people suggest to do a hard fork that means to take ETH from the DarkDAO account (where ETH was transferred to) and return them to original investors. From ethical point of view it seems to be ok. BUT from technical point of view such fork to FIX JUST ONE BIG PROJECT OF hundred other projects IN FAVOUR OF 3RD PARTY means BREAKING THE MAIN IDEA of Ethereum as a machine that runs code that cannot be arbitrary controlled by a 3rd party - people, groups, governments, etc.

If that was another smaller project - no one will break rules that blockchain is irreversible. But TheDAO is too big to fail, and Ethereum Foundation affiliated with TheDAO token holders. So they break own rules and actually KILL THE ETHEREUM by reverting the blockchain history. Saving one big project, they kill the Ethereum ecosystem.

Now they should make you believe that it is not an arbitrary change, but a network consensus. But please take a look how it was achieved. Take for example, the vote results of DwarfPool. They asked people do they support the fork or not. Then they will install or not the modified Ethereum code. But heh, here are the results: http://dwarfpool.com/eth/voting  They tell you that network decided to fork because 71.80% pro-fork, and 28.20% contra and install forked code. So it was a network decision. What they do not tell you that only 6% of people or 4.37% of hashrate voted at all. The rest basically ignored the voting and that should be treated like they do not want to change anything. Or, if you like it more, they do not know about voting. That is the trick to make you believe that forkers do the "right thing", while actually they do not. The good voting should be like on coinotron: they have two different ports, and no one of them should be the default port. So to mine there people MUST make a change and choose one of options, not be silent. In that case it will represent the network consensus.

TheDAO is just one of many projects based on Ethereum. The EVM worked exactly as it should. The Ethereum code has no flaws and worked as it should. TheDAO contract (badly written) worked exactly as it was written. So TheDAO requres fix, not Ethereum blockchain. And it is wrong to make Ethereum as NoTrustCoin just because one big project failed. The right thing is to accept losses, fix TheDAO and go ahead. And do not break Ethereum platform. But big money talk. And (my speculation) it is easy to pay something to maybe 10 pool operators covering 95% of market to make them install the fork.

Think: how big should be loss in another project to make fork for them? 1M? 10M? 1K? Or? Who should be project owners? What if some government will be interested to block some addresses? How long should be the black list of "undesirable" accounts? What if some "secret service" will be interested to fork it and/or block someone? Many questions. But definitely known that the Ethereum slogan on the 1st page of its site:

Build unstoppable applications
Ethereum is a decentralized platform that runs smart contracts: applications that run exactly as programmed without any possibility of downtime, censorship, fraud or third party interference.

after any fork to "fix the damage" will be wrong. The code of TheDAO contract run as programmed, but innocent Ethereum code and blockchain will be changed by 3rd party interference. And Ethereum will be NoTrustCoin.

Last note: assuming that TheDAO was most hyped project based on Ethereum, the ETH price maybe raised due to it. And is possible that after fork the same people getting ETH back to the failed investment project and breaking own contract agreement (code is law) will keep the price high. Maybe. But it will not be that Ethereum running unstoppable code. And I can predict a lot of similar projects that tell you explicitly that they will not censorship own blockchains in any way. And they win. Even now some ETH forks are more profitable - the fork is planned on 20th regardless of my or your opinion, and the future of Ethereum depends on the results.

PS. Sorry for offtopic, but it was a reply to question. I hate when some mass media "prepare" people for the move that some 3rd party players are interested in, but trying to make you believe that it is a network consensus when just 10 pools and few exchanges take decisions, in fact, any other miners accept what their favorite pools prepare for them (that's why no change in Claymore's miner). No one of Bitcoin specialist told anything good about the fork. And that's why Bitcoin is a trusted currency. Sad I can't say that about ETH after fork if it happens.

THE QUESTION I ANSWERED SPECIFIED A SIMPLE ANSWER--

You cut that part out.  The answer I gave was simple, and not a long-winded poorly referenced editorial piece.  I answered a question about whether a new Claymore version would be required after the fork.  New wallets will be required, not a new miner.   If I am wrong about that, Claymore can correct me.    

 --scryptr

[hawkfish007]

hi, can somebody drop an actual bat. file for SIACOIN at Suprnova , siamining or any SIA pool. I have hard time macking one from Claymore's READ me text, i'm a bit NEW to mining. Thank you!

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us2.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0xD69af2A796A737A103F12d2f0BCC563a13900E6F.YourWorkerName -epsw x -dpool "http://siamining.com:9980/miner/header?address=YourSiaAddress&worker=YourWorkerName" -dcoin sia

Replace underlined texts with your wallet addresses and worker name.

[osnwt]

HE QUESTION I ANSWERED SPECIFIED A SIMPLE ANSWER--

You cut that part out.  The answer I gave was simple, and not a long-winded poorly referenced editorial piece.  I answered a question about whether a new Claymore version would be required after the fork.  New wallets will be required, not a new miner.   If I am wrong about that, Claymore can correct me.

Your answer regarding new miner was correct. But your statement that it was a hack, and ETH was stolen was NOT. In fact it was non-ethical use of the contract code as it was written by TheDAO, used in accordance with contract agreement that explicitly stated that the code is law (unlike bank service contracts etc that do not contain such statement and cannot be used as precedents).

So I quoted only related part of your message I disagreed (overquoting is a bad habit) and explained what was wrong with that part of the message, and why any Ethereum fork is a very bad thing since it makes a precedent that irreversible blockchain may be reversed if "necessary", even if it does not contain bugs in Ethereum platform. There were no any references in the reply because anyone interested can find them, and all I wrote were my personal thoughts and words. If your answer contained a quote from some other source, then a reference to that source should be nice to have as well. In that case there will be no questions to you, but to the author of that incorrect statement.

And that all was written by me because a lot, if not most, of pool miners use Claymore's one. If they believe that something really depends on their choice (to fork or not to fork), they at least should know what has really happened and make a right choice voting. Your statement gives no such knowledge, but tells without references that TheDAO was hacked (wrong - no code changes), ETH was stolen (wrong - use of contract code by one of many TheDAO token holders - means investors) by hackers (wrong - was no hack). And, BTW, TheDAO is NOT a part of Ethereum project, it is just one of thousand of projects based on Ethereum platform, just biggest one where curators happened to be Ethereum founders. But it seems that there is no any real choice if you are a pool miner (I explained why). So I personally switched to Ethereum fork due to all that mess.

[Marvell1]

HE QUESTION I ANSWERED SPECIFIED A SIMPLE ANSWER--

You cut that part out.  The answer I gave was simple, and not a long-winded poorly referenced editorial piece.  I answered a question about whether a new Claymore version would be required after the fork.  New wallets will be required, not a new miner.   If I am wrong about that, Claymore can correct me.

Your answer regarding new miner was correct. But your statement that it was a hack, and ETH was stolen was NOT. In fact it was non-ethical use of the contract code as it was written by TheDAO, used in accordance with contract agreement that explicitly stated that the code is law (unlike bank service contracts etc that do not contain such statement and cannot be used as precedents).

So I quoted only related part of your message I disagreed (overquoting is a bad habit) and explained what was wrong with that part of the message, and why any Ethereum fork is a very bad thing since it makes a precedent that irreversible blockchain may be reversed if "necessary", even if it does not contain bugs in Ethereum platform. There were no any references in the reply because anyone interested can find them, and all I wrote were my personal thoughts and words. If your answer contained a quote from some other source, then a reference to that source should be nice to have as well. In that case there will be no questions to you, but to the author of that incorrect statement.

And that all was written by me because a lot, if not most, of pool miners use Claymore's one. If they believe that something really depends on their choice (to fork or not to fork), they at least should know what has really happened and make a right choice voting. Your statement gives no such knowledge, but tells without references that TheDAO was hacked (wrong - no code changes), ETH was stolen (wrong - use of contract code by one of many TheDAO token holders - means investors) by hackers (wrong - was no hack). And, BTW, TheDAO is NOT a part of Ethereum project, it is just one of thousand of projects based on Ethereum platform, just biggest one where curators happened to be Ethereum founders. But it seems that there is no any real choice if you are a pool miner (I explained why). So I personally switched to Ethereum fork due to all that mess.

your soapbox aside either way the hacker did something that was not in the spirit of the dao code he/she expolited a vunrebilty its like if you leave your window open even though you were warrned that you might get robbed yeah its your fault to a point but you cant tell me if you get robbed and the thief gets caught he would be immune from pro eaution and allowed to keep what he stole.

that in effect is what the anti forkers are proposing : to let the person who came though an open window and stole DAO tokens ( that did not belong to him) to be allowed to keep them.  If they allowed this it would be the end of etherum and they know it.

personally i say fux the hacker he probably made millions shorting the market anyways he cant be alowed to profit further.

[alesx.onfire]

i was getting more than 10% hw with 4.5

[asbator]

Could future Claymore's release improve Ethereum mining on nvidia cards or it is the matter of hardware in-capabilities?
I'm going to buy some cards and it seems to me that except for mining Ethereum currently GTX 1070 is better buy than AMD 480.
I can't find any info about Serenity timeline, too. Half year? Year?

[Jacques21]

Could future Claymore's release improve Ethereum mining on nvidia cards or it is the matter of hardware in-capabilities?
I'm going to buy some cards and it seems to me that except for mining Ethereum currently GTX 1070 is better buy than AMD 480.
I can't find any info about Serenity timeline, too. Half year? Year?

The 1070 is way too expensive compared to the 480. But i will wait for the better cooled 480s before buying any.

[spyshagg]

Wanting lower temps is fine.  But unlike Nvidia reference cards, AMD reference cards tend to be built like a tank. Very overbuilt. Top quality power delivery system etc.

When going for partner cards, i would investigate properly their PCB.


I only want amd reference blower cards for mining 24/7

[frostminer]

Could future Claymore's release improve Ethereum mining on nvidia cards or it is the matter of hardware in-capabilities?
I'm going to buy some cards and it seems to me that except for mining Ethereum currently GTX 1070 is better buy than AMD 480.
I can't find any info about Serenity timeline, too. Half year? Year?

The 1070 is way too expensive compared to the 480. But i will wait for the better cooled 480s before buying any.

He seemed to be bound by contract not to make nvidia miner, or something.
Which expired soon.. so he said there will be a nvidia miner too. Soon

[asbator]

The 1070 is way too expensive compared to the 480. But i will wait for the better cooled 480s before buying any.

According to:
http://cryptomining-blog.com/8054-performance-of-the-amd-radeon-rx-480-for-other-algorithms/#comment-4340

GTX 1070 has more than x2 more firepower than AMD 480, while it cost less than 2x more.
Keccak 660 vs 250
Lyra2v2 35 vs 8
Nist 40 vs 18
Qbit 21 vs 10
That's all with same TDP.

Ethereum is the only algorithm that Radeon 480 mines as fast as GTX 1070.

So is it really over for mining with AMD, or maybe i'm missing something like bad AMD drivers etc. ??
I'm not good with hardware specifications, just trying to read numbers.

[sp_]

Of all the algos you listed, only etherum is profitable.. Doesn't matter if the 1070 is faster in the algos that give 0 profit.

[asbator]

Of all the algos you listed, only etherum is profitable... Doesn't matter if the 1070 is faster in the algos that give 0 profit.

On Nicehash Lyra2v2 is payed more less same as Ethereum per Megahash*Day. So GTX 1070 with it's 35 Mhash Lyra2v2 power can earn more than AMD 480 with 25MHash Eth power. Keccak, Qbit and Quark are close, too.

My question is that although 480 is better in mining Ethereum, after Serenity (half year, year?), GTX 1070 will be far superior card for next years?

And why GTX 1070/1080 does so poorly in mining Ethereum, comparing to other coins?